32 H&R mag/info/ammo


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Bob79
October 3, 2005, 01:28 PM
I called Georgia Arms today and currently they don't have any of the 100 grain 32 mag because of some complication getting the supplies from Speer. They said it should be available soon (several weeks) and they only have 85 grain right now, & it gets 1200 FPS (100 gr is 1100 FPS). So I ordered 100 rounds of the GA stuff to go with my incoming 100 rounds of Federal (80 85gr & 20 95 gr).

I asked what barrel length they used for the numbers, and he said it was 7.5 inches, wow. I believe I read another post somewhere else here that they were also told GA used a 7.5 in barrel. Now I know there is no exact formula to figure how much FPS you lose, but a good educated guess is approx 50FPS reduction for every inch of barrel shorter. I've read this numerous times as a good "rule of thumb" to use, and I even compared it with some figures I found at www.handgunsmag.com/ammuniton/pocket_dynomite/ At this site the author used a 1 7/8 smith to fire some .38 ammo to see what the actual numbers were when using a short barrel.

For example: Hydra shok+P (not nyclad) got an avg of 810 fps which is 187 on the energy side, and Federal lists it at 950/258. Winchester +P 130gr SXT got an avg of 825 for 196 energy, and Winchester says 925/247. Gold dot 125 gr +P got an avg of 825, which is 188 for energy, and Speer says it does 945/248. So you can see that the -50fps for every inch of barrel is a decent method to use.

Anyways to compare to a 2" snub: using this I figured the GA 85 grain at 1200 FPS out of 7.5 inch barrel would be about 925/161. And the Federal 85 grain at 1100 FPS out a 4.5 inch barrel to be approx 975/179. So it looks like the loads are really similar in performance to one another. I plan to shoot both and see what I shoot better with, but on paper the Federal should be a little better. I still want to shoot the 100 grain stuff when they get it in though.

It looks like the 32 HR mag really is almost equal to the .38+P round out of the short snubs, although the .38 still makes a bigger hole. I've got a 432 on the way, and it looks like it should fit the bill nice as its a little lighter than the 642/15 oz crop of S&W's, recoils less, and you get one more round. I'm not taking anything away from the 442, as thats almost what I ended up getting. But the 432 was cheaper (but yeah ammo is more), and I think I'm going to love the lower recoil. Oh yeah I even called S&W and they said that they have no plans to discontinue the 432/431 guns, and that they actually sell a decent amount of them. Now if more people would just make ammo for them!

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nero45acp
October 3, 2005, 01:31 PM
That and some speedloaders.



nero

Bob79
October 3, 2005, 01:34 PM
Nero, doesn't the HKS 32-J work for the 432PD? I hope so, because I ordered one from Midway USA last night.

Thanks.

nero45acp
October 3, 2005, 02:06 PM
Bob79, I missed the HKS 32-J. Yes, it should work. I'll have to order a couple myself. Thank you for the info!



nero

280PLUS
October 3, 2005, 03:23 PM
We clocked one 100 gr GA .32 Mag coming out of my 1 7/8" barrel at 977 FPS at 15 ft from the muzzle. IIRC that came out to ~210 ft-lbs while the best .38 +P comes out around 213. Regular .38 Spec was about 189, again IIRC, it's been a while.

Dollar An Hour
October 3, 2005, 03:29 PM
A friend is looking for a backpacking/camping lightweight snubby and is considering .22 WMR, .32 and .38 Spl.

He thinks the .22 Mag is cheapest to shoot but I think it lacks power if you need to stop anything.

How's the .32 feel as far as perceived recoil compared to a .38 out of a light snubnose?

Bob79
October 3, 2005, 04:18 PM
Wow those are good numbers. Was that just one round, or did you fire & clock several rounds?

I was just using a method that seemed fairly good for figuring the numbers. But if you got 977fps out of a 1 7/8 barrel that is great. I was asking if it was just one shot because that seems really high, how could the FPS only drop by 123 when the barrel they used was over 5 inches longer (to get 1100)?

