Bersa .380


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Dollar An Hour
October 4, 2005, 12:13 PM
How are these guns as far as dependability? Looks like they'd make a nice carry piece for the money if they're reliable. Every gun shop I visit seems to have them, so somebody must want them. :p

Or am I better off with a cheaper to shoot 5-shot .38 snub?

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birddog
October 4, 2005, 12:17 PM
I carry mine nearly every day, and it has been 100% reliable with thousands of rounds.

Try doing a search on here using "Bersa Thunder" as your criteria, and you'll be amazed at the postive response on multiple threads to this little pistol.

albanian
October 4, 2005, 12:22 PM
They are great little guns no doubt. For $200 they are pretty hard to beat in their size and weight for an auto. Most are well above average in terms of accuracy and reliabilty.

A search will turn up hundreds of threads with lots of info.

Mongo the Mutterer
October 4, 2005, 12:23 PM
Personal preference = snub

Why?

Totally reliable
Bigger image if I have to point it at a BG
Easy to carry
Speedloaders are light and compact.

SW642 :)

cidirkona
October 4, 2005, 12:29 PM
I miss mine, I should have never sold it...

If you can find the firestorm model, it has the nice rubber grips, better sights and has that tang cut off of the trigger guard so it'll fit in PPK holsters.

-Colin

axmurderer
October 4, 2005, 12:40 PM
I've owned one and the wife still does. No complaints...

middy
October 4, 2005, 12:44 PM
Mine was 100% reliable, but I wasn't very accurate with it. It tended to shoot 6-8" low with largish groups, and I didn't want to file down the front sight. :p Maybe me, maybe a lemon, some people get good accuracy from them.

They're pretty large for a .380, so don't expect it to be a pocket gun. Personally, I'd rather have a .38 snubbie or a 9mm for CCW.

gunfan
October 4, 2005, 01:01 PM
I have no complaints concerning this little autoloader. It is a great autopistol. Perhaps it is a bit on the large side for a .380, but I wouldn't trade it away for much of anything! IT WORKS! :cool: (That's more than I can say for S&W's Walther PPK.) :( :rolleyes:

Scott

38snapcaps
October 4, 2005, 01:05 PM
I've had mine for just under three years and 1700 rounds. I carry it and feel very confident with its accuracy and dependability.

Just last weekend I was doing a comparison with the Bersa and a 642. I can no where near shoot the snub as well as the .380. Yeah yeah I know all the whining about .380's but when from sixteen feet I can empty a mag into a six inch circle as fast as I can pull the trigger-THAT makes me feel very confident.

The only thing you have to consider is the recoil spring needs replacing at 1,000 rounds. You can tell because the slide won't go fully forward. Not a big deal, springs only cost $4.00.

Go to Horge's website and do some reading, you'll be impressed I'm sure.

Dollar An Hour
October 4, 2005, 01:07 PM
Wow, very positive responses!

I'm finding there are alot of nice guns out there when you take "big name" blinders.

This sounds like it'll be more fun to shoot than my S&W Sigma .380 was! :fire: Not that that is saying much...

Along these lines (large-ish .380s) is the CZ-83 worth a look as well?

AirForceShooter
October 4, 2005, 01:45 PM
all CZ's are worth a look as are Taurus.
save money and buy ammo with what's left over.
AFS

MICHAEL T
October 4, 2005, 02:03 PM
Visit us athttp://bersatalk.com Information, Horge's Chapter House was hacked earlier this year. It back up and running but much info was lost. Horge is also a Mod at Bersa Talk.

cidirkona
October 4, 2005, 02:09 PM
Aww man, that really sucks! He had really put alot of work into that!

-Colin

ChickenHawk
October 4, 2005, 02:24 PM
+1 on Bersa Thunder .380

I carry my Glock 36 now but I still love my Bersa, and it has been 100% reliable.

Cheers,
ChickenHawk

Stephen A. Camp
October 4, 2005, 02:45 PM
Hello. Here are some observations on the Bersa:

http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/MakarovBersa.htm

http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/Sig%20Sauer%20Bersa.htm

http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/Bersa%20Thunder.htm

Best.

TC-TX
October 4, 2005, 02:48 PM
Great Weapon, no failures ever (many rds thru mine), Great value, a tad heavier than most CC but no recoil -- it is a Stable Workhorse!

