Supreme Court nominee Miers owned handgun


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ThatIsAFact
October 5, 2005, 09:33 AM
Is there really such a thing as a .45 revolver? Or is that like the "police officer's Glock service revolver" that I once read about in a local newspaper?

WASHINGTON (AP) - Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers' footprints on contentious social issues suggest a moderate position on gay rights, an interest in advancing women and minorities and sympathy for anti-abortion efforts. Judging from the Smith & Wesson she once packed, she favors gun rights, too. . . .

A decade before the 2001 terrorist attacks, Miers defended constitutional freedoms in a time of danger, with words that would hearten two groups of activists in the post-9/11 world of added police powers - civil libertarians and the gun lobby.

"The same liberties that ensure a free society make the innocent vulnerable to those who prevent rights and privileges and commit senseless and cruel acts," she wrote in Texas Lawyer, when she was president of the state bar. "Those precious liberties include free speech, freedom to assemble ... access to public places, the right to bear arms and freedom from constant surveillance.

"We are not willing to sacrifice these rights because of the acts of maniacs."

Miers once owned a .45-caliber revolver, a gift from a brother who was worried about her safety when she lived alone in Dallas, says Judge Nathan Hecht of the Texas Supreme Court, who has known Miers for 30 years and has dated her. "It's a huge gun -- he wanted to be sure she stopped the guy," Hecht said in a telephone interview. The judge recalled one Sunday afternoon driving out to the country, setting up tin cans on a dirt road and trying to teach Miers how to shoot.

How was her aim? "She was terrible," said Hecht, who added that she kept the gun for a long time but said he was unsure if she ever fired it again.

The complete Associated Press story appears here:http://apnews.myway.com/article/20051005/D8D1JRI00.html

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Greg L
October 5, 2005, 09:36 AM
.45 revolver? Sure, 45LC (long colt) or you can shoot ACP with moon clips to hold them in the cylinder (like with 9mm revolvers).

beerslurpy
October 5, 2005, 09:38 AM
Guy at work has a 45LC/45ACP revolver. He likes it because he can use ammo from his 1911.

Derek Zeanah
October 5, 2005, 09:39 AM
So someone bought her a 625, she shot it once and couldn't hit anything with it, and likely never fired it again. No evidence that she carried or anything.

I think that Dianne Feinstein was more of a gunny than that. :rolleyes:

davec
October 5, 2005, 09:40 AM
Sure... Smith & Wesson and Colt made one for the US Army.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/images/m1917rev.jpg

beerslurpy
October 5, 2005, 09:44 AM
We're going to regret this. She feels like another Kennedy.

Technosavant
October 5, 2005, 10:44 AM
Gun ownership does not a 2nd Amendment supporter make. Remember, a large number of the anti-gun crowd keeps and carries firearms for their own protection. However, they feel that such privileges are warranted for themselves and their "elite" friends. The general public (us) clearly does not need such things. :banghead: :fire: :cuss: :barf:

I haven't heard much bad about her thus far, I just also have not heard anything which gives me warm fuzzies, either.

AirForceShooter
October 5, 2005, 11:44 AM
somebody else bought her a gun.
she shot it once a whole lot of years ago.
nobody knows if she still has it.

This makes her a 2A supporter?

You must be kidding

AFS

Molon Labe
October 5, 2005, 11:52 AM
I support freedom of the press, yet I've never worked for the press.

riverdog
October 5, 2005, 11:53 AM
An older S&W Mod 25 would have been .45 ACP and the 25-5 would have been .45 LC. S&W still makes the S&W 625 in .45 ACP (http://firearms.smith-wesson.com/store/index.php3?cat=293609&item=831430&sw_activeTab=1). It doesn't automatically make her a 2A supporter, but it's a good sign. Certainly better than if she'd never owned a gun.

hso
October 5, 2005, 12:07 PM
No, but this could -

"The same liberties that ensure a free society make the innocent vulnerable to those who prevent rights and privileges and commit senseless and cruel acts," she wrote in Texas Lawyer, when she was president of the state bar. "Those precious liberties include free speech, freedom to assemble ... access to public places, the right to bear arms and freedom from constant surveillance.

