[Phaetos]

Can you get an FFL just to get the dealer prices on guns? And if you can, is it reasonable to do it?

[Pietro Beretta]

How does one get a license?

Submit ATF Form 7, Application for License, or ATF Form 7CR, Application for License (Collector of Curios or Relics), with the appropriate fee in accordance with the instructions on the form. These forms may be obtained from the Firearms and Explosives Licensing Center in Atlanta, Georgia, (404) 417-2750, or your local ATF office.

For a Type 1
DEALER in firearms other than destructive devices.
(includes: rifles, shotguns, pistols, revolvers, gunsmith activities, and National
Firearms Act (NFA) weapons.)

The Cost is:
$ 200.00 for the first three (3) years.
$ 90.00 on renewal.

I am not sure how long it takes for them to approved you..

I also believe you must have a business license and be in a location where it is legal to have a business.

Yes you can get "dealer" prices but would it be worth it.... I am not sure. I know im some cases their are minimum orders.
Also buying in bulk can save you money... Example if you buy 1 Colt 1911A1 it will costs $600, however if you buy 20 each will only costs $488


I know I didnt really answer you question, since I personally dont know everything involved

[AlleninAlaska]

Let's see. State Business License, City Business License, FFL Fee, complying with all local and State Laws and Ordnances, secure firearms storage. Is it worth it just to get firearms at dealer cost, I don't think so. Besides that they won't give you the FFL if you tell them that is the only reason you want it.

[thatguy]

ATF won't issue license for personal use. As Allen stated, lots of headaches in having an FFL. Do not consider unless you plan on being a serious gun dealer.

[Sir Aardvark]

I live in California and for me to have my FFL I needed to have 7 seperate licenses, permits, and certificates.

It is an incredible hassle, so much so that I no longer sell firearms anymore.

Regardless, as mentioned previously, the ATF will not issue a license unless you intend to engage in a business.

[Phaetos]

I figured there would be tons of bueracracy involved. Just thought I'd ask.

[Phaetos]

Hmm .. apparently there isn't embedded HTML code allowed in signatures.

[spocahp anar]

Get a C&R license; they are $30, require no fingerprint card and are easily obtained. Only thing is it limits what you can buy, sorry no new guns..... :D

[AlleninAlaska]

Get a C&R license; they are $30, require no fingerprint card and are easily obtained. Only thing is it limits what you can buy, sorry no new guns


There are some firearms that are less than 50 years old that qualify as a C&R firearm. They are listed in the C&R Book that comes with the C&R License. These firearms are considerd to be of collector status. One that comes right too the top of my head is the Remington 150th Anniversary Model 742(I think it was this Model). All Pre-64 Winchesters are listed as C&R firearms. There are others out there also.

[Jim K]

I was told by BATFE that they will not issue a dealers' FFL unless the applicant has complied with all the local and state requirements for setting up a business, including meeting zoning requirements for the business.

When I wrote that on one site, someone promptly informed me that I was not only stupid, but a shill for BATFE, that he had a dealers' FFL and ordered tons of stuff for his buddies out of his home, made a lot of money and never paid taxes on it because he would never pay taxes or keep books or anything that would interfere with his rights.

I haven't heard from him for a while; I wonder if someone else was reading his stuff.

Jim

[AlleninAlaska]

When I wrote that on one site, someone promptly informed me that I was not only stupid, but a shill for BATFE, that he had a dealers' FFL and ordered tons of stuff for his buddies out of his home,

You do not have to have a store front in order to get an FFL. You can operate out of your dog house if you want to and local zoning laws permit it. I operate out of a shop in my backyard, but I guess that could be considered a store front. There are hundreds if not thousands of table top dealers in this country that have no store front. I know of 7 just in my little town of 5500 people. I don't worry about them as competition. I order the firearms for the Friends of The NRA Banquet and the Ducks Unlimited Banquet every year. The little table top dealers won't do them because they consider them competition. To me they are business in the future and they will buy accessories when stopping by to do the transfer and pickup their firearm. Accessories and used firearms is where the money is at. Too many internet auction sites that people can buy from. I work a full time 60 hour a week job besides doing another 30-40 in my backyard shop every week. The little table top dealers are not that dedicated.

[newfalguy101]

I didnt see it mentioned before so I will now:

One REQUIREMENT for having an 01 "dealers" license is that you operate a "for profit" business.

An 01 FFL is a BUSINESS license that allows you to operate a firearms business, no more and no less.

So, NO, you cannot legally get an 01 FFL for the sole purpose of adding to your collection.

[BluesBear]

You have to be actively engaged in the selling of firearms. If you are audited and they deem you not to be, your license can be revolked.