Farrakhan's gonna start a riot in DC


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haole_boySS
October 14, 2005, 11:36 AM
It amazes me what he can spew and still have people follow him. His latest was yesterday when he clamed that the "white" government used explosives on the NO leeves to flood the poor "black" community.

He is speaking at the Million Man March anniversary tomorrow on the DC Mall. Riot maybe???

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/13/AR2005101301369.html?sub=AR

Farrakhan Offers Anniversary Message of Defiance, Unity
Leader Urges Blacks to Share Strength

By Robert E. Pierre Hamil R. Harris
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Friday, October 14, 2005; Page B01

Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan said yesterday that America remains rife with racism that keeps too many blacks poor, uneducated and out of work and that to overcome it, black Americans must unite and draw strength from one another.

Farrakhan, in Washington for events to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the Million Man March, including a rally tomorrow on the Mall, blasted federal anti-poverty efforts over the last 30 years as hypocritical attempts to either win votes or temporarily pacify the downtrodden. But, in keeping with his self-help message, Farrakhan said that before any progress can be made, black people must spend less and produce more rather than immediately seek government help.



"This time, the day after the march is when the real work begins," says Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, shown in January this year. (By Nikki Kahn -- The Washington Post)

Graphic
Plans for March Commemoration
The Millions More Movement, marking the 10th anniversary of the Million Man March, will fill much of the Mall tomorrow for speeches and music, starting with drummers at 5:30 a.m. and ending in the afternoon with an address by Minister Louis Farrakhan.

"We're tired of begging others to do for us what we have the capacity to do for ourselves," he said. "If you don't have a desire to help yourself, nobody will help you."

His comments came during a wide-ranging news conference at the National Press Club in which he touched on police brutality, the state of the education system and his own personal growth over the decades.

Looking well after a bout with prostate cancer, Farrakhan was characteristically defiant and blunt -- decrying the Bush administration and chiding his critics for seeking to have other black leaders repudiate him for remarks they perceive as sexist, homophobic and anti-Semitic. His rebuttal was this: Mind your own business.

"Go talk to black people," he said. "We are in the room because our people need our unity. It's our business. And we're going to take care of our business."

Those critics include the Anti-Defamation League, which, on its Web site yesterday, termed the event a "sideshow." David Bernstein, Washington director of the American Jewish Committee, said that Farrakhan's involvement mars the event, regardless of its purpose.

"It taints everybody," Bernstein said. "We think it's regrettable."

Farrakhan moved this week to soothe a rift within the movement over attitudes toward gay men and lesbians. In July, the Rev. Willie Wilson, pastor of Union Temple Baptist Church in Southeast Washington and the national executive director for tomorrow's gathering, said in a sermon at his church that lesbians were about to take over and that black women who earn more than men are partly to blame for breaking up families -- notions widely criticized. But this week, Farrakhan offered Keith Boykin, president of the National Black Justice Coalition, which advocates for gay rights, a speaking slot on tomorrow's program. There was no gay representation among speakers 10 years ago, a source of estrangement in the black gay, lesbian and bisexual community ever since.

"It is our most sincere hope that this portends a new chapter in the story of how we liberated our community from the prison of homophobia," said H. Alexander Robinson, executive director of the coalition, in a statement. "This chapter is about reconciliation, education and acceptance of the gifts and talents that gay people of African descent have and will continue to contribute to the quest to lift up our people."

Organizers said yesterday that 3,000 buses and tens of thousands of cars will converge on Washington beginning tonight for tomorrow's gathering, called the Millions More Movement. Speeches and music begin at 5:30 a.m. A series of events at Freedom Plaza, sponsored by black gays and lesbians, will also take place.

Minister Benjamin Chavis Muhammad, who was the national director of the Million Man March, said he was unsure if the numbers will rival those of 1995, when hundreds of thousands showed up.

But Muhammad said the goal 10 years ago was to draw as many participants to the Mall as possible, and this time the idea is to mobilize for the long term. Work groups have been meeting for months and have promised to provide specific tasks and direction for attendees to take back to their communities. Unlike a decade ago, Muhammad said, he has compiled e-mail addresses and phone numbers for each of the organizing committees.

"This is not a joy ride," Muhammad said, referring to the joyous nature of events surrounding the Million Man March. "People are coming out of desperation. They want a better quality of life."



"This time, the day after the march is when the real work begins," says Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, shown in January this year. (By Nikki Kahn -- The Washington Post)

Graphic
Plans for March Commemoration
The Millions More Movement, marking the 10th anniversary of the Million Man March, will fill much of the Mall tomorrow for speeches and music, starting with drummers at 5:30 a.m. and ending in the afternoon with an address by Minister Louis Farrakhan.

