Cimarron Wyatt Earp Buntline: Anyone got one?


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David S
October 2, 2005, 12:10 PM
i found this online http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/WyattEarp.htm
does anyone have one? Ive seen um for sale around $650ish which seems to be a good price.
I love Tombstone, one of my favorite movies and to see the EXACT gun for sale for such a reasonable price is mighty tempting....
Does anyone have any experience with um?

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Dave T
October 2, 2005, 04:46 PM
If you want a "movie gun" then more power to you. Understand, there is no historical evidence that Wyatt Earp ever used, carried or owned a SAA with a longer barrel than the standard 7.5" model. The "Buntline Special" is pure fabrication, admittedly dating back to Ned Buntline himself in the 19th Century, but fabrication none the less.

Dave

Old Fuff
October 2, 2005, 06:26 PM
Actually, there is some circunstantial evidence ... Among several other things, "Buckskin" Frank Leslie ordered an identical(?) revolver from Colt while both he and Earp were in Tombstone, and on the same day Wyatt openly carried his sidearms to discourage a lynch mob ...

I don't know that the Cimarron revolver is an "exact copy" of Wyatt's supposed gun, because if he did have one no one knows exactly what it was. However one can safely say that the Cimarron reproduction is faithful to the one used in the movie. If you like L-O-N-G barrels on a revolver you might like this one ...

mec
October 2, 2005, 10:09 PM
There was a small range of serial numbers encompassing this sort of long barreled revolver. Nobody can find evidence of an order by Buntline for the guns he supposedly gave Earp, Tilgman and others but strange things do happen to records. One account I read when I was a kid said that Tilgman immediately cut his off to ejector rod length. No idea if this was true or not.

Years ago, I fired a friend's second generation buntline with 12" barrel - (some of the longer barrel colts had as much as 16") It was nice and accurate. Modern shooters and collectors don't seem very interested in the second gen buntlines and a great many of them install shorter barrels. A friend has one given that treatment by Peacemaker Specialists and the revolver used in the old Speer #3 reloading manual was a cut down .45 buntline.

David S
October 2, 2005, 11:24 PM
so has anyone ever seen .shot or owned one by Cimarron as pictured above? I see them on their website but i cant find any for sale anywhere online.

El Rocoso
October 3, 2005, 01:42 AM
I have seen one, about a year ago at a major gun store in Oklahoma City, OK. It was a nice looking piece. I have a Cimarron Model "P", 4.75", .45 Colt and it is excellent.

David S
October 3, 2005, 11:44 PM
to answer the earlier gentlemans statement, yes, im moreless wanting it because i love tombstone....

El Rocoso
October 4, 2005, 01:11 AM
Well then, historical accuracy aside, it is a fine looking piece and my experience with the Cimarron Ubertis has been good: Go for it!

David S
October 4, 2005, 01:39 AM
This may seem a ignorant question but is Cimarron a seperate company from Uberti? how are they related?

El Rocoso
October 4, 2005, 02:10 AM
Uberti is the Italian manufacturer (now owned by Beretta, to futher confuse) and Cimarron is an importer. Several U.S. distributors sell Ubertis under their own name. Several years ago, Mike Harvey, pres. and founder of Cimarron went to Uberti and required several changes to their 1873 style single actions to make them more true to the original designs and, according to whom you believe, still has the Cimarron Ubertis manufactured to his specifications. In any case, Cimarron is a great bunch of folks selling some very nice guns. Go to Gunblast.com and search for Cimarron for several of their on-line reviews.

Old Fuff
October 4, 2005, 08:39 AM
David S:

Tombstone - the place, the history or the movie? :)

Each is different, and sometimes unrelated.

David S
September 14, 2006, 10:52 PM
i guess i was referring to the movie.........
Ive actually asked Cimarron if they would put those grips on a shorter model P, but they wont...... so would peacemaker specialists be able to shorter and recrown the barrel of that buntline?

Old Fuff
September 15, 2006, 12:03 AM
...so would peacemaker specialists be able to shorter and recrown the barrel of that buntline?

They might, but then you might better buy a Uberti barrel in a shorter length, and have the barrels switched. In the future if you changed your mind you could have the long barrel switched back.

Also if you shorten the barrel and have a new front sight mounted, the barrel should be reblued, and that finish might not match the rest of the gun.

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