Hi Point selling a .45 for $179!


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Quartus
March 30, 2003, 01:57 PM
Any experience with their quality of late? I haven't noticed them for years, and they were always a 3rd rate company, at best. But a lifetime warranty?


Any RECENT experience out there in THR land?

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Justin
March 30, 2003, 04:32 PM
Call me a snob, but I wouldn't buy a hipoint. Unsafe to have one in the chamber, horrid trigger pull, and dubious engineering. (It's a blow-back chambered in .45 ACP! Who thought that was a good idea?:scrutiny: )
For $179, you could pick up a Makarov and a box or two of ammo.

jsalcedo
March 30, 2003, 04:59 PM
I handled one recently. It was bulky and kind of junky.

However, if you want a backup car gun or a bathroom gun it might do the job.

DeputyVaughn
March 30, 2003, 05:20 PM
The last Hi-Point 45acp thing I saw would not qualify as a pistol. It was more like a brick that might also fire 45acp rounds.

Scott

gryphon
March 30, 2003, 05:27 PM
The only thing that keeps em away from them is having the magazine release at the bottom of the grip. If/when they change that, I'd consider picking one up. I have the 9mm pistol and the 9mm carbine, both have been very accurate and reliable.

Backwoods
March 30, 2003, 05:37 PM
I've never owned one of these but I sometimes see people at the range shooting them. As clunky as they are, I haven't seen a malfunction in the limited number of them I've seen used.

I still wouldn't buy one except to maybe take to some sandy middle east location from which I wouldn't be able to bring it back. I don't think it'd hurt as much, dropping one of these in an amnesty box prior to ETS'ing, as compared to a 1911 or Beretta!

Don in Ohio

cool45auto
March 30, 2003, 07:04 PM
:rolleyes:

Blackhawk
March 30, 2003, 07:52 PM
Tropical Z may have one.... :rolleyes:

Anybody willing to buy one? A blowback .45 must be something, but count me out.

Quartus
March 30, 2003, 09:59 PM
What have you got against .45 blowbacks? I'd be delighted to have one!


The 'one' being a Thompson in 1945 vintage. :D



Pro'ly wouldn't turn down a grease gun, neither!

blades67
March 30, 2003, 10:12 PM
I've only seen two hi-points at the range in five years. Niether of those two guns managed to fire an entire magazine without jamming. Based on what I have read about them, and witnessed at the range, I would never buy one.:barf:

seeker_two
March 31, 2003, 06:40 AM
Too many good used guns in that price range I'd take before considering a Hi-Point (I had a choice this weekend b/t a $155 Firestar 9mm & Bulgie Mak for $149---chose the Firestar)...

If you're looking for a cheap .45, check out the Ballester-Molina pistols in SHOTGUN NEWS first. Much better quality...

hboy35
March 31, 2003, 09:48 AM
where did you see the Bulgarian Mak? I am also in central tx and looking.

Quartus
March 31, 2003, 10:39 AM
I wasn't really looking seriously - I just got a Sistema last year, and I'm delighted with it. A good shooting .1911 with a touch of history for $250 is hard to argue with.

I was wondering about the Hi Points because I remember them as being junk, which doesn't square with a lifetime parts and labor warranty, but it DOES square with a $179 price tag!

Moslty I was wondering if they had made a serious change in their quality from years back. From the comments here, it seems the answer is NO.

seeker_two
March 31, 2003, 11:31 AM
where did you see the Bulgarian Mak? I am also in central tx and looking.

Praco Gun & Pawn
2201 West Waco Drive
Waco, TX 76707
254-753-5511

I'd hurry..:evil:

Tropical Z
March 31, 2003, 11:48 AM
First off,theres NOTHING wrong with Hi-Point triggers.If youve shot a Hi-Power youve shot a Hi-Point!
Second i lost my Sistema:barf: long ago and kept and shoot and LOVE my compensated 9mm Hi-Point RACE GUN!
Third,Hi-Points in their current form are reliable and accurate-theres nothing sweeter than shooting happily while the Springfield 1911 in the next lane plays jam city!
Hi-Points RRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEE!!!
:neener:

denfoote
March 31, 2003, 05:09 PM
Tropical,
Your constant propaganda ALMOST makes me want to forsake my vow and break bread with the Devil. :evil:

Almost, but not even!! :D

High Points: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf:

Been there done that!!!! :neener:

Al Thompson
March 31, 2003, 07:43 PM
Don't own one, but have watched bunches fired for the 50 round qualification part of the CWP class. Zero jams with ball ammo.