I'm not calling you a liar, so please don't mistake me when I ask. Because if their 100 grain stuff does perform like that, then I'll try to get my hands on some ASAP.

The guy on the phone said that a lot of people like the 85gr they are selling now because it was hotter. But me personally I'd like to have the heavier 100gr, especially if it moves at 975+ :D

280PLUS
October 3, 2005, 05:03 PM
oops... :o

280PLUS
October 3, 2005, 05:05 PM
Bob, Unfortunately it was only one round, there was a guy there with a chrono and I asked him to run one through. I didn't want to push it. He was duly impressed. The only thing I know is my revolver has a really tight gap so that may have had something to do with it. I wasn't aware of the 85 Gr GA had, I've never seen it at their website. I don't think...

Dollar, we just had a discussion on that here...

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=158313

:D

I just went back to GA and I'm not seeing this 85 Gr, maybe it's a new offering they haven't posted yet?

how could the FPS only drop by 123? I thought it was 25 FPS per inch for pistols. That would work out almost exactly.

cookekdjr
October 3, 2005, 05:15 PM
I was at the GA Arms factory store Friday. They simply ran out of 100gr bullets, so they loaded up some ammo w/85's. When they get more 100gr bullets in, they'll go back to the 100's. BTW, the display case was out of .32 H&R mag altogether. When I asked about some, the attendant said "well, I think we just made some in 85gr today, let me get you some".
That's how I ended up w/4 baggies of 85gr .32 ammo.
-David

Bob79
October 3, 2005, 07:17 PM
Yeah like Cooke said, they said they didn't have the 100 grain in, and all they had was 85 grain. But you're right 280, they do not have the 85 gr stuff listed on their website.

I'll have to check back with them in several weeks to see if they got 100 gr again, and pick up at least 100 rounds to give a try.

Hopefully I'll have the 432 in my hands by this Friday as the gun shop in TN should have my payment by Weds at the very latest (mailed this past Sat). If the little 6-shot works out, I'll take it to the Smith to have the internals stoned and smoothed out to help the trigger pull, cause I know its gonna be heavy.

I'll report back on what I think of it after I shoot it.

280PLUS
October 4, 2005, 06:13 AM
I was at the GA Arms factory store Friday. DANG!! I want to go too!!

:D

Stainz
October 4, 2005, 07:01 AM
I bought 200 GA Arms 100gr .32 H&RM's a month or two back for an intended 432 purchase and/or my 1895 Nagants. The pusher upped his price on the 432 - took a page from the oil companies, I suppose - so I tried a cylinderful in each of my Nagants... DON'T! It is hot - and, despite what some Nagant sellors will tell you, it is unsafe due to the spitting and the excessive swelling - which renders the cases not reloadable.

Now - if it makes 1,000 fps from the 432, that is 211.5 ft-lb - or 1,269 ft-lb/cylinderfull. Try the Rem R38S12 158gr LHPSWC +P 'FBI loads', like I have in my 2" 10 - which chrono-ed 834 fps - and you'll get 243.5 ft-lb and 1218 ft-lb/cylinderfull. The thump should be a bit rougher in the so-fed 642 rather than the 432. The ammo is easier to come by - certainly, the 158gr LRN/LSWC loads by UMC, etc, will be the same price as cheap .22 Magnum, too.

I have 186 of those 100gr GA Arms .32 H&RM's... and nothing to launch them with!

Stainz

Bob79
October 4, 2005, 07:56 AM
Stainz, check your PM's.

280PLUS
October 4, 2005, 08:50 AM
BTW, the display case was out of .32 H&R mag altogether. I like hearing this because it means people are buying it which means they'll make more and maybe other manufacturers will pick it up and it won't be such a tough to get / pricey ammo anymore.