Phaetos
October 4, 2005, 03:59 PM
I'd say they are fairly reliable. I don't own one yet, but will soon or maybe two. My range is on their 2nd one for rent. The guy said they had one in there that went thru 20,000 rounds before they retired it and he bought it.

cidirkona
October 4, 2005, 04:50 PM
I think it's odd that the only person said it's only "fairly" reliable hasn't owned one yet... :evil: :D

-Colin

ChuckB
October 4, 2005, 05:07 PM
When I got my .380, I loved the way it fit my hand, and its accuracy. Sadly, it was never dependable enough to trust my life with. It went back for service two times, then I finally got rid of it. A lot of folks have reliable Thunders, and I'm a little envious of them. I have a S&W 637 now, and it's right for me.

Chuck

Dollar An Hour
October 4, 2005, 05:28 PM
Why is the Bersa seemingly so much more popular than the CZ-83 which looks very nice also. Both are a bit large for a .380.

Is it mainly the extra $100 or so for the CZ?

Has anybody had a chance to compare the two? :cool:

lebshiff21
October 4, 2005, 05:57 PM
I have a Bersa and love it. It does shoot a little low, anyone else have this problem? Will filing the front site down make a difference? Fun little gun to shoot, never had a problem with FTF or FTE.

TexasRifleman
October 4, 2005, 07:42 PM
Fairly reliable?

I guess, if you call over 1000 rounds with no failures of any kind "fairly" reliable.

Ooooookay......

And I DO own one, and carry it regularly.

Ky Larry
October 4, 2005, 11:22 PM
I have a CZ-83 with satin nickle finish. I've shot several hundred rounds thru a Bersa and almost bought one. Then I shot a CZ-83 and there was no comparison. Fit and finish are as good as anything SIG or HK are producing. Accuracy is excellent. Reliability has been 100%. CZ has better sights and a better trigger than Bersa. My -83 has become my "every trip to the range " gun. YMMV.

Dollar An Hour
October 4, 2005, 11:45 PM
CZ has better sights and a better trigger than Bersa. My -83 has become my "every trip to the range " gun

Thanks Larry. Sounds like the CZ-83 is a beauty. Now I just need to find a store with one in stock!

cidirkona
October 5, 2005, 04:02 AM
The 83 isnt nearly as pretty as the Bersa!

-Colin

106rr
October 5, 2005, 05:36 AM
I tried several 380s before I bought the CZ 83. The Bersa is without a doubt one of the best values available in a reliable defense handgun. I think the Sig 230 is one of the best looking but I kept getting unexplained fliers from it. Walther PPK and PPKs were not reliable for me, both gave me a slide bite as well. The Bersa was more accurate, has good sights, high reliability and low price. The CZ was most accurate by a long shot. The sights are exceptional, the trigger is good, it points well, and it exudes quality.
The price on CZ 83 has gone up a lot. I have never seen a 380 as accurate as the CZ. The list is now over $400. I paid only $299 on sale at Reed's in San Jose, Ca. Bersa would be a better value at todays prices.

cidirkona
October 5, 2005, 05:51 AM
Well said, 106rr!

+1

-Colin

LightningJoe
October 5, 2005, 10:43 AM
My Bersa 380 seems to like JHPs better than FMJ. I occasionally have FTFs with FMJ ammo. The JHPs may be loaded hotter than the FMJ range ammo, perhaps providing more energy to run the action. Or the shorter OAL may be better somehow.

The_Shootist
October 5, 2005, 09:49 PM
Liked mine until the trigger mechanism broke on me at the range :( .

Hevne't bothered to get it fixed - whats the point? If something on a gun breaks, how do you know something else won't break in the middle of a ..ahem..serious social situation.

Maybe I was just unlucky and got a lemon?

Stevel
October 5, 2005, 10:35 PM
I just bought mine tonight. I have been thinking about one for a while and saw one for $199 in a shop. May get out to shoot it tomorrow. I'm looking forward to it.

MICHAEL T
October 7, 2005, 12:05 AM
http://bersatalk.com

Dollar An Hour
October 7, 2005, 02:20 AM
Finally got to check out a Bersa Thunder today. Pretty nice for $199 NIB.

But my friend ended up buying a CZ-83, what a beauty. Just like I thought it'd be. He got a good deal at $305 NIB.

If I get a .380 at some point it'll be a CZ-83 - I like that pistol! :)

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