The aftermath of Hurricane Katrina on the Gulf Coast has become a rallying point. The slow response by federal agencies and the tens of thousands of people left stranded in New Orleans-- most of them black -- showed how programs to alleviate poverty have failed, Farrakhan said.

Like other black leaders, Farrakhan said that relief efforts were slow because most of those who needed help were poor and black.

Farrakhan also reiterated a concern that has been voiced by large numbers of evacuees: the possibility that the levees were intentionally blown up, sacrificing poor people to save those better off. Asked if people would think he was "nuts" for raising the issue, Farrakhan said, "It is the responsibility of government to prove the rumor false."

"People will say, 'Oh that's preposterous. There goes Farrakhan again,' " he said.

But he reminded people that blacks and Native Americans have plenty of reason to be suspicious of government, and he mentioned the Tuskegee experiment, in which medical treatment was withheld from black men with syphilis in a U.S. Public Health Service study of the long-term effects of the disease, making them involuntary guinea pigs. Farrakhan said that while he has moved away from an entirely black nationalist agenda, he has not forgotten the wrongs of the past.

"I have not always loved America," he told reporters yesterday. "I saw the wickedness of American hypocrisy toward black people."

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cuchulainn
October 14, 2005, 11:43 AM
There's not going to be a riot in D.C.

Mongo the Mutterer
October 14, 2005, 11:52 AM
Calypso Louie at it again.

Maybe the ten people attending the "million man march" will riot... Who cares?

Camp David
October 14, 2005, 11:54 AM
Farrakhan is one of many black leaders that function primarily to rile up blacks and point the finger at others for the race's perceived failings... rarely if ever will alledged leaders such as Farrakhan mention accomplishments; they dwell on failures and who they attribute to blame... It is for this reason this weekend's assembly of Farrakhan and Company in Washington on the Mall could get ugly... Farrakhan prefaced this weekend meeting with a very bizarre appeance on Fox mentioning his "vision" in a spaceship a short time ago... He is also hot on his theory that flooding damage in New Orleans was caused by, in his words, "the newly arrived White Race" to damage the Blacks... It is for this reason that Farrakhan is surely no reverend or religious individual in any respects but a trouble-maker of the first order... Race relations need not such people to improve...:(

silverbird
October 14, 2005, 12:41 PM
Farrakhan is one of many black leaders that function primarily to rile up blacks and point the finger at others for the race's perceived failings... rarely if ever will alledged leaders such as Farrakhan mention accomplishments; they dwell on failures and who they attribute to blame... It is for this reason this weekend's assembly of Farrakhan and Company in Washington on the Mall could get ugly... Farrakhan prefaced this weekend meeting with a very bizarre appeance on Fox mentioning his "vision" in a spaceship a short time ago... He is also hot on his theory that flooding damage in New Orleans was caused by, in his words, "the newly arrived White Race" to damage the Blacks... It is for this reason that Farrakhan is surely no reverend or religious individual in any respects but a trouble-maker of the first order... Race relations need not such people to improve...:(
All very excellent points.

If there are riots, it won't be because controversial ideas are being talked about, it will be "the man" holding him down.

He is more divisive than any law or practice that has ever been acted on.

The Grand Inquisitor
October 14, 2005, 12:47 PM
Just for a second - imagine if this were a white group, or a Jewish group, or a Chinese group saying the things these idiots say. Just imagine if it were any other group saying that it were blacks who came to Earth on a spaceship in order to oppress white people.


Imagine the hand-ringing and bellowing.

The Nation of Islam is nothing short of racist, bigoted, and sorely out of date. I'm glad the Anti-Defamation Leauge and the Southern Poverty Law Center are calling these idiots out, but there needs to be more work done to show what scumbags these bastards really are.

rick_reno
October 14, 2005, 12:52 PM
It doesn't surprise me he can still get people to follow him - current polling among blacks for Bush shows his support at 2% (which I believe is a record low for any President with any ethic group since they started polling). They're looking for a leader and Louis FartinaCan fills the void.

odysseus
October 14, 2005, 12:59 PM
It's his job; without it - what would he do?

Lupinus
October 14, 2005, 01:00 PM
Let him start a riot.

Then allow gun owners onto rooftops for target practice.

Derek Zeanah
October 14, 2005, 01:05 PM
I thought "the truth" according to Nation of Islam was that a careless black scientist created white people, and we got out of control...

I've got my Malcolm X Biography somewhere here...

Lupinus
October 14, 2005, 01:07 PM
Well he was taken on a space ship after all

Anal probing can do that to a guy.

mete
October 14, 2005, 01:08 PM
Sadly he was on C-Span this morning, I didn't bother watching. Appearance on TV especially on C-Span gives him a certain amount of credibility which he doesnt deserve !! He has always been a phoney and has caused much hatred by the blacks to the whites . He should stick to music ,he actually has some talent there .

shermacman
October 14, 2005, 01:11 PM
Calypso Louie:
"We're tired of begging others to do for us what we have the capacity to do for ourselves," he said. "If you don't have a desire to help yourself, nobody will help you."

