Ohio: "Group reaches out to teens to halt gun violence"


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cuchulainn
March 30, 2003, 10:23 AM
Interesting forumla:

1) Gather kids.
2) Scare the bleep out of them with a gun.
3) Note that there is a "tinge of despair" in the discussion (Of couse, it had nothing to do with step 2).

That said. I'm glad this didn't become a "We need gun control" fest.

from the Cincinnati Enquirer

http://enquirer.com/editions/2003/03/30/loc_stopguns30.htmlSunday, March 30, 2003
Group reaches out to teens to halt gun violence
Ideas sought at Avondale session

By Sheila McLaughlin
The Cincinnati Enquirer

Representatives from Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center and African-American firefighters and police officers reached out to teens in one of the city's most violent neighborhoods Saturday in an effort to stop gun violence.

A group of about 150 teens, some youngsters as young as 5, parents and others gathered at Peace Baptist Church on Avondale's Rockdale Avenue for a two-hour program called "Stop the Funerals."

It was aimed at opening a dialog with teens and soliciting their ideas.

"We need to find out what it is we can do as adults...to teach them some other way instead of using a gun," said Willie Jones, a Cincinnati firefighter who also is coordinator for the hospital's Youth Injury Prevention Team.

"We need to hear more of where they are at, where they are coming from."

The event touched off with a jarring scenario in which a 19-year-old jumped up in the middle of the crowd, brandished the pistol at a small group, yelling and threatening to shoot them. Meant to jolt the audience into reality, it did just that [cuchulainn: "Um, no, it scared them with a fake attack"]. Several youngsters started to run from the sanctuary and an adolescent girl fell to the floor crying hysterically.

The message from teens who spoke out Saturday was tinged with a sense of despair.

Some blamed escalating violence on a lack of parenting, and said churches needed to offer more activities to keep kids off the streets and on the right track.

"I don't know what can be done," said 17-year-old Jerritt Hayes, of Avondale. "You can say a few words to get someone to put their gun down, but another person is picking one up. As you take one away, another one is coming. I don't see no way to stop it."

Scotty Johnson, president of the Sentinels Police Association, composed mainly of African-American Cincinnati officers, said police alone cannot stop the violence. He stressed that the teens must take responsibility to bring it to an end.

Kevin Hillman, 16, a Roger Bacon junior from the North Avondale area, felt it was important to be there Saturday. He was concerned that the shootings, the majority of which are black-on-black crime, were unjustly painting African-American males in a bad light.

Jones, who grew up in Avondale and is now raising his own family there, began planning the teen summit after seeing statistics that showed a startling spike in the number of gunshot wounds being treated in the emergency room at University Hospital. The hospital routinely treats gunshot victims age 16 and up, Jones said. The majority of victims were African-Americans.

Saturday's session was the first of three programs. A second likely will be held outside in summer on a neighborhood street, where hospital staff and the others will teach conflict resolution skills, Jones said.

E-mail smclaughlin@enquirer.com

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FPrice
March 30, 2003, 10:30 AM
If any group did that to my kid I would go to that church and say two parayers.

The first prayer would be that I could hold my temper in check.

The second prayer would be for the soul of the person who thought this up if the first prayer failed.

That was the height of stupidity. People want to do everything but teach their kids right vs. wrong from the moment that they are born. THAT is the best way to prevent violence of any sort.

Greg L
March 30, 2003, 10:46 AM
They are lucky that CCW hasn't come to Ohio yet. It would be interesting to see them explain just why a parent who was there watching things blew away the "actor"

Greg

cuchulainn
March 30, 2003, 10:49 AM
Greg L,

Indeed. Indeed.

Coronach
March 30, 2003, 11:16 AM
Or that there were not any cops in attendance. I would have shot.

MORONS.

Mike

BamBam
March 30, 2003, 11:25 AM
Several youngsters started to run from the sanctuary and an adolescent girl fell to the floor crying hysterically.
This was a moronic exercise that showed the youngsters that if they get a gun they can have power over people. No different than rap videos glamorizing gang life by showing fancy cars, women, money, etc.

El Tejon
March 30, 2003, 11:32 AM
How to end the violence? O.K., how about honoring education, employment and the two parent family?

Of course, this would destroy the influence of the Democratic Party over the African-American community. Unlikely to happen.:(

Gusgus
March 30, 2003, 12:12 PM
Fake attack or not, I'd be pressing for “making terror threats” and “assault” charges to be filed. Was the gun real? Was it legally owned? Was the 19 year old actor in legal possession? Was the weapon illegally concealed? Is it legal to possess a firearm in a church building? Looks like a ton of weapon charges could also be added. Time to give these idiots a taste of their own laws.

Coronach
March 30, 2003, 12:46 PM
I would think that this would run afoul of several sections of the ORC...though I don't have my copy of that tome in front of me at the moment.

Mike

MeekandMild
March 30, 2003, 12:47 PM
El Tejon

Absolutely. The Democratic Party has an uninterrupted record of supporting Black slavery from the time of its inception. It has just changed the methods in keeping with the times. :scrutiny:

Wildalaska
March 30, 2003, 01:30 PM
Some blamed escalating violence on a lack of parenting, and said churches needed to offer more activities to keep kids off the streets and on the right track.

At least they werent blaming guns, thats a start..

WildshowempicturesofgunshotwoundstooAlaska

Standing Wolf
March 30, 2003, 06:11 PM
"I don't know what can be done," said 17-year-old Jerritt Hayes, of Avondale. "You can say a few words to get someone to put their gun down, but another person is picking one up. As you take one away, another one is coming. I don't see no way to stop it."

Life is just a cigarette butt in a gutter, I guess. </sarcasm>

cool45auto
March 30, 2003, 06:14 PM
I don't have the words. I think this'll do::rolleyes:

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