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FEMA steps in it again. >
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/1004phxfema04.html#

[Omni04]

At issue is a rule in FEMA's Code of Conduct that prohibits Urban Search and Rescue teams from having firearms.

How can you have search and rescue without guns? Granted i see both sides of the arguement, but IMHO they should have the option.

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Looks like FEMA is not going to be getting much help in the future.

[spacemanspiff]

to clarify, FEMA suspends their rescuers for including POLICE who were armed to protect the rest of the team.

[NCP24]

After Hurricane Katrina, firefighters faced deployment to areas plagued by looting and lawlessness. Twice, Phoenix's team was confronted by law enforcement officers who refused to let them pass through their communities and told them to "get out or get shot," Gordon said. Ok. . . that was nice of them.

[bountyhunter]

to clarify, FEMA suspends their rescuers for including POLICE who were armed to protect the rest of the team. What a bunch of morons.

Their teams should be free to use local LE for protection if needed, or military if they are deployed into the region.

God help us all.

[444]

As a sort of related side note, one of the guy's from our team that was in N.O. was telling me that one day he had to work with two sheriff's deputies from somewhere in La. The guy from our dept was in charge of the team. He said that if they saw a pet in a house, they would note the GPS coordinates and turn that data in so another group could attempt to save the animals. While working with this sherrif, they came to a house with a cat sitting in the window. He started writing down the information and he hears BOOM. He looks over and this sherriff had shot the cat through the window. My buddy told him, look, we can't have unnessessary gunfire like that. People are on edge, we have had people getting shot at, don't fire your weapon like that again.
At the end of the day, they were at the command post putting away their gear and all that and he hears, BOOM BOOM BOOM he says that everybody hit the dirt except a few squads from the 82end Airborne who immediately locked and loaded and got into an attack mode. However, it was just our redneck sherriff again: that is how he unloads his shotgun at the end of the shift. He just shoots it into the air until it is empty. :eek:

Bottom line: In a large scale disaster like this, you are going to be working with all kinds of people from all kinds of backgrounds. some of them are going to be doing stuff that is wrong, crazy or whatever.

[Sistema1927]

Here is a picture that I took in Louisiana a couple of weeks ago while performing disaster relief duty.

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7096/img04331eg.th.jpg (http://img38.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img04331eg.jpg)

The running joke was this: "If you are ticked at someone, post a FEMA sign on their back" (equal to a "kick me" sign.)

[Standing Wolf]

Your hard-earned tax dollars and mine at play.

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444

So did Mr. Redneck Sherrif get full of lead or what. You're leaving out the end of the story. :neener:

[444]

Well, I can't honestly say that I know. That was the end of the story. I am sure that if anything else would have happened, it would have been mentioned.

[Sindawe]

While working with this sherrif, they came to a house with a cat sitting in the window. He started writing down the information and he hears BOOM. He looks over and this sherriff had shot the cat through the window. My buddy told him, look, we can't have unnessessary gunfire like that. People are on edge, we have had people getting shot at, don't fire your weapon like that again. You buddy showed much more restraint than I would have. Needlessly shooting someone elses pets warrants immediate dental extraction via gun stock at the very least in my book. :fire:

Guess its a good thing I'm not LEO.

[444]

Well, I wouldn't go that far.
I am not sure it was needless.
The guy said that the cat was obviously starving and was obviously almost dead. The sheriff said that the animal was suffering and he was just putting it out of it's misery. He just didn't understand that in some parts of the world, and in some situations, you just can't discharge a firearm anytime and anywhere you want to. :scrutiny:

[Kurush]

The guy said that the cat was obviously starving and was obviously almost dead. The sheriff said that the animal was suffering and he was just putting it out of it's misery.Somehow I don't think that will be much comfort to the owner when she comes home and finds her living room covered in bloody mangled chunks of her pet.

[444]

Oh well.
Since they arrived at the house in a boat, the remains of the cat might have been concealed by the water, mud, sewage....................... that were there before the cat was shot.
Of course I have to admit that it would probably give them comfort if the cat was just lying there dead from slow starvation rather than having been shot.