Who are you ? Never mind. We'll just scan your arm..


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bg
October 12, 2005, 11:47 AM
Couldn't believe it at first. If the Gov wanted to keep track of just
about anything on you, all the cops would have to do is scan your
arm ? How bout injecting any illegal caught here in the U.S with
this ? We all know this won't just be limited to the medical area. >
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NCP24
October 12, 2005, 12:09 PM
It wont be long now.

dasmi
October 12, 2005, 12:19 PM
Believe it.
Also believe that I will never, ever be tagged like cattle.

MrTuffPaws
October 12, 2005, 12:20 PM
In CA, they already take a DNA sample if they retain you. No arrest or conviction needed.

sumpnz
October 12, 2005, 12:20 PM
I've got an RFID card that goes along with my photo ID badge for work. I have to use it to get into, and out of all buildings at work, and many rooms within each building. I don't mind it so much since it's only really used to track where I am while at work, it has no ability to really do much else, and the job is pretty good. Though, I'd rather have the magnetic stripe that was used at the last place I worked (you had to swipe it like a credit card for access). So long as they never require an implantable chip I'm fine with the RFID for work ID purposes. I can always take my card off and leave it at home or in the car or whatever if I want to.

dolanp
October 12, 2005, 12:22 PM
If you want to know what the world will be like in the future, watch Gattaca. Everything seems to head that direction.

R.H. Lee
October 12, 2005, 01:03 PM
Yeah, and when the time comes everybody will just roll over and submit. Just like social security numbers for newborns, fingerprints for driver's licenses, AWB and other gun restrictions,searches at airports, PA I & II, etc., et yada, et :barf:

We're a nation of helpless wimps.

Highland Ranger
October 12, 2005, 01:16 PM
So where's the line?

Has it already been crossed?

geekWithA.45
October 12, 2005, 01:37 PM
Where's the line?

When internal RFID is required:

At birth
To Vote
To purchase anything
To Get on a plane or train
To Obtain any sort of license
To pass into any public area

Refirignis
October 12, 2005, 01:50 PM
I'll never get one.

From elsewhere (exact date unknown, but I stored this chunk of information back in January 2005):
One passage in particular caught our eye:

Some current technology could have helped here. Here's one possible scenario:

The VeriChip is about the size of a grain of rice, virtually undetectable and practically indestructible once inserted under the skin – usually in your right hand or forehead. The chip has a special polyethylene sheath that helps skin bond to it, so that it stays in place.

Since the chip has no battery, there are no chemicals to worry about and the chip never “runs down” – its expected life is up to 20 years.

Tourists entering a country are scanned at the immigration checkpoint. They can pay for their taxis, groceries and hotel rooms with just a swipe of the hand. As they travel throughout their holiday destination, they leave behind an electronic trail which is recorded not only in this country but also in the home credit card company.

Now let us turn to Revelation 13:16-17

He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.
So, anyone here who was previously fine with implanted chips, still fine with implanted chips?

geekWithA.45
October 12, 2005, 02:18 PM
I didn't see that post indicating the prefered site for insertion was hand or forehead, and I'm skeptical. Link?

The normal place for a verichip is in the arm. You need somewhere with a bit of meat.

Hands and Heads are quite bony, and aren't good sites. Furthermore, I'm certain that the folks @ verichip have read revelations, and take special pains to avoid precisely that association you mention.

All our dogs are tagged, and I was present for several of the taggings. The injection needle was almost 1/8 of an inch, so I find no substance in verichip's claims that insertion would be "painless".

thorn726
October 12, 2005, 02:22 PM
wow- 20,000 incidents of infant switching?!?!

i realy hope that is faulty exagerated data.

what a nightmare.
a braclet id for babies, fine. an implanted chip? scary.
and what happens when it does burn out in 20 years???

soylent green? ??

Turtle Club
October 12, 2005, 02:31 PM
If this happens as much as I hate to say: I am moving to France.

Beethoven
October 12, 2005, 03:02 PM
The movie Terminator 2 springs to mind.......


I will NEVER allow anyone to implant any sort of a device on or in my body.

Shipwreck
October 12, 2005, 03:06 PM
I will NEVER allow anyone to implant any sort of a device on or in my body.

Hope ya never need a pacemaker :neener: :neener:

Chipperman
October 12, 2005, 05:07 PM
I implant chips like those all the time in dogs and cats. As stated above, it's a pretty large needle. Pciture a microchip the size of a grain of rice. Now picture a needle big enough for that grain of rice to pass THROUGH THE INSIDE.

Most animals take the injection well, but I don't think too many people will regard it as "relatively painless"

longrifleman
October 12, 2005, 05:10 PM
VeriChip version 3.1 will be implanted in the back of your neck, and will also have a small explosive charge built in. Better double check the frequency on your garage door opener. :barf:

Chrontius
October 12, 2005, 09:49 PM
If you want to know what the world will be like in the future, watch Gattaca. Everything seems to head that direction. I tend to think the future will be more like Bubblegum Crisis. The military's already working on the powered armor, and Genom could be Micro$oft, Daewoo, or any number of other conglomerate that winds up too big for its breeches.

So, anyone here who was previously fine with implanted chips, still fine with implanted chips? Yes. Just not this one. I plan to have a custom smartgun built (The 2020 smartgun, not the NJ one -- neural trigger, video feed, barrel launched adaptive munitions, etc.) when I retire, which I think is about when the tech will be mature ^_^

All our dogs are tagged, and I was present for several of the taggings. The injection needle was almost 1/8 of an inch, so I find no substance in verichip's claims that insertion would be "painless". Anything's painless with enough morphine. Freaking *owch* dude.

and what happens when it does burn out in 20 years???

soylent green? ?? You're thinking of Logan's Run, I think.

Most animals take the injection well, but I don't think too many people will regard it as "relatively painless" How the hell is that possible?

Ryder
October 12, 2005, 11:31 PM
If the Gov wanted to keep track

Didn't seem to do them much good with Tim McVeigh. He claimed to have been implanted with a device. Wasn't there rumor of a field trip to a nearby airforce base to have it removed after he was arrested for the bombing? Who knows? I have read unrelated articles on mind control experiments using similar devices though.

They can forget about me playing that game.

c_yeager
October 13, 2005, 01:48 AM
a braclet id for babies, fine. an implanted chip? scary

The chips for infant security/tracking are *not* implanted. They are on a tag that is clipped to the umbilical cord or to a wrist band which is removed upon release. The entire point of the system is ease of use, having to perform a surgical proceedure is not an easy way to perform patient identification.

As far as I know the only impantable application for healthcare is in cases where at-risk indivuals *want* to have the chip to provide a readily available medical history. In essense its an advanced "medic-alert" bracelet.

RFID chips are only detectable at a short range the only way you could be tracked with one is if the guys in the black helicopters set up monitoring stations every ten feet.

gutter scout
October 13, 2005, 06:02 AM
I'll implant a 7.62 mm identification device in anyone who tells me I must have one.

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