Red Cross anti-gun?


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45crittergitter
October 6, 2005, 02:24 PM
I am in possession of a Red Cross hurricane assistance application form which prohibits the use of relief funds to purchase alcohol and firearms. Apparently one is allowed to purchase streetwalkers, lottery tickets, and democrats...

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hkmp5g17
October 6, 2005, 03:19 PM
FunnY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

scout26
October 6, 2005, 06:14 PM
Notice it does not prohibit the purchase of ammo..... The Red Cross believes that you should already own a gun.......

Lupinus
October 7, 2005, 12:52 AM
of course they are anti gun, if someone told me I had to wear a uniforn with cross hair's on it al lthe time I might be anti gun to :neener:

DeadCalm
October 15, 2005, 01:38 AM
Aw, come on guys, don't they get enough grief already? Funny, though . . .

spocahp anar
October 15, 2005, 02:32 PM
well its better than the Fema credit card that was good enough to buy an $800 designer purse.

Who didn't see that coming a mile away?

MICHAEL T
October 15, 2005, 05:02 PM
Saw where casinos were re during slots to take Fema card. Gives them something to do rather than try to find a place to stay and maybe look for work. News said other night its costing taxpayers (we all know who they are ) 11 million per night for rooms.

Logan5
October 22, 2005, 01:05 AM
Just came back from three weeks in east Texas with the RC and a lot of my friends are still there. The Red Cross is not anti-gun per se, it's just that being armed isn't part of the operation. It's just not part of feeding people a hot dinner. Texas LE handles that part, along with the Texas National Guard, and people in Texas ought to be glad to have such good people on the job. Every time I thought I was exhausted enough to die, I looked over at the Texas NG, Beaumont PD, Texas Highway Patrol, etc, and found I had a bit more to give to the job. They inspired me every day to give more than I thought I had to give, and my hat is off to them. Especialy the 449th Aviation Supply out of San Antonio; if you see those guys, buy them a drink and send me the invoice.

45crittergitter
October 23, 2005, 06:35 PM
If they are not anti-gun, then why will the let you spend their relief money to replace anything lost except alcohol or GUNS????

Logan5
October 25, 2005, 12:41 PM
Sorry, I misread the question there. I sort of bought the story on why I personally couldn't be armed beyond my swiss army knife and 50 pounds of 165 degree beef stew.

Good question, I guess. I wasn't in FS, so I never saw any of those forms, just the ones where you account for all your potato chips, etc.

If I had to make something up, I'd say they're worried the media would splash up a giant headline like "Red Cross buys everyone in the south a fifth of bourbon and an assault rifle."

Also, you have to keep in mind the intentions of the people who donated the relief money. If 40 little old ladies chipped in $10 a piece to get you $400 in relief funds, probably no more than 12 of them were thinking you'd be spending it on a replacement gun, and of those, probably no more than three would agree on whether you should go 9mm, .45, .40, or just get yourself a surplus SKS, or maybe a used Winchester 94. ;)

TechBrute
October 25, 2005, 01:09 PM
I have no dog in this fight, but considering the number of sheeple in the country, how many would donate to an org that allows relief money to be used for buying guns.

TxCajun
October 25, 2005, 10:47 PM
If they are not anti-gun, then why will the let you spend their relief money to replace anything lost except alcohol or GUNS????
My opinioin is that they are in the disaster relief business. They are not an insurance company. Maybe those are the only items they specifically forbid, but I think there are many other things that people should not purchase with Red Cross Funds. Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I don't see replacing lost firearms or buying alcohol as "disaster relief".

If you are truly concerned about their "anti gun stance" then my advise is to not accept any money from them. Hopefully the money I donated will go towards procuring food, clothing or shelter for people who REALLY need it. As much as I enjoy shooting, I certainly didn't donate money to the Red Cross expecting someone would use it to replace their gun. :(

FAT PAT
October 26, 2005, 02:11 AM
FEMA and the Red Cross are giving money in the form of either a check or debit card to just about anyone.I live in San Antonio and have seen it first hand.The Red Cross checks dont need I.D to cash.So pretty much anyone who wants to go down to the shelters to get paid does so.I havent seen any stipulations on what can and cant be purchased.IMHO i would never donate to the Red Cross.

TxCajun
October 26, 2005, 02:36 AM
That is just patently untrue. Victums who recieve any funds are registered with both agencies. Identification is required except in extreme cases, like when people are plucked off of roof tops without ID, etc. Lengthy forms are filled out. They make every effort not to waste resources on the undeserving. Obviously, with such a grand scale of operations, some fraud is going to ocurr, but they do prosecute offenders. My brother lives (lived) in New Orleans, my mother in SW Louisiana (Rita) and a close friend that is an RN volunteers with Red Cross. She spent several weeks in NYC after the Towers went down, and in Louisiana after both storms. The Red Cross is not perfect but they do a momumental task. There is NO ONE who could step up and do what they do if they did not exist. They have rendered assitance to generations of Americans, and helped millions in their time of need. They are a fine organization with a nobel calling, and IMO, to slam them with such a pack of lies is really a cheap shot. You should hope that you never find yourself a victum of some catasrophe and in need of assistance. The one thing you were doubless correct about is that you would never donate to them. :cuss:

TxCajun
October 26, 2005, 02:45 AM
BTW, maybe you hadn't noticed, but the title of this forum is HURRICANE RELIEF COORDINATION... Practical topics: coordination of action, info on safety and resource availability. No political posts here.


I don't see where this is a place to come and critize or run down the people and agencies out there that are trying to help people. To actively discourage people from donating is really low. It's like you've hit bottom... and begun to dig. GET A LIFE! :fire:

FAT PAT
October 26, 2005, 03:21 AM
you are so right The Red Cross and FEMA have done a top notch job.:barf:

30 cal slob
October 26, 2005, 04:21 PM
I don't see nuttin' about not being able to rent a hooker with RC funds.

I guess that service fits in the "relief" category.

:neener:

TxCajun
October 26, 2005, 09:32 PM
you are so right The Red Cross and FEMA have done a top notch job.
Right. We'll just put you in charge. That'll fix everything. I'm sure you could do much better. And what HAVE you done, besides criticize, complain and discourage others from helping? You're a real piece of work. You should really do something constructive, like learning to write an actual sentence.
:neener:


I don't see nuttin' about not being able to rent a hooker with RC funds.

I guess that service fits in the "relief" category.
No! That's disaster relief. New Orleans without hookers qualifies as a disaster, right? I was there two weeks ago. The French Quarter is hopping and there are plenty of relief and cleanup workers all over town. Getting the hookers back into the city is part of R Nagan's plan to rebuild the economy. :D

Manedwolf
November 12, 2005, 09:54 PM
My opinioin is that they are in the disaster relief business. They are not an insurance company. Maybe those are the only items they specifically forbid, but I think there are many other things that people should not purchase with Red Cross Funds. Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I don't see replacing lost firearms or buying alcohol as "disaster relief".

If you are truly concerned about their "anti gun stance" then my advise is to not accept any money from them. Hopefully the money I donated will go towards procuring food, clothing or shelter for people who REALLY need it. As much as I enjoy shooting, I certainly didn't donate money to the Red Cross expecting someone would use it to replace their gun. :(

Personally, I'd suspect it's more of a liability issue than any anti-gun stance. It's just that you KNOW that if someone used the card to purchase a gun, then stupidly didn't lock it up and someone stole it and/or used it improperly (which is the owner's fault), then relatives would take aim at the Red Cross for lawsuits because, OMG, they BOUGHT it with the Red Cross debit card, blah blah.

Anyone doubt that'd happen?

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