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SEVENPOINT
October 1, 2005, 06:19 PM
I went to the store today and snagged some reloading supplies. 1k federal "gold medal" match large pistol primers, some Winchester .45 auto cases, and some bullseye powder. Are there any loads that cater to these specific brands? Any help would be appreciated.

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lee n. field
October 1, 2005, 07:09 PM
Got any particular bullet in mind?

Smokey Joe
October 1, 2005, 07:42 PM
Sevenpoint--Bullseye works with every .45ACP bullet in Lyman's Cast Bullet Handbook; the same in Lyman's 48th ed. Reloading Handbook. In some instances it is listed as the most accurate of the powders tested for that particular load and bullet.

Do you not have a reloading manual? (Preferably more than one; cross-referencing is always good!) If not may I humbly but earnestly suggest that you get one or more.

IMHO, there is nothing to beat having the recipie in front of you in black and white, published by one of the major manufacturers, to check and re-check as you go about setting up your loading.

Forgive me, fellow THR'ers, but anybody can post anything on the internet, and that doesn't prove it is tested or safe.

Call me an old mother hen if you will, but I have never Ka-Boomed a gun, and intend to keep it that way. Doing so tends to ruin the entire afternoon.

The Bushmaster
October 1, 2005, 08:31 PM
Pornstar? O K (chuckle ;) ) I assume that you have a loading manual. Bullseye is a very versitile powder. I think it can be loaded into most any calibre. Check your load manual and have a ball... :)The Lyman #48 that Smokey Joe mentioned is a very good start to an extensive library.... :scrutiny:

HSMITH
October 2, 2005, 10:43 AM
If you are looking for extreme accuracy the Hornady XTP bullets have been really good for me.

SEVENPOINT
October 2, 2005, 01:05 PM
Thanks for the replies guys. The only manuals I have are the ones that came with the reloading kit I bought. I guess I need to pick one up. Better safe than sorry right? Thanks again.

JoeG52
October 2, 2005, 02:01 PM
The 2005 Alliant reloading guide is here.

http://glarp.atk.com/2005Catalogs/pdfs/Alliant_Powder-reload-guide_2005_catalog.pdf

Bullseye data for the 45 starts on page 44.

JDGray
October 3, 2005, 12:03 PM
Rainier bullets are very accurate and affordable 230 rn $29.99/500 JDGray

rborensr
October 3, 2005, 12:31 PM
Smokey Joe, I aggree with ya 100%.

LHB1
October 3, 2005, 04:02 PM
I would strongly recommend buying/reading a loading manual and choosing your load BEFORE buying components. Some stores will not exchange reloading components.

Good shooting and be safe.
LB

ClarkEMyers
October 3, 2005, 05:46 PM
I've found the H&G/Saeco 130 in front of 3.5 BE to work any case and primer but I completely agree with earler comments that loads developed in a lab are always to be preferred. Few of us test different powder positions and temperatures or use any kind of pressure gun be it lead units of pressure or pisa.

On the other hand 2.7 BE with a 148 wadcutter and 3.5 BE with a .45 wadcutter are such classic loads that I even trust my memory and I know they've been used millions of times.

RugerOldArmy
October 3, 2005, 07:51 PM
ClarkEMeyers,

I think he specified .45 Auto...kind of supporting Smokey Joe's point.

ClarkEMyers
October 3, 2005, 08:25 PM
Yes of course he did and I knew that. My point was that there are a very few loads that have passed from experience into folklore - and in the days when Lyman was associating pet loads with people in their manuals and Gil Hebard was quoting favorite loads of the winners everybody knew about the 2.7 BE for centerfire (.38 special) and 3.5 BE for .45 gallery pistol and once you get beyond those few it's time for the manuals. The same could be said about the Hensley and Gibbs #68 and some BE up to about 5 grains for action shooting to stick to .45. The mention of .38 Special was to give an additional example of a load so common that everybody knew it once upon a time. Obviously nothing to do with the listed cases and interest.

Ed Matunas in particular but Dave Andrews and others have occasionally written about the lengths they had to go to in order to validate the loading manuals they put their names on. None of us is likely to do that, not having our time and expenses paid so that loads beyond the manuals may well have some weakness - Bluedot loads may show odd temperature effects that never showed up for the guy who lives in Florida - the point is to be careful taking somebody's load fired someplace you don't live in a gun you don't own and not checking it against the book.

My bad for not specifically saying that a 148 grain wadcutter is commonly associated with a .38 Special target load and the #130 bullet is a nominal 185 grain semi-wadcutter and the famous #68 at about 200 grains has a sharp shoulder but fits the lines of 230 grain ball and so loaded that the edge of the meplat is tangent to the curve of the ogive on the 230 grain ball then the #68 will feed very reliably in guns that may not in those days have been modified for wadcutters. Notice that the current sort of stepped down feed in newer Colt 1911's will feed a wider variety of bullets more reliably.

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