cons of pro-gun stickers


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Yohan
March 28, 2003, 10:43 PM
What are some possible cons of displaying a pro-gun sticker? The biggest concern that worries me would be backlash from criminals who may assume that you have a firearm in your car whenever you park. The second, would be the fact that should you ever be forced to use your gun- the lawyers on the other side could convince the juries that you were a gun toting maniac who had a bumper sticker gun endoring your love for guns- and if the jury was liberal, they might assume that guns = maniac. What do you guys think?

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jsalcedo
March 28, 2003, 10:58 PM
The other problem is rogue gun hating civilian hating cops.

They have been know to profile people with NRA stickers and all the other various cold dead hand stuff.

I get hassled enough for being a baseball cap wearing long hair
in jeans and a NRA shirt. I don't want a big sign on my truck that says come harass me.

Its the same for those folks that put pot leaf and Norml stickers on their cars. Boy are they asking for it.

Yes this is a free country and you are free to make yourself a target for overzealous law enforcement.

Stevie-Ray
March 28, 2003, 11:02 PM
The latter of what you said is indeed true. A shooting team sent to your house will gather up anything that remotely resembles shooting paraphernalia; targets, bumper stickers, gun magazines or books, should you ever be unfortunate enough to shoot somebody. This will be used to the prosecutor's advantage and your downfall. In the first class I took for CCW, we were told not to even display our NRA stickers that are given to us every year. Well, I draw the line at this crap. It's about time we stood together and told the liberal pansies that enough is enough. I'm for posting NRA stickers everywhere.

Double Naught Spy
March 28, 2003, 11:11 PM
I have no real paranoid concerns about the government, but do feel that visual keys that you might own property of great value, such as guns, is not a great idea to advertise. Neither are stickers that advertise other valuable things like, "American Jewelers Association."

The other aspect is one I consider personal preference. I have no wish to debate guns with any of my neighbors who might be anti-gun and who might see such as sticker as an invitation to debate. I don't do religious stickers for that reason either.

I am also not a big fan of carrying a gun concealed but wearing a hat or shirt that says, "GLOCK" or "COLT" or some other notable gun brand name when I am out and about around town. I don't mind wearing such stuff to the range, but otherwise I don't think it prudent.

I find it funny how people claim photo vests scream 'gun' and they seem to only scream 'gun' to gun folks. "GLOCK" or "Kill them all and let God Sort them Out" with a picture of a gun seems to scream "GUN!" much louder and to a much larger audience.

Just a thought, but if I am a bank robber entering a bank and wish no troubles and I see a person wearing a NRA shirt, GLOCK shirt, at t-shirt that says POLICE or SWAT on it, you can bet that if I decide to shoot somebody, it will be the folks who identified themselves to me as being the greatest potential risk for having a gun and probably knowing how to use it if given a chance.

gun-fucious
March 28, 2003, 11:18 PM
but its so fun to merge in front of a MMM stickered minivan

TheLastBoyScout
March 28, 2003, 11:18 PM
heheheh my grandfathers neighbors asked him to get them NRA stickers for deterrence. Its weird walking down a suburban street seeing that logo on every living room window, and knowing there's only like 3 shooters on the block.

Standing Wolf
March 28, 2003, 11:19 PM
I believe the nation needs to see more law-abiding armed American citizens.

CZ 75 BD
March 28, 2003, 11:19 PM
So I reckon my Sons of Confederate Veterans license tag sends a message as well.

gun-fucious
March 28, 2003, 11:20 PM
especially with this rig:

Combat-wombat
March 28, 2003, 11:26 PM
we have enough armed, law-abiding citizens, but they don't stand out. All those liberal pansies(that term fits well when describing liberals) are seeing the reports on gun-biased news and stereotyping gun owners.

CWL
March 28, 2003, 11:32 PM
The biggest con is that your car's paintjob will become the target of antis who see it in the parking lot.

synoptic
March 29, 2003, 12:17 AM
My car is already a target of any T-sippers (UT students and alumni) that may take offense to my Howdy Damnit sticker or my many other aggie stickers, why not a couple gun stickers as well? I have yet to be stereotyped by any cops due to my aggie loyalties, I am more worried of that than getting harassed about uns here in texas.

ahadams
March 29, 2003, 12:26 AM
gun-fucious - I want one of those! just tell me what kind of shocks and suspension they use to absorb the recoil from two Ma Deuces! :D

a little more seriously, having helped teach the Personal Protection (NRA speak for CCW) course back in VA: we were told to avoid ANY bumperstickers and such that could be construed by a hostile attorney to imply prior intent. That means stuff like "this truck protected by S&W" and "keep honking I'm reloading". It specifically did NOT include a fraternal sticker such as my NRA Life Member sticker.

