10mm for hogs and deer??


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phantomak47
October 4, 2005, 02:21 PM
I was wondering if anyone can answer the following questions.

1. What is the max range for taking a deer or a hog cleaning with a 10mm?

2. What is the best load for hunting with the 10mm?

Has anyone out there taken an animal cleanly with a 10mm?

I am not looking to use the 10mm for a main weapon, rather having it for self defense in the back country.

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50 Freak
October 4, 2005, 03:02 PM
I know the 10mm is a good round if properly loaded. I also know that many of us use the 10mm as a hunting round.

But I always think back to a story a close buddy of mine told me. This guy is a big Glock fan. Has one (if not two) of pretty much all the Glock models in production. His favorite is his Glock 29 (10mm compact). Well the story is that he was going to church one morning and saw a bunch of people gathered outside in the parking lot. They were standing next to a raccoon someone had hit. My buddy is a veterinarian and examined the raccoon. He saw it couldn't be saved and was in a lot of pain. So he waited till everyone went into the church and got his G29, dragged the raccoon into the woods and shot it almost at point blank.

Now he's a big fan of the 10mm but he said he was astonished the raccoon didn't die and he had to finish it off with his knife as he didn't want to shoot it again.

He was using Winchester silvertips with is a decent 10mm load. Says it kind of made him doubt the lethality of the 10mm.

Now you want to go hunting a deer or boar with one? I'd love to hear the results.

bailer
October 4, 2005, 03:03 PM
Doubletap loads a 200 grain xtp @1250fps. That should do out as far as I'd be comfortable shooting my Glock.

NordicG3K
October 6, 2005, 01:07 AM
My guess would be that a racoon would be too small for a 10mm Silvertip and it probably fully penetrated before it even started to open up acting more like a FMJ than a JHP. If he'd been using a lighter, faster load like DTs 135gn JHP the results would probably have been different.

only1asterisk
October 6, 2005, 01:39 AM
NordicG3K,

If he had shot it in the right place with a .22 the results would have been different.

I've killed several deer with an early model 92 in 38-40 loaded to 10mm pistol velocity, my grandfather killed many more and his father called it his “hog rifle”. The 10mm is adequate out to whatever distance you can consistently make good hits


David

Byron Quick
October 6, 2005, 02:57 AM
I've killed a buck with a Glock 29. Target of opportunity. He just stood there looking at me from 25 yards away. Shot him in the neck. He ran about fifty yards. Georgia Arms GoldDot 155 grain.

Some animals are tougher than others. A buck shot throught the lung, diaprhagm, and stomach with a 12 gauge slug. Buck laid up in dog fennels a quarter of a mile away until tracked down by a beagle. The buck managed to run another quarter of a mile before collapsing. Coup de grace given with the same Glock 29. Buck tried to get up. Shot again. Buck tries to get up. Shot again. Buck admits he's dead. All of the bullets were in the center of the buck's neck. About a two inch group.

I put down a fawn once with a .38 Special after it was hit by a truck and sustained a pelvic fracture. Shot it in the top of its cranium. Bullet exited from its throat. Little deer tried to get up and walk away. +P JHP.

Everything that I've shot with a 10mm has died. Maybe not DRT but within a reasonable amount of time. I doubt the one shot, instant lethality of ALL handgun calibers and most rifle calibers. Yes, there are plenty of one shot kills with pistol calibers. There's plenty of individual animals that are bullet sponges, too.

NordicG3K
October 6, 2005, 09:48 AM
If he had shot it in the right place with a .22 the results would have been different.

Very true, but I was refering to a shot in the same location. With the higher velocities of the 10mm the 175gn Silvertip is designed to penetrate deeper before initiating expansion. The racoon's body simply wasn't "thick enough" to allow for proper expansion. Because of this the round most likely just drilled a hole through the animal's body without doing enough damage to kill it instantly. In such a case it's quite possible that an identical bullet shot into the same area of a deer or hog would produce quicker incapacitation than in a smaller animal because it would stay in the body long enough for the bullet to perform as designed.

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