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Desertdog
October 8, 2005, 01:03 PM
I thought this would be good for a chuckle.

Wonder bra that stopped a bullet
By Nicole Martin
http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/10/08/nbra08.xml

An accountant whose bra saved her life when she was shot in the chest described yesterday how she looked down at the blood on her clothes and thought she was going to die.

Helen Kelly, 24, was outside an exhibition centre in the City of London in the early hours of the morning when a gun battle broke out between rival gangs who had attended the Urban Music Awards ceremony.

She collapsed to the ground after being struck in the crossfire, but escaped serious injury because the bullet hit the underwire of her bra and was deflected away from her chest and through her right breast.

She recalled yesterday how she and a friend, who had also attended the event last November at the Barbican Centre, started to run to safety after hearing gunshots.

"I did not really believe they were gunshots but I suddenly saw my friend running. I started to follow her and it was not until we got to the other side of a wall that I realised I had been hit," said Miss Kelly.

"I didn't think I had been shot. I thought I had been hit by a ricochet, a bit of wood or something. It didn't hurt very much. We carried on running and a girl in front of us was shouting, 'She's been shot'.

"That's when I realised I might have been shot. There was a lot of blood on my stomach, but I didn't know where it was coming from. I could see where the bullet had gone in but not where it came out."

Miss Kelly, in an interview with the London Evening Standard, added: "Then things started going through my mind. I sat down and thought, 'Well, this is it. I have done all my washing so my mum won't have to go through all my dirty clothes when I'm dead.' "

Miss Kelly, who was taken to the Royal London Hospital to have the bullet removed, recalled the incident as the gunman, Linton Ambursley, 29, of Lewisham, south London, was jailed for 12 years. He pleaded guilty to wounding with intent and firearms charges. His accomplice, Tyrone Headley, 28, of New Cross, south London, was jailed for two years after admitting assisting an offender.

The jury heard that Ambursley accidentally shot Miss Kelly as he exchanged fire with a gang he had argued with in the VIP area of the ceremony. Ambursley left the scene, but was stopped by police because Headley had forgotten to turn on the lights of the car he was driving.

Ben Gumpert, prosecuting, told the court that Miss Kelly had been left emotionally scarred by the event.

"She speaks of her fear while she was having hospital treatment and she speaks of her emotional instability," he said. "She is more aware of people in the street and has a feeling of unsafeness. Ordinary things make her feel angry and frustrated."

Sentencing Ambursley, Judge Richard Hone, QC, said: "You did in fact go out with a gun and a magazine with at least four bullets in it to the Barbican Centre, contemplating that there might be trouble which required the use of that gun.

"These were reckless actions which left your victim with a bullet in her chest which required surgery. She was entirely innocent of anything. This was truly terrifying to members of the public. It is only through great good fortune that it didn't result in a murder charge."

Speaking outside court, Det Chief Insp Robert Wishart said: "These two gangs displayed utter disregard for the safety of the public and themselves.

"They came up to the City of London carrying firearms with the obvious intention to cause harm to each other. It is miraculous that no other people were hurt."

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Vern Humphrey
October 8, 2005, 01:07 PM
But . . . but . . . but, they have gun control in England! How could anyone be shot in a country with almost total gun control?

There must be a mistake! :what:

Buck Snort
October 8, 2005, 01:15 PM
I agree, Vern. Those reporters just can't seem to get ANYTHING right!!

Fly320s
October 8, 2005, 01:15 PM
attended the Urban Music Awards ceremony... Barbican Centre
Maybe that should be the Barbarian Centre?

armoredman
October 8, 2005, 01:17 PM
Must have been a .25....

Vern Humphrey
October 8, 2005, 01:30 PM
Must have been a .25....

Or a 36 Triple-E with steel cable reinforcement. :what:

enfield303
October 8, 2005, 01:37 PM
New this year. Victoria's Secret introduces it's "Urban Warfare" line. An all-new line of undergarments designed to keep you safe on the "Mean Streets" of the big city. What sets this collection apart is level IV Kevlar panels in the cup. Gives outstanding support, and uncompromising protection durnig those pesky gangland gunfights. Protect your assets with Victoria's Secret. :D :evil:

imas
October 8, 2005, 01:38 PM
Wow its a good thing those gangs didn't have guns. Otherwise things really could have gotten ugly.

ghost squire
October 8, 2005, 02:29 PM
Whaddya expect it was a 9mm





:D :neener:

Agent P
October 8, 2005, 02:40 PM
Something similar happened to a woman in Michigan:

http://www.oprah.com/tows/slide/200305/20030528/tows_slide_20030528_08.jhtml


Victoria's Secret introduces it's "Urban Warfare" line. An all-new line of undergarments designed to keep you safe on the "Mean Streets" of the big city. What sets this collection apart is level IV Kevlar panels in the cup. Gives outstanding support, and uncompromising protection durnig those pesky gangland gunfights.