"We are not willing to sacrifice these rights because of the acts of maniacs."

Gary H
October 5, 2005, 03:13 PM
I'm overly biased and will interpret this non-information with a jaded view of things. I hope, but I've yet to see anything that provides real information regarding her views. I trust Bush...to reduce the size of government..protect our borders...not kiss Ted Kennedy... so I'll just trust that he has nominated the right person. The man is compassionate, so give him a break.

Brick
October 5, 2005, 03:20 PM
What gun for Mrs. Miers?














:evil:

SIOP
October 5, 2005, 04:36 PM
Big deal. Feinstein, Shumer, Carl Rowan, ad nauseum all carry. They just don't want YOU to. And just like Condoleeza Rice, I have yet to read a quote where she says that the 2nd is an individual right and not a collective right. When Rice made her 2nd amendment statement, she talked about how her daddy and his pals formed a "militia" to protect themselves.

Luchtaine
October 5, 2005, 05:26 PM
scrolled up and saw my point already posted. thanks hso.

That being said I am still leary guess we shall see.

Bad Words
October 5, 2005, 05:38 PM
Was the original post edited to add her quote and the article link, or is everyone just missing or ignoring it?

That quote sounds very promising to me - sounds like she's not going to let a few stupid people such as the Columbine shooters tamper with our gun rights.

Monkeyleg
October 5, 2005, 07:00 PM
I'll take a politician or judge who doesn't own a gun, but supports the Second, over one that talks about the "rights of hunters and sportsmen."

Lone_Gunman
October 5, 2005, 07:09 PM
Dianne Feinstein owns a gun, and even had a CCW in California.

Is she a supporter the Second Amendment also?

TonkinTwentyMil
October 5, 2005, 08:52 PM
As I posted a couple days ago, the REAL litmus test is:

-->> Did she have a a Texas concealed carry license?

Because, as a good Texas citizen, she'd have certainly been readily qualified to obtain one.

Now, I'm not so naive to think that other SCOTUS judges should all pursue getting such a license (though it might not be a bad idea). However, as a "conservative" single female in a state that's relatively pro-Second Amendment, the issue for her remains:

-->> Why didn't she get a concealed carry permit? And... another handgun that's a helluva lot more concealable than that big ol' .45 revolver (if that's what her gun actually was)?

Succumbing to professional/cultural (law firm) peer pressure that looks down on the eeeevil "gun culture?" This is a pointed question for some brave member of the Judiciary Committee to ask.

Father Knows Best
October 5, 2005, 08:57 PM
Reginald Brown, an attorney who worked closely with her in the White House Counsel's office, described her today as "a gun-toting evangelical...."

I like that "gun-toting" part! :D

71Commander
October 5, 2005, 09:45 PM
She ain't in yet! :cool:

Nehemiah Scudder
October 5, 2005, 11:13 PM
Of course she's in.

There's no talk of filibuster, and even if there were, there's more than enough for 60 votes. No Republicans are going to stray, either. Bad political things happen to people who cross Bush.

Standing Wolf
October 6, 2005, 12:33 AM
Dianne Feinstein owns a gun, and even had a CCW in California.
Is she a supporter the Second Amendment also?

If you were to ask her, I'm sure she'd tell you she is. Only a fool would believe her, of course, but realistically speaking, I doubt there's a lie too base or stupid for Feinstein to tell—and retell, and retell, and retell, and...

Zundfolge
October 6, 2005, 12:45 AM
We're going to regret this. She feels like another Kennedy.
I keep hearing this but I've seen zero evidence to back it up.

Is that just pure pessimism or is there some real, tangible reason to believe she's a statist/leftist? Or do you just not like/trust Bush so you expect the worst?

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