One thing I can ell you is they (at least GA) will not exceed SAAMI pressures related to the old steel .32 H&R Mag guns. It could be made hotter for the new guns but they're afraid (and rightly so) that someone will put too hot a round in an old gun and blow themselves up. Just FYI. I asked them if they had plans of making it hotter and they said it is as hot as SAAMI will allow.

I have a few hundred rounds stashed away. :evil:

and I'll bet I know what bob PM'd over to Stainz... :p

Intersting numbers on that .38 +P BTW. Can you show the formula that you figured that out with? I have seen it before but don't have it to memory.

Bob79
October 4, 2005, 09:29 AM
280-Are talking about what I posted in regards to the .38+P in the first post?

If so, the ACTUAL figures were posted by that website from a man who shot the actual rounds out of a S&W 1 7/8" .38 snub. I think he fired 3-4 rounds of each type of ammo, then posted the FPS of each round. I added each FPS measurement together for each rouund then divided by the number of rounds to get the avg and thats the number I posted.

Then I compared it (actual performance out of 1 7/8") with what the manufacturer lists the bullet's performance at, to show the reduction in peformance with a short barrel. Make sense or no?

If you're talking about the estimate of taking off 50FPS for every inch of barrel reduction, I read that numerous times. And if you look at the figures from my first post, its a fairly decent method to use.

280PLUS
October 4, 2005, 01:18 PM
Hi Bob,

Actually, i was refering to the .38 +P "FBI" round stainz had listed, sounds pretty potent. But still 1269 ft-lbs per cylinder beats 1218 :D

I don't know, somehow I thought rifles were 50 fps per inch and pistols were 25 fps per inch but don't ask where I got that idea from.

Bob79
October 5, 2005, 10:23 AM
Gunbroker.com

Item #38234887 S&W 432PD

No Reserve, starts at $327, and buy it now is $337, with shipping $25.

Ends tonight about 11:00PM.

Pretty good deal from Discountgunner.com

cookekdjr
October 5, 2005, 10:31 AM
Just bought a new 431PD from kstactical.com for $321 plus $10 shipping to my dealer.
I highly recommend them. The 432PD is the same price, I think.
Good luck,
David

P. Plainsman
October 5, 2005, 01:02 PM
Sounds like Georgia Arms is doing a brisk trade in their .32 H&R Mag offering. Glad to hear it. Their stuff has some clear advantages over the more common Federal and Black Hills .32 Mag fodder, which aren't bad. While still easy to shoot (with a sharp crack) the GA rounds appear to generate good numbers.

I was impressed with 280PLUS's chrono data of GA's 100 gr .32 Mag JHP @ 977 fps from a snubby. I'm tempted to get a chrono just to add to the shallow pool of .32 Mag ballistic data.

nero45acp
October 5, 2005, 07:03 PM
What I'd really like to see is some .32 H&R Magnum balistic gelatin results. I've done a number of searchs on the internet, but have found nothing.


nero

Bob79
October 7, 2005, 10:35 AM
Shot the 432PD for the first time this morning. Put about 60 rounds through it, about half were the Federal 85 gr JHP, and the other half were Gerogia Arms 85 gr (YES 85 grain) JHP.

The recoil was fairly light, it was definately lighter compated with shooting standard pressure .38's out of my 342PD (11 oz). I would say it was about half as much recoil as my 342PD. It tended to shoot high a couple of inches, and I do usually shoot a little high with snub revolvers (compared with semis), but this was even more high. Another guy even put a cylinder through it, and said he was aiming down and the rounds hit high for him as well. No big deal, it was my first time out, and at 7 yards I kept everything in the 8 ring.

The Federal ammo had more muzzle flash, and had more recoil than GA, which would lead me to believe that my info in the first post was correct. Meaning the Federal stuff is actually hotter than GA, but I did not have a chrono so I don't know for sure. But I still want to try the GA 100 gr ammo when the start selling it again.