Meets the first rule of a gunfight - "have a gun". Poor folks have a right to SD too.

jsalcedo
March 31, 2003, 08:11 PM
[Poor folks have a right to SD too.]

Then lets bring back the OSS liberator

They would retail for about $19.99 and would be very reliable.

Quartus
March 31, 2003, 09:30 PM
Well, I will likely have a chance to play with one in the not-too-distant future. A friend of mine mentioned them to me, and when I spoke to him this afternoon, he was planning to pick one up tonight.


He decided after reading this thread (Hi, Bruce!), so I guess you got a convert, Tropical Z. :what:

Or at least a willing-to-give-it-a-try-vert. :D


I'll give you a range report when I can...

hansolo
March 31, 2003, 10:28 PM
We did this one to death on TFL:banghead:! I have fired the 9mm "compact": it ain't no HK, but it did hit the target and no jams, so, for a throw-down or truck-gun-range-beater, IT'SAGUN! One TFL member had a BAD one....seems he got so P.O.'d that he buried it in the desert.:neener: Another member of THR has the Carbine and LOVES it! The downside(or, ONE of them)is, he says each shot fired feels like a punch in the cheek:what: I look at it this way: you can buy the whole Hi-Point catalogue for the price of a Samsung TV.

firestar
April 1, 2003, 03:06 AM
Too many good used guns in that price range I'd take before considering a Hi-Point (I had a choice this weekend b/t a $155 Firestar 9mm & Bulgie Mak for $149---chose the Firestar)...

Nice! You are going to love the Firestar. Let us know how it shoots and post some pics! 9X19 beats 9X18 anyway you cut it.:neener:

denfoote
April 1, 2003, 07:50 AM
One TFL member had a BAD one....seems he got so P.O.'d that he buried it in the desert.

hansolo,

That would be me!!!! :D

High Points: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf:

Didorian
April 1, 2003, 09:34 PM
I own a Hi-Point 9mm rifle..... it's a great little carbine...
It's ideal for plinking, or haveing around for snakes and other little nasties when you're out fishing...
The sling is a great idea too, considering where/how it's placed on the rifle....
My only problem with the rifle, is the sights could use some color..... Aside from that one minor inconvience..... it's perfect for the price.

Mr. Purple
April 1, 2003, 10:05 PM
I would rather own a raven 25 auto before a Hi Point pistol. I have seen and had the oppertunity to fire examples of both brands and as others have pointed out, the Hi points are nothing but bulky jam o matics.

Laugh if you want but the 2 Ravens I shot didn't jam. I still won't own one, but I'd sooner spend $65 on a Raven that does work as opposed to a larger caliber Hi Point that doesn't.

In all seriousness, take that $179 buy a used S&W 38 K frame. It just might save your life.

As far as a lifetime warranty goes, Taurus has one too, but from what I read on the various gun boards, alot of folks are disatisfied with it. They say that they either don't get the work done, don't get it done right, or are told that the gun is no longer produced and are given a partial credit for the purchase of a new one. The life time warranty is a crap shoot depending on the company behind it.

Tropical Z
April 2, 2003, 11:15 AM
A Raven .25acp-PLEASE!:barf:
Hi-Point has THE best warranty and service in the business!:neener:

Stevie-Ray
April 2, 2003, 11:39 PM
Hi-point appears to be the AMT for the new millenium.:barf:

Logistar
April 3, 2003, 12:00 AM
I have no experience with Hi-Point products. I am considering their 9mm carbine though.

The problem I have is (IIRC) that if you need warranty work, you have to pay shipping TO the factory AND shipping back as well. I guess for the price I should not complain but if you DID have problems it might cost you a fortune to get it straightened out.

Quartus
April 3, 2003, 10:25 AM
The life time warranty is a crap shoot depending on the company behind it.


That's always the case, isn't it?

Integrity counts. In business, in politics, and in personal life. No matter how often the blissninnies chant their mantra, there ARE absolutes.

But I digress....

