Inventive Ways to CCW

[Seven High]

I have been trying to think up inventive ways to ccw. I have come up with ccw in a lunch box, a transistor radio with the electronics removed, a joggers water bottle carrier. Does anyone have other ideas? Just looking for options.

[MatthewVanitas]

Could you put a Seecamp or NAA .32 into an IPod carrying case with a set of earphones coming off it?

[Dionysusigma]

Smartcarry. :scrutiny:

Let's see... inside a book, an umbrella (shaft is the barrel)...

What if one were to take a long-barreled (9") Ruger Mk.2 (or 3), hang a laser such as the new guide-rod type off the front of the triggerguard, mold some clay onto the thing, and stuff it into a glove? Glove hangs out the sleeve of the coat, with your hand inside the sleeve. Small hole cut in middle finger of glove allows the laser to be used, and index finger hides the barrel. Hole at base of thumb allows empties to eject.

Inventive? Yup. Practical? Let me know if it works. ;)

Oh! What if you were to fill a coke can with concrete, drill out enough of the bottom for a 20ga shotgun shell, and rig a simple striker that's actuated by pulling the tab of the can? (SBR tax applies)

Can of Axe body spray and a lighter.

Have a neurotic chihuahua as a lap-dog.

Hk UMP in Les Paul case. :evil:

[robert garner]

Lanyard + overalls Might not work up north, but round here folks would jus' get disgusted figurin Zeke was scratchin his .... and boom!

[BA110N Man]

The Feds haver redifined AOW to include such things as those evil breifcases that are designed for HK's PDWs and those little leather in-the-pocket holster designed to hide the outline of "pocket pistols"... what ever those are.

[Gannet]

The Feds haver redifined AOW to include such things as those evil breifcases that are designed for HK's PDWs and those little leather in-the-pocket holster designed to hide the outline of "pocket pistols"... what ever those are.
Got a reference? Because I have a hard time seeing how a particular type of holster can be defined as a "weapon".

[Dionysusigma]

Only holsters that allow the usage of the trigger before it leaves the holster--ie, trigger cutouts.

Never thought they were a good idea anyway. Drop a pen in your pocket, shift the position of your body, and... well, boomsplat. :eek:

[EddieCoyle]

I was thinking of making a C4 hat.

[TrapperReady]

Buncha guns in a guitar case?

Machine gun in a guitar case?

Rocket launcher in a guitar case?

[3rdpig]

I always thought that a perfect hideout for a pistol would be one of those big hands with the index finger held up, you know, the ones they wave at football games. Of course ya'd look pretty silly walking down mainstreet with that finger on your hand, but people would be laughing at you, not calling the cops! And if you needed to use your gun, just point the finger and shoot through it.

[c_yeager]

The Feds haver redifined AOW to include such things as those evil breifcases that are designed for HK's PDWs and those little leather in-the-pocket holster designed to hide the outline of "pocket pistols"... what ever those are.

Incomplete information is worse than no information at all.

The ATF has stated that any device that allows the weapon to be fired without having to be withdrawn, that also obscures the identification of the weapon is an AOW.

Think of it like this. A briefcase that was designed to fire at the pull of a trigger would be an AOW. A briefcase that was designed to accept an MP5 and allow it to be fired while still in the case would be functionally the same thing.

[CleverNickname]

A operational briefcase or trigger cutout holster is not an AOW. They're not guns. Read the definition of an AOW, a piece of leather does not meet the definition. It's the combination of such a briefcase or holster with a firearm that's an AOW.

[valor1]

Ever tried hiding a Glock 26 inside a Lay's or Doritos wrapper? :evil:

[VG]

A Fanny Pack is less dramatic but more effective and attracts zero notice.

[Super Trucker]

What does AOW stand for?

[Kurush]

Have your right lung surgically removed and implant a biofeedback-controlled MAC-10 in its place. Note that tactical reloading may be difficult if you don't have a rib spreader handy.

[David W. Gay]

What does AOW stand for?Any Other Weapon.

[PaulBk]

Any Other Weapon.

-PB

[Dionysusigma]

A operational briefcase or trigger cutout holster is not an AOW. They're not guns. Read the definition of an AOW, a piece of leather does not meet the definition. It's the combination of such a briefcase or holster with a firearm that's an AOW.
Like that ever made any difference to the ATF. A suppressor is considered a firearm. Yes, it doesn't shoot, but it still counts.

[Average Joe]

A small gun inside a large mitten.

[jmtgsx]

Went to San Antonio with my wife about 2 weeks after purchasing my Beretta 96. Of course I took it with, not wanting to leave it in the hotel room. Had a backpack with a zipper pocket that attracted no attention whatsoever. Pocket was unzipped about 3 inches, pistol was holstered inside and holster was secured onto a strap I rigged inside. Wore it over one shoulder & about half the evening on the river walk had my hand inside pack & the gun in hand. Not because I felt threatened...just because I could :D

Since then (about 4 years ago) the newness of cc has worn off & I carry 3:00 IWB & never check it except with the occaisional elbow brush. Might break out the back pack when we go to Eureka Springs simply for all the crap I'll end up having to tote. :fire:

[RyanM]

Someone had to post a link to this thread (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=19897)! There actually were some good suggestions though, like keeping an NAA mini in a sunglasses case.