Question: just to double-check I can fire .32 S&W, and .32 S&W long out of the gun correct? I know it will leave more to clean up, and cause the casings to stick more though.

So far though, I LOVE THIS GUN.

Ash
October 7, 2005, 10:47 AM
The guns chambered for 32 Mag will fire .32 longs just like .357 will shoot 38's. Indeed, the .32 Mag is basically the same idea, a more powerful .32 that will accept lower powered .32's. But, the .32 H&R Mag isn't that old a round. I would think any revolver made for the round would be pretty strong.

Ash

P. Plainsman
October 7, 2005, 12:33 PM
The Federal ammo had more muzzle flash, and had more recoil than [the 85 grain] GA, which would lead me to believe that my info in the first post was correct. Meaning the Federal stuff is actually hotter than GA, but I did not have a chrono so I don't know for sure.
Interesting. My experience is with the 100 gr Georgia Arms rounds, which definitely kick more (and crack louder) than the Federal stuff, though their recoil is still very mellow in absolute terms.

Given that 280PLUS has clocked the 100 gr GA load at 977 fps from a snub, it sounds like the GA 85 grainer rounds would easily crack 1000 fps from your little S&W. I'd prefer the 100 gr load for defense, but it still sounds like the little 432PD with that 85 gr load would shade a .380 pistol as a defense gun.

Maybe I'll get hold of some of the 85 gr GA ammo too for comparison purposes. instead of waiting for them to get the sweet 100 gr offering back in stock.

I am officially pining for a 432PD. On the flip side, I warmly recommend the rarely seen .32 Mag Ruger SP101 if you want a larger, longer-barreled gun in the caliber. Sweet shooters. Just have your FFL order one if you can't find it on the shelves.

280PLUS
October 7, 2005, 01:07 PM
I warmly recommend the rarely seen .32 Mag Ruger SP101 if you want a larger, longer-barreled gun in the caliber. Sweet shooters. So many guns, so little time and $ :(

I too am surprised to hear the federals seem hotter, Of course those are 85 gr and not 100. I too believe that 85 gr should break 1000fps, I'd love to get some data on that. I find I actually only have about 200 rounds of the GA. Maybe I should order up some of this 85 gr stuff and see for myself. :D

Bob79
October 7, 2005, 02:32 PM
I'm sure the 100gr GA ammo shoots different than the two 85gr bullets I fired today. But the Federal did have more flash/recoil, and I'm not saying it was a huge difference like I said "ouch" after shooting the Federal. The difference wasn't that big, I'd say the recoil was maybe 5-10% more with Federal, but the flash was very noticeable. The other guy there with me even made a comment about how he too noticed the bigger flash with the Federal ammo.

Thanks for the update on the .32 S&W longs/.32 S&W ammo. I think I may try that just for the range, and shoot about 1/2 and 1/2 between those and the magnums. And obviously carry the magnums. I think this gun offers a PERFECT balance of gun weight, bullet performance, and recoil control. After I bought it I wondered if I should have tried to find a 332/331, but now I'm very glad I did not and got the 432. The .32 H&R mag is better than the .380acp and just slightly less effective (I think) than the .38 special. And the reason I say the .38 is better is because they are both virtually equal in energy deposit, but the .38 makes a bigger hole. And yes one could argue that the 32 H&R mag is more likely to expand to a .38 diameter size because it travels faster, but JHP don't always expand.

Plainsman-I do like the .32HR round, BUT in such a heavy gun like the Ruger SP101 I would rather go with .357 mag. Recoil with .38's in that gun is almost non-existant (even +P) and .357 is fairly controllable. I've almost bought one now several times, I just think from a self-defense stand-point the .32 HR makes more sense in a lighter gun. ALTHOUGH, from a pure marksmen/entertainment point of view, I see what you're saying. Me personally, all my guns are purchased first for self-defense, and fun second.