Any one here care to translate?

Rob1035
October 14, 2005, 01:37 PM
The things these supposed 'leaders' say and do "for the betterment of their people" really really blows my mind

Navy joe
October 14, 2005, 01:57 PM
blasted federal anti-poverty efforts over the last 30 years as hypocritical attempts to either win votes or temporarily pacify the downtrodden. But, in keeping with his self-help message, Farrakhan said that before any progress can be made, black people must spend less and produce more rather than immediately seek government help...."If you don't have a desire to help yourself, nobody will help you."


Hey, it's the end of the world, I agree with loonie Louie! I think that Federal aid is just vote pandering, something you can promise to fight for on election year. Help yourself? What a radical concept. Now if he could just delete everything else he has ever said. Still a racist though.

DeseoUnTaco
October 14, 2005, 02:03 PM
I thought "the truth" according to Nation of Islam was that a careless black scientist created white people, and we got out of control...
That is correct.

According to NoI, the white race was created by an evil black scientist named Yakub.

It took six hundred years for Yakob to fully whiten his creations. This was achieved under a despotic regime on the island of Patmos. The reasons for Yakub's actions are unclear. His progeny are destined to rule for six thousand years before the original black peoples of the world regain dominance, a process that began in 1914.
Yakub is derived from Jacob, so this evil scientist was also the creator of the Jews.

They also believe that we came from a UFO called the Mother Plane.

Gee, and they wonder why they don't have warm and friendly relations with other Moslem groups.

R.H. Lee
October 14, 2005, 02:20 PM
Bigotry and racism is ok as long as it comes from the black 'leadership'. The double standard is alive and well.

Camp David
October 14, 2005, 02:46 PM
What is so sad about this whole issue is that Bush has actually been a more proactive supporter of minorities than Clinton, in both federal programs and appointments to high office!

NO I AM NOT KIDDING!

Bush has spent more on entitlement spending than Clinton
Bush has appointed more minorities than Clinton

Don't believe me? Go and check!

These are facts!

Farrakhan should be praising Bush!

:rolleyes:

one-shot-one
October 14, 2005, 02:48 PM
Race Pimp.

Declaration Day
October 14, 2005, 03:22 PM
Imagine the conniption I had when my daughter came home from her third grade class during black history month, having been taught that Farrakhan and Rev. Jesse Jacka$$ are civil rights leaders.

White Horseradish
October 14, 2005, 03:44 PM
Let him start a riot.

Then allow gun owners onto rooftops for target practice.
What gun owners? It's DC...

zzzarkt
October 14, 2005, 03:57 PM
What gun owners? It's DC...


They would have to import them from Virginia. I say let him and his "followers" rant and rave. Only those foolish to begin with will believe his tripe. To those smart enough to recognize garbage when they see it his rantings will only serve to further alienate him from rational people, regardless of color.

Bruce H
October 14, 2005, 09:23 PM
At least Farrakhan and Jesse aren't on welfare. At least I don't think they are. With these two scum sucking bottom feeders, who knows. They are both prime examples of how well hate pays if you are the proper shade.

Cosmoline
October 14, 2005, 09:29 PM
He was the fellow who plotted the assassination of Malcolm X. I can't undersand how anyone can be stupid enough to follow him. I've seen him interviewed and he always comes off like a slimeball.

Sam
October 14, 2005, 09:40 PM
Hope he gets a good riot going.
Maybe we will get lucky and they will burn the whole place down. The big incendiary eraser.
Then we can start over from scratch.

Sam

Standing Wolf
October 14, 2005, 09:46 PM
If you don't have a desire to help yourself, nobody will help you.

No argument here.

Dionysusigma
October 14, 2005, 10:26 PM
... Americans must unite and draw strength from one another.
"We're tired of begging others to do for us what we have the capacity to do for ourselves," he said. "If you don't have a desire to help yourself, nobody will help you."

And that is all I agree with.

Farrakhan also reiterated a concern that has been voiced by large numbers of evacuees: the possibility that the levees were intentionally blown up, sacrificing poor people to save those better off. Asked if people would think he was "nuts" for raising the issue, Farrakhan said, "It is the responsibility of government to prove the rumor false."
Farrakhan is possibly a KKK member, and his agenda is to incite retalitory attacks from the KKK and the Neo-Nazi movement back onto the Nation of Islam and blacks in general, playing both sides toward the middle. Meanwhile, he sits back and rakes in the cash supporting his stance.

It is the responsibility of Farrakhan to prove this rumor false.