[CleverNickname]

Like that ever made any difference to the ATF. A suppressor is considered a firearm. Yes, it doesn't shoot, but it still counts.

The ATF considers suppressors to be firearms, because the law says plain as day that suppressors are firearms, not just because of some ATF interpretation.

§ 921. Definitions (http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000921----000-.html)

(a) As used in this chapter

...

(3) The term “firearm” means
(A) any weapon (including a starter gun) which will or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive;
(B) the frame or receiver of any such weapon;
(C) any firearm muffler or firearm silencer; or
(D) any destructive device. Such term does not include an antique firearm.

I'm not a lawyer, but that seems pretty obvious to me.

As for the question of whether briefcases and holsters can be AOWs, or whether an AOW only exists when those objects are used in conjunction with a firearm; again the law is pretty clear: (http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode26/usc_sec_26_00005845----000-.html)

§ 5845. Definitions
For the purpose of this chapter
..

(e) Any other weapon
The term “any other weapon” means any weapon or device capable of being concealed on the person from which a shot can be discharged through the energy of an explosive, a pistol or revolver having a barrel with a smooth bore designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell, weapons with combination shotgun and rifle barrels 12 inches or more, less than 18 inches in length, from which only a single discharge can be made from either barrel without manual reloading, and shall include any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire. Such term shall not include a pistol or a revolver having a rifled bore, or rifled bores, or weapons designed, made, or intended to be fired from the shoulder and not capable of firing fixed ammunition.

When someone has a piece of leather or a briefcase that can discharge a shot, then they'd have an AOW. Until then, it's the combination of a holster with a trigger cutout and a pistol, or the combination of firearm and a operational briefcase that are AOWs.

[rockstar.esq]

Some of you guy's are a bit of a bummer with the briefcase thing...
How about a couple of ideas like the poster asked for.
I don't know something like "Ever since Sparky got fixed I've kind of wondered..."

How about a toupee/ holster? Most folks wouldn't want to look directly at it to begin with!

[BluesBear]

I have had four different AFT field agents (FFL auditors) tell me face to face that the old fashioned Galco Wallet holsters were legal (2), were not legal and one admitted he didn't know.

It seems to be a gray area since the"feeling" is that since you still have to draw the "wallet" and hold it like a firearm that it is not actually a disguised firearm.*

Whereas a firearm hidden inside a briefcase and with the ability to be fired surreptitiously from therein would be considered to be an AOW.

However carrying a firearm inside a fanny pack and inserting your hand and firing the gun with it still inside maybe could perhaps in some cases possibly be interpreted as an AOW!




*As a matter of fact the state of Illinois has on at least one occasion deemed a High Standard Derringer in a Galco Wallet Holster for a to be a holstered firearm. And therefore the charge of possession of an unholstered firearm did NOT apply. (Of course they still did not refund my $50 "bail")

[Spreadfire Arms]

Hk UMP in Les Paul case.

hmmmm i just got a UMP45 in......let me see if it will look good in a guitar case :D

[rudolf]

French camera team and some hostage takers who wanted to be on TV. Well... the camera was more or less a gun holster, and the 'reporters' were special forces. They took some shots of the hostage taker :)
And yes, the real press was furious.

[Double Naught Spy]

Wow, that sounds like True Lies.

I have carried an officer's 1911 in a Diskman waist pack that had CD in big letters (compact disk, not Charles Daly).

With child #2, I carried a second gun and spare mags in the diaper bag. Later I carried diapers in the map pocket of my vest and found that diapers do a great job of hiding the outline of just about any handgun. I my case, it was a full-sized 1911.

Of course, for diaper-related concealed carry, you sort of have to have the kid along to complete "the look."

[Vern Humphrey]

Of course, for diaper-related concealed carry, you sort of have to have the kid along to complete "the look."


It sounded like such a good idea that I just knew there had to be a downside. :D

[TimboKhan]

Let's see... inside a book, an umbrella (shaft is the barrel)...


Who are you, The Penguin? Good look catching that pesky Batman.......

[jmorris]

The History channel has a program called “History of the Gun” one episode included homemade/makeshift firearms. One that stood out to me was a standard Zippo lighter that was converted into a single shot pistol. At 2.25 X1.5 X .5 it’s small enough to easily conceal, but then again you don’t need to hide a cigarette lighter. It might be legal when fitted with a rifled barrel.

[TallPine]

The ATF has stated that any device that allows the weapon to be fired without having to be withdrawn, that also obscures the identification of the weapon is an AOW.
So that would make coat pockets illegal....? :p

[BluesBear]

Not illegal, just an AOW if a gun was inside. :rolleyes:

[owsi26]

I'm not really a big .25 fan but I ocassionally carry a Bauer .25 in a wallet holster. I took it to a leather shop and had them add a piece of leather that covers the top of the gun. Looking down in one's back jean pocket, it look's just like a wallet yet is easy to draw from.