S_O_Laban
March 29, 2003, 01:08 AM
A little OT, BUT I always get better customer service when wearing my Postal Service sweatshirt and NRA hat:D :D

4 eyed six shooter
March 29, 2003, 01:46 AM
I have my NRA Life Member sticker, American flags and NRA Armed With Pride stickers on all three of my vehicles. I am proud to be a gun owner and make no apology for being one. I find that people are less likely to try and mess with you if the belive you are armed. Criminals will usually pick an easier target. As far a people messing with my vehicle, it has never been a problem and that's why I pay my insurance company every month. I don't leave my fiearm in my vehicle, it goes with me where it belongs.
I live in an area where 50% of the pick up trucks have a rifle in the rack in the back window and the local law enforcemen knows that 80% of the vehicles on the road have a firearm in them, so it's no big deal to them. Besides they would not dare mess with me as I service their Glocks and 870's.
Good Shooting, John K

Abe
March 29, 2003, 11:41 AM
I know what you mean Yohan. I was recently reading an NRA book, "NRA Guide to the Basics of Personal Protection in the Home." In it they discuss the possibility that gun books, magazines, etc. may undermine your legal defense in a self-defense situation. A quote from the book:

"The fact that you are simply a military history buff will likely not counter the perception among some of the jury that you are a bloodthirsty, trigger-happy, gun owner looking for an opportunity to apply the killing techniques that you enjoy reading about."

Are they going a bit OT, of course. But they are trying to make a point. Personally, I read this and thought I'd have to sell off a bunch of books and unsubscribe to a bunch of magazines. Either that or I'd have to get another Top Secret Buried Contraband Bunker to hide all these things. Of course I wouldn't locate it near my Top Secret Buried Ammo Bunker! :D

Needless to say I'm not getting rid of any good reading material nor any good bumper stickers. Frankly, it does my heart good to see an NRA tag on a vehicle. You know that while you may disagree on a myriad of other issues at least you can agree on one. In some way aren't you giving into the Left if you don't feel you can put anything on a car except possibly a pro sports team sticker for fear of it being used against you? I'd say it's about time we start to use some of the stupid things they stand for (and put on their bumper stickers) against them! :mad:

Finally, I enjoy a good 'ol "Protected by Smith & Wesson" bumper sticker. It makes me smile. It also makes me long for the olden days when you could say or do simple, legal things (like expressing an opinion) without it being taken\used in a legal context. Basically, back in the goodle days when we weren't overrun with lawyers and they're liberal bedwetting pals.

- Abe

redneck2
March 29, 2003, 12:08 PM
if a few NRA stickers would be as bad as copies of Handgunner, G&A, American Rifleman, and a safe full of guns???

You can solve the dilemma by selling all your guns and discontinuing your subscriptions. Other than that, it looks like you're gonna be pro-gun.

coonan357
March 29, 2003, 12:16 PM
geeez I wonder what they would think of me if they ever had to get evidence in case of a armed enterance on the abode and went into the reloading room ??:scrutiny: :uhoh: look at the right lower corner , my 1st civilian qualifer...

LiquidTension
March 29, 2003, 12:20 PM
My shooting buddy and I have an agreement worked out. If ever anything should happen that might cause a team of JBTs to come steal our guns from us, the guns will all be moved quickly to the other person's house and ownership of them will be "transferred."

"Sorry officer, the one you took is the only gun I currently own."

As for magazines and books, a decent defense attorney should be able to spin it so it looks like you are studying to be able to avoid bad situations (because oh yeah - YOU ARE) and not trying to become an assassin or something.

justice4all
March 29, 2003, 01:08 PM
A decent defense attorney should be able to have the "evidence" excluded as irrelevant. Otherwise, it should be decent grounds for appeal. This sounds to me to be much more prejudicial than probative, and that is the usual standard.

Abe
March 29, 2003, 02:58 PM
coonan357, based upon that photo you are definitely pro-gun!! :)

For your own good you'd better take up basket weaving and get a subscription to "American Basket Weaver" real quick! :D

Or else you could just get a few more guns!!! :) :D

- Abe

Bonker
March 29, 2003, 03:14 PM
Hey synoptic, not all of us T-sips are like that...me for example :)

Peetmoss
March 29, 2003, 07:47 PM
The day I joined the NRA I put the sticker on my car proudly. It is just above my AMD Athlon sticker. These two stickers tell everyone why I drive such a POS. I also have one on my tool box at work and some of Oleg's pro gun work in my office at work.

I am proud to be a gun owner.

dude
March 29, 2003, 08:04 PM
as with most other things in life............moderation is the key

I only have a small but tastefull Dan Wesson logo decal on the back of both my truck and New Beetle. It keeps the tailgating down and passes the message across effectively enough, be I at the local dive bar or Starbucks. It has brought up several pro gun conversations at both!

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