Stainz
October 7, 2005, 03:01 PM
Ha! I told my wife years ago that my 7.5" .454 SRH was for home defense. Last year, on an episode of 'Monk', she heard the Ruger .454 Casull had been used in one of their episode's murders - ostensibly by the circus's elephant tamer - and it was their 'elephant' gun. She immediately quizzed me as to why I needed such a revolver. I quickly quipped that it had been most effective, as we had not been over-run by wayward pachyderms. She wasn't as amused as I thought she would be.

I, too, have lots of PD/HD revolvers... from Nagants to .44's to .45 Colt (The .454 is gone now... I may be susceptible to pachyderm attacks!).. Oddly, they sure get shot a lot. Odder still, try to find a loaded firearm in my home! Still, that little 432 does seem like a neat pocket revolver. BTW, the 977fps velocity only yields 1269 ft-lb for six...

Stainz

280PLUS
October 7, 2005, 03:53 PM
(The .454 is gone now... I may be susceptible to pachyderm attacks!) You'll need the Blue Elephant gun then. The blue gun is universal because no matter what color your elephant is you can always hold it's trunk closed until it turns blue and then use the blue gun... :p

cookekdjr
October 7, 2005, 04:05 PM
I shot my 431PD for the first time today. I put about 50 rounds of GA Arms 85gr through it.
Recoil was much much less than firing .38's out of an Airweight J-frame.
I was shooting it all over the place, but my shooting buddy put 4 rapid-fire shots touching in the X-ring. :what: Maybe I just need to practice. :o
Anyway, The gun was a total pleasure to shoot. Its light enough to forget you are carrying, has a six-round cylinder, and little recoil.
We decided it was the perfect package for concealed carry.
Have a great weekend,

David

P. Plainsman
October 7, 2005, 08:57 PM
Plainsman-I do like the .32HR round, BUT in such a heavy gun like the Ruger SP101 I would rather go with .357 mag.
I sympathize. The SP101 is indeed a robust little hunk, overbuilt for this low-recoiling cartridge. My ideal .32 Mag woods gun would be a S&W J-frame with a 3" or 4" barrel -- the Model 631/32 series included such a gun, I believe. Alas, they're no longer made and fetch big $$$ when you can find one on the used market.

Thus, if you want to take advantage of the .32 Mag's accuracy with a non-snubby double action .32 Mag revolver, you have only one choice among current production revolvers, the SP101. And they are good guns.

Bob79
October 10, 2005, 09:16 AM
Did Hornady used to make a 100 grain XTP H&R mag round that was JHP? Because I bought some that was labeled as such at the gun show this past weekend. However it was maked on a generic box with a computer generated label that the person had put on it. On the casing though it was maked like a Georgia Arms round with the two stars and said 32 HR. I asked the seller if it was GA arms ammo or Hornady and he didn't know. There were also some JHP S&W long marked on the box as Hornady XTP and I bought those also. So, does it sound like I got old Hornady ammo?

scubie02
October 10, 2005, 02:26 PM
Maybe its just ammo loaded with the hornady bullets? I bought a few boxes of those recently when they were on sale.

280PLUS
October 10, 2005, 02:33 PM
I can't answer that question but I DID want to mention I noticed Federal has a 95 gr Lead SWC offering in .32 H&R. I woukld have bought some but it was $8.99 for 20 rounds :eek:

scubie02
October 10, 2005, 05:29 PM
black hills makes a 90 gr lead flat point that's $13.99 for $50

gunfan
October 11, 2005, 09:02 PM
This is my simple proposition:

Take a 98 grain bullet (preferably WC or SWCHP configuration) load it into a .32 S&W long case to a velocity of 1000 fps, (from a 4" barrel) and denote it as a .32 S&W Long (+P) loading. Emblazon the box with a red sticker as did IMI on some .38 S&W Special loadings "only for use in revolvers chambered for .357 S&W Magnum." Said sticker would read "only for use in revolvers cambered for .32 H&R Magnum or as stated by the manufacturer."