Tropical Z
April 3, 2003, 12:52 PM
Comparing Hi-Point to AMT is a HUGE insult to Hi-Point.Hi-Points WORK and are accurate!:cool:

Soap
April 3, 2003, 02:04 PM
I don't understand how a gun can "rule" if you can't even keep a round in the chamber safely. Did I miss something? :confused:

gharsh
April 3, 2003, 03:17 PM
I have one of the 9mm compacts and have fired hundreds of rounds through it without any problems. I don't even think I've cleaned it. Maybe ran a bore snake through it. I don't even know if they can be stripped to be cleaned. Plus, when I'm out of ammo, I can throw it at the Bad Guy and do just about as much damage as the 9mm. :)

Stevie-Ray
April 3, 2003, 11:51 PM
Comparing Hi-Point to AMT is a HUGE insult to Hi-Point. Exactly as intended!

emann
April 4, 2003, 01:31 AM
There ger-RATE!!! My CF.380 has been far more reliable then some of my gun's costing SIX times as much. ;)

WonderNine
April 4, 2003, 03:20 AM
I handled one recently. It was bulky and kind of junky.

However, if you want a backup car gun or a bathroom gun it might do the job.

I'd still go with the Makarov, CZ-52, or used S&W Model 10 with +P :rolleyes:

WonderNine
April 4, 2003, 03:23 AM
The only thing that keeps em away from them is having the magazine release at the bottom of the grip. If/when they change that, I'd consider picking one up. I have the 9mm pistol and the 9mm carbine, both have been very accurate and reliable.

The 9mm carbine might be kind of fun as a cheap plinker. I've seen a few of them.

WonderNine
April 4, 2003, 03:32 AM
A Raven .25acp-PLEASE!
Hi-Point has THE best warranty and service in the business!

Ok, you're starting to go from eccentric to just straight looney....

WonderNine
April 4, 2003, 03:33 AM
Hi-point appears to be the AMT for the new millenium.

Yes, only Hi-point hasn't bothered to make a .22 magnum autopistol that works at least some of the time, so I still hold AMT in higher respect :D

Tropical Z
April 4, 2003, 12:44 PM
All you doubters just go ahead and be JEALOUS of those of us who are SMART enough to realize a great bargain in RELIABLE firearms-we dont care!:neener:

TreeSquid
April 4, 2003, 07:33 PM
Actually, Hi-Point DOES have great service, I've heard several firsthand accounts of this. One guy even ran over his hi-point with a truck, and they sent him a new frame for free, even gave him a free mag with it. They're ugly as hell, are huge, heavy, and look like hairdryers, but recent hi-points seem to be THE thing to get for the SD-minded who are strapped for cash. Reliable, accurate enough, and very inexpensive. Halfway decent ergonomics on the 9mm and .380, too, though you wouldn't guess from looking. The one I played with felt better than the S&W 5906 I fiddled around with, though I'm sure that would change if one slapped some hogue grips on it. So, like, yeah. If you don't have much money, and don't want to buy used, and don't expect to carry it concealed, I couldn't look down on you for buying one. How many people said the same things about kel-tec, and look what they've become! If they (they being hi-point, not kel-tec :)) get their act together and stop using zinc (:barf: ) then they could actually become a reasonable firearm for people who AREN'T poor to have :P

Stevie-Ray
April 4, 2003, 11:59 PM
Yes, only Hi-point hasn't bothered to make a .22 magnum autopistol that works at least some of the time, so I still hold AMT in higher respect Well, you got me there!:D

makdaddy03
April 6, 2003, 01:53 AM
I own a Hi Point 40S&W. They are great plinkers, but I wouldnt trust my life with one. For a defensive gun in the same price range buy yourself a revolver. (Rossi, Taurus,S&W) :)

ps
By the way my dealer said that he hasnt had one Hi point return for repairs.:)

Tropical Z
April 6, 2003, 02:43 PM
YAH!
When was the last time you heard about a Hi-Point .40S&W KABOOMING? Not once that i recall.
Hi-Points RRRRRRRUUUULLLLEEEEEEE!!!

Blackhawk
April 6, 2003, 02:55 PM
Yes, only Hi-point hasn't bothered to make a .22 magnum autopistol that works at least some of the time, so I still hold AMT in higher respect I'd like to see a reliable, short barrel .22 Mag auto, but I'm afraid that won't happen because the .22 Mag needs a relatively long barrel to get decent performance.

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