I would so buy that. :D

Nightfall
October 8, 2005, 03:51 PM
A gang shoot out? In London? Preposterous! Only our barbaric nation, with its complete lack of sensible gun control, could have such an event. European criminals with guns... handguns none the less! HA! :rolleyes:

Dionysusigma
October 8, 2005, 09:40 PM
Did anybody else get a mental picture of Maid Marian's chastity belt from "Robin Hood: Men in Tights" while reading that? :D

Vern Humphrey
October 8, 2005, 09:49 PM
Did anybody else get a mental picture of Maid Marian's chastity belt from "Robin Hood: Men in Tights" while reading that?

Sort of like a medevial version of Wonder Woman's bracelets. :D

Cliff47
October 9, 2005, 06:25 PM
Is this a defininition of 'Industrial Strength'??

Vern Humphrey
October 9, 2005, 06:29 PM
Is this a defininition of 'Industrial Strength'??

Reminds me of the Army's industrial strength feminine hygene product for lady truck drivers, the ******-and-a-half. :D

XLMiguel
October 9, 2005, 08:45 PM
As I understand it, the Wonder Bra is designed to allow less endowed women appear to be more endowed, making more of less, as it were (good old American productivity, er, marketing), but hardly 'industrial strength'. Dolly Parton's bra, OTOH, is "industrial strength".

To keep this gun related, let's just say the Wonder Bra makes a pair of "32's" pass for a pair of "38's" if the light is right and you have your beer goggles on :neener:

Spot77
October 9, 2005, 08:54 PM
Wow, more motivation to stop going to the gym and let my man-boobs continue to grow.

Ala Jerry Seinfeld's friend Kramer: "It's a bra for men"....."The "Bro"

Dionysusigma
October 10, 2005, 07:38 PM
... makes a pair of "32's" pass for a pair of "38's" if the light is right...
Happens to me all the time when I'm getting ammo for people. :scrutiny: :banghead:

Dragun
October 10, 2005, 09:44 PM
the joke is... when they take it off, you WONDER where they went, LOL.

Cactus
October 11, 2005, 12:28 AM
I went out with a few women who wore those bras. Even after dinner and drinks, nothing got through those things! :D

Alex45ACP
October 11, 2005, 01:17 AM
Helen Kelly, 24, was outside an exhibition centre in the City of London in the early hours of the morning when a gun battle broke out between rival gangs who had attended the Urban Music Awards ceremony.

Shocking.

:rolleyes:

bigun15
October 11, 2005, 01:25 AM
This is by far one of the funniest threads I've read in a long time.

Hacker15E
October 11, 2005, 07:04 AM
I see a business opportunity that the tactical clothing manufacturers need to jump on...kevlar bras.

Janitor
October 11, 2005, 07:11 AM
This is in fact one of the sillyest threads I've read in quite some time.

But I have to wonder if the new assult bra at VS comes in black, and if maybe they have an optional kevlar weave finish. Mmmmm - very sexy stuff.

Anyway, an attempt to stay on topic:
Sentencing Ambursley, Judge Richard Hone, QC, said: "You did in fact go out with a gun and a magazine with at least four bullets in it ...
I was under the impression that handguns are simply not allowed in the UK. Is there some significance to a mag loaded with four or more rounds?

lawson4
October 11, 2005, 07:14 AM
Quote:
Miss Kelly, in an interview with the London Evening Standard, added: "Then things started going through my mind. I sat down and thought, 'Well, this is it. I have done all my washing so my mum won't have to go through all my dirty clothes when I'm dead.' "

Looks like she has been watching the movies too much. She was fine until someone said she was shot; then she sat down and was ready to die. Just like the movies: if you're shot, you must fall down and die. She was willing to give up because someone said she was shot!! Sheesh.
With modern medical facilities usually only moments away, survival is as much a mental state as a physical one.

lawson4

iapetus
October 11, 2005, 08:26 AM
Janitor

Anyway, an attempt to stay on topic:
Quote:
Sentencing Ambursley, Judge Richard Hone, QC, said: "You did in fact go out with a gun and a magazine with at least four bullets in it ...

I was under the impression that handguns are simply not allowed in the UK.


As near as matters. (The law prohibits guns with a barrel <30cm, or a total length < 60cm, and all semi-autos except shotguns and .22 rimfire rifles. "Long-barreled revolvers" are therefore still legal. I think there are also special exemptions for vets etc who may need one to put animals down.)

http://www.met.police.uk/firearms-enquiries/f_prohb1.htm

Is there some significance to a mag loaded with four or more rounds?