Such a load would yield 217 fpe from a 4" barrel and from a 2 1/2" barrel should squeeze out 925 fps and 186 fpe. This should be more than adequate for self defense applications. Works for me!

Would that work for you?

Scott

P. Plainsman
October 11, 2005, 10:53 PM
This is my simple proposition:

Take a 98 grain bullet (preferably WC or SWCHP configuration) load it into a .32 S&W long case to a velocity of 1000 fps, (from a 4" barrel) and denote it as a .32 S&W Long (+P) loading.
Can you get a powder charge in a .32 Long case that will deliver 98 gr @ 1000 without excessive pressure?

Sincere question; I'm not a reloader.

None of the recommended .32 Long loads in my Hornady Reloading Manual (hey, I said I'm not a reloader, I didn't say I'm not a gun nerd! :D) approach that level of energy.

gunfan
October 12, 2005, 01:29 AM
You'll see Old Fuff's reference to P.O. Ackley's recipe for a hot .32 S&W Long load. back it off by 7/10ths of a grain and work up VERY slowly! At any sigins of excess pressure, STOP!

I hope that this helps,

Scott

cookekdjr
October 13, 2005, 09:59 AM
black hills makes a 90 gr lead flat point that's $13.99 for $50
Unfortunately, it runs about 750 fps out of a 4&5/8 inch barrel. :banghead:
At least GA Arms makes reasonably-priced carry ammo.
-David

Dollar An Hour
October 22, 2005, 06:10 PM
Hey guys. The S&W M432 has my attention as a pocket carry gun - 13.5 oz and 6 shots.

I'm weighing the 432 against an ultralight .38 snub. Obviously the ammo is cheaper for the .38, but it's alot less pleasant to spend time with at the range.

Ammo costs - Plenty of Federal factory ammo on the shelf at Sportsmans Warehouse in .32 Long or .32 H&R Mag, but it starts at about $7/20 rounds and goes up from there. :what:

So, what will it cost me to get into reloading this round? I may still have a RCBS Rock Chucker at my folks house - I reloaded .38/.357 some years ago, not sure if Dad kept the stuff though.

gunfan
October 22, 2005, 10:41 PM
You could spend about $260.00 and have everything that you need to get started with a full-blown single-stage press. After that, you could spend another $100.00 or so and have enough to load two to three other cartridges. (.38 S&W Special/.357 S&W Magnum or .44 S&W Russian/.44 S&W Special/.44 Remington Magnum.) It is worth the time and money to do this, or get into a Lee Loader for as little as $100.00 for a "one-at-a-time-type" of hand loading? I believe that you be better served by getting into a single-stage loading press. Extra dies will eventually permit you to expand your horizons and load just about any handgun/rifle catridge you wish.

Carbide dies will permit you to reload without lubricating straight-walled pistol cases. Look into geting either a handgun or rifle reloading manual that will illustrate the proper method of accomlishing this rather complex task.

Whatever, you decide, I wish you well.

Scott

Ash
October 24, 2005, 02:00 PM
You can get a Nagant Revolver and use .32 Mags in it.

Ash

Stainz
October 24, 2005, 03:42 PM
The proper Nagant round, 7.62x38r, tapers from .357" ahead of the rim down to .335" mid way and .320" at the chamber's exit. My new GA Arms Starline brass loaded 100gr JHP .32 H&R Magnum measure .335" ahead of the rim, and .334" at the mouth. After firing from a Nagant, besides spitting since the case is too short to gas seal, the rim end swells to fill the Nagant's chamber bores - well out of normal re-sizing range, rendering it difficult to extract, useless for reloading, as well as dangerous. One other danger involves the canting of the cartridge's straight walls in the tapered bore, causing one edge of the bullet to shave lead/cladding - more spitting. Don't use .32 H&R Magnums in a Nagant (I know, some distributors say it's okay... I won't use any more!).