Borachon
October 14, 2005, 10:30 PM
His latest was yesterday when he clamed that the "white" government used explosives on the NO leeves to flood the poor "black" community

Actually, this is one of the few things I've ever heard Farrahkhan say that I could agree with.

Only makes sense from an economic standpoint. The lake is flooding from runoff waters. The waters around NO are rising. The levee might break one way and flood the richer areas and the French Quarter (esp if a structural engineer was telling you that this side looked bad) or it might break and flood the poorer side of town that brings in zero tourist dollars.

Would you like to leave the direction it's going to move up to Nature's whim? Or would you get proactive and blow the levee so it drains into the part of town you can most live without....economically speaking?

So it wouldn't surprise me a bit if someone in the gov made the decision to salvage the best of a bad situation.

crucible
October 14, 2005, 10:33 PM
So it wouldn't surprise me a bit if someone in the gov made the decision to salvage the best of a bad situation.

Then you're as silly as Farrakkan.

C-

Cosmoline
October 14, 2005, 11:08 PM
It's pure chance that the 9th ward is also the lowest lying part of NO most exposed to flood danger.

The Quarter was not spared because of the location of the break, but because it and the wealthier areas of town were BUILT ON HIGHER GROUND. Besides, if you're going to suggest that the Bush administration burst the levy to save the QUARTER... well just THINK about it for a second.

Besides, WHAT government? From where? With what? Are you insane enough to suggest that the federal government spent millions and risked exposure to send a team of SEALS into NOLA to detonate a massive mine for the benefit of some slightly less poor people on the other side of the levy? Or did the mayor of New Orleans do it?

GunGoBoom
October 14, 2005, 11:28 PM
the "white" government used explosives on the NO leeves to flood the poor "black" community.

I'll be darned....Mayor Nagin has a heck of a good tan then. And what, praytell, exactly, is the "Nation of Islam" and when was he elected its leader? And what are its geographical borders? I guess the mother ship has to take you to it.

Art Eatman
October 15, 2005, 01:22 AM
I've always been amused by the irony of "Nation of Islam" as a name of the group. Seems rather strange to honor those who were most responsible for selling slaves to the folks who then brought them to the Americas.

Heck, who are still doing the slave trade thing even today!

:), Art

beerslurpy
October 15, 2005, 01:39 AM
Beleive me, he is welcome to start a riot in lily-white Spring Hill, Florida if he wants.

He better bring a million men though, or he is gonna run out really quick. All they have to do is move the machine gun shoot from the sportsmen's club to the wal-mart supercenter. Spawn camp ftw!

*sorry for the online FPS references
spawn camp = kill the enemy where they enter the map, so they dont even have time to get oriented- they just enter and are instantly mowed down or killed with grenades. This is generally viewed as unfair, since it massacres the opposing team and denies them the ability to play the game, except in the most technical sense.
ftw= for the win, a winning strategy

shermacman
October 15, 2005, 08:01 AM
Borachon
Congrats! You have won the Purple Shroud and Nike Sneaker award!
All you have to do to collect your prize is mix up some KoolAid using Jim Jones' famous recipe, place a purple shroud over your face and wait for the Mother Ship!
Good luck!

horge
October 15, 2005, 09:29 AM
Farrakhan prefaced this weekend meeting with a very bizarre appearance on Fox
mentioning his "vision" in a spaceship a short time ago...

Spaceship?







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:D

albanian
October 15, 2005, 09:42 PM
I wonder what the blacks are going to do when the Mexicans run our country?:D How are they going to blaim all their problems on the Mexicans? The whites and the blacks will have to join sides against the Mexicans.

Seriously, once the Mexicans take over, I may just be able to get to do some of that rioting of my own. It looks like fun but since I pay taxes, I just can't afford it. Once I am living off the "Man" and I am in the minority, I am going to loot me some Nikes and some T.V.s. Sweet!:D

another okie
October 15, 2005, 09:48 PM
Apparently it is actually true that the government of New Orleans blew levies back in the 1920s or so to flood one neighborhood and spare another, so while it seems very unlikely to have happened in 2005 with a black government in New Orleans, and you can't prove a negative, it's not quite as nuts as it sounds.

albanian
October 15, 2005, 09:51 PM
If people are really racist and don't want blacks to ever succeed, they should love Farrakhan. His ideas are sure to keep the blacks from ever really rising up and becomming equal. As long as you spend all you time blaiming others, you will never see the point in working hard and making something of yourself. I am not saying that blacks have all the same chances that middle class white people have, they don't but life is unfair. They won't get anywhere by joining the ranks of Farrakhan. They need better leaders that will inspire them to overcome and not to be bitter.

There is a black Democrate from IL. that sounded positive. I forget his name but he seemed like a better role model than Farrakhan or Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton. His name is like "Obama" or somthing.

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