Not that I know of. Probably just brought up to demonstrate how many people he could have shot.

Double Naught Spy
October 11, 2005, 09:12 AM
Did anyone think to ask how it was that if the Wonder Bra stopped the bullet, then how did the woman get shot in the breast?

The Wonder Bra did not stop the bullet, but supposedly only deflected it. However, I am not sure how it was that it was determined that the bra underwire actually deflected the round from her chest (torso) into her breast. My guess is that the trajectory was such that it wasn't going into the chest anyway or not at an angle that would have allowed for penetration to the organs. In other words, it was probably a glancing shot at best.

I have no doubt the underwire was hit and that the deflected round traveled into the breast, but I do doubt that anybody actually was able to determine that true original trajectory of the bullet relative to the woman's orientation.

Sinsaba
October 11, 2005, 09:24 AM
And the prosecuter said...

... "She is more aware of people in the street and has a feeling of unsafeness. ...

1) This is a bad thing?
2) You mean she feels as if the police CAN'T protect her?

Why, she might even vote to let the public be able to defend themselves!! That's just not on!!

Stand_Watie
October 11, 2005, 11:20 PM
As near as matters. (The law prohibits guns with a barrel <30cm, or a total length < 60cm, and all semi-autos except shotguns and .22 rimfire rifles. "Long-barreled revolvers" are therefore still legal. I think there are also special exemptions for vets etc who may need one to put animals down.)

"Long barreled revolvers" :D I like that I think the federal definition of a rifle here, in terms of length is 16 inches for the barrel and 26 inches overall. which if I'm converting right is only a couple inches longer. It sounds like your "long barreled revolvers" are like Buffalo Bill Cody's pistol, with like a 12 inch barrel. Not much good for concealment, but a lot better for accuracy than what I think of as a "long barreled revolver" which is anything above a 4 inch barrel.

Lo.Com.Denom
October 12, 2005, 10:23 AM
Those "long barreled revolvers" have to amount to a total of 60cm (24 inches) though, like iapetus said, so most of them sport a wire "wrist-brace" on the back, which looks like an old coat-hanger. Otherwise, they have to make up the length by either making it into a "revolver carbine", or by putting an even longer barrel on it! :rolleyes:
At a range I visited a few years ago, they had a Ruger Super Redhawk with a barrel that must have been nearly twenty inches long! :what: You could just hold it two-handed, in a kind of Weaver stance, but the barrel wobbled around so much that it was a bit of a losing battle...
Never got to fire it, though - I was just there enquiring about joining the club and the place closed down a couple of months later. :(

Mnemesyne
October 12, 2005, 10:34 AM
have you ever seen the tiny thin piece of wire used in the underwire of a bra? You're lucky if they still make it out of metal these days...and it's so flimsy that I've broken more then one (and I'm not that large chested).....although between the excessive padding and those new water bras......I suppose anything is possible


I'd laugh if Victoria's Secret came out with an urban bra......

Janitor
October 12, 2005, 10:41 AM
I'd laugh if Victoria's Secret came out with an urban bra......
Laugh?

See? Now this is what I'm talking about. The Urban Assult Bra. Could come in evil black (mmmmm) kevlar finish. They could even do Urban Camo, etc.

Larger size, titanium underwires of course.

Safe could be sexy.

Mnemesyne
October 12, 2005, 10:49 AM
ok ok..I admit it...I'd probably buy one :-) VS bras are the only ones that seem to last for longer then 30 days anymore....A kevlar bra you say....tempting...very tempting.....

Hawkmoon
October 12, 2005, 06:36 PM
Gangstas in England are such wimps, though.

Imagine -- Four bullets. This dude went out looking for a gunfight with FOUR whole bullets in his gun. My lord, in Newark they waste more than four just shooting up the neighborhood before they settle down to shooting each other.

nfl1990
October 12, 2005, 07:33 PM
You know if they just outlawed murder, and assault we'd be all set... oh wait they did.

Janitor
October 12, 2005, 07:34 PM
....A kevlar bra you say....tempting...very tempting.....
MmmHmmm.

And please ... let's not forget the titanium underwires for, er ... ummm ...full protection.

Very chic. Very tactical. :cool:

Zen21Tao
October 12, 2005, 07:37 PM
I'm surprised that they actually blamed the GUNMAN rather than blaming the GUN. In such a bastion of gun control you would think that the gun would have been charged as the main suspect and the man that used it as its (the gun) accomplice.

bigun15
October 12, 2005, 08:08 PM
If they made a kevlar bra, I'd buy one as a prank for one of my buddies. We have a history of that kinda thing though (one of my friends bought me a thong, and I bought her edible underwear).

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