The softer cased and lower pressure .32 S&WL's are less dangerous, although I have found that the MagTech 98 gr LRN variant's case splits ~50% of the time as well as swells, extraction isn't easy either way. They don't seem to spit as much - I have chronoed them ~620 fps vs the Russian 'target' real Nagant ammo's 590 fps - and the also proper commercial Fiocchi's hit 675 fps. The latter two don't spit, but still require the SA-style extractor to eject the cases. The best ammo I have tried is my homebrew - modified .32-20 cases sized in a tapered M1 carbine carbide die - and loaded with .32 lead/clad/jacketed bullets - over 2.5-2.9gr Titegroup (660-760+ fps). The spent cases fall out! A lot of work... but worth it, I suppose.

I tried 7 of those .32 H&R Magnums in each of two of my Nagants - and have 186 left - for a future S&W 432PD or SP-101 .32 purchase... makes sense - buy a gun for some ammo I have...

Stainz

BluesBear
October 25, 2005, 11:27 AM
Very good post Stainz!


And you forgot to mention that even the H&R priduced .32 Magnum revolvers will have a much better trigger pull.

Hammerdown
November 6, 2005, 08:03 AM
Hello
This caliber is my PET. I have handloaded it for a long while now, and have found these loads to be about peak, for my wants. I have both frames The -J-& -K-In S&W wheel guns.Ealry on.. I tried ALL The powders that were listed for this round and found most slow and dirty, so I decided to give the H-110 a go.Here is a run down of what I found. Also this caliber is NOT shown with much data, and one NEEDS to be careful when handloading.
S&W-Model 631-J-Frame-2" Barrel results
The-J-frame load I worked up was as follows. I used star-Line Brass trimmed to spec. I loaded with Hogden H-110 Powder, carefully aproached and stoped increasing at a max. level of 10.0 Grains. I used a C.C.I. Magnum primer and a 85 grain Hornady X.T.P. Bulett. This load typically clocked 1015 out of my snubby checked with my Chrony. The load to me is MAX. It did show some mild signs of flatened primers. It extracted well, and there were no signs of case streching, nor other high pressure problems just the primer issue I mentioned.Accuracy was great with and average of 3/4" at 17 Yards and I was this close as it involved the Chronograph set up.


S&W-Model 16-4 K-frame-6" Barrel Results
The K-frame is a much larger frame so I worked the load slowly to max for me. I used the same cases from Star-Line trimmed to spec. I carefully worked up to 11.9 Grains of Hogden H-110 Powder. Again, a C.C.I. Magnum primer was used, along with the Hornandy 85 grain X.T.P. At 11.6 grains the extracted cases showed NO signs of pressure issues. I increased to 11.9 and noticed SOME showed a slightly flatened primer after ignition, so STOPED increasing there. The Barrel is much longer on my 16-4 at 6" so I was rather impressed with and average of 1488-1519 on a 25 shot string & suspect the slight spread due to crimping issues. I DID place a heavy crimp on some to see how they reacted. The part that was as equaly impressive was, the hotter I loaded this round, the MORE accurate it became.The final result was and average group size of 1/2" at 17 Yards using the chronograph set up. I was pleased with the results and have LOGGED this to be a stout load for the .32 H&R Magnum. "PLEASE" be careful if attempting to Load like what I have shown here as each and every gun may act different, and hand loading is a gamble to anyone doing so.You will NOT find any load recomendations for the H-110 Powder as they were given to me by a friend. be careful and have fun as "I MAKE-NO claims" of this load being safe in ALL guns that might be used. This caliber is highly UNDER RATED.. Hammerdown

gunfan
November 6, 2005, 12:03 PM
Bad boys, bad boys. Whatchagonna do? Whatchagonna do when they come for you?! :) I still think the the .32 H&R Mag is a "bad boy!"

Scott

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