[Blackhawk]

About 30 minutes ago, I saw John Gibson break a story about Peter Arnett (infamous Tailwind reporter on CNN) giving an interview to the Iraqi Information Ministry broadcast on Iraqi TV about how HIS reporting has helped foment American opposition to the Iraqi war. Then Arnett flat out said that the US war plan has failed and that a new plan is being put into effect.

Arnett works for National Geographic Explorer and appears on MSNBC. He has amazing access within Iraq at a time when Fox News and CNN have been kicked out by the Iraqi government.

In case anybody doubted that Arnett is a traitor to the U.S., all you need to do is see that report on Fox News.

MSNBC has again been put on my boycott list.... :fire:


:cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

[Thumper]

Yep, more of that conservative, right wing media I keep hearing about. :rolleyes:

I hope this gets wide distribution.

[SodaPop]

Where is George Washington when you need him? He had a pretty good way of dealing with traitors.:fire:

[cuchulainn]

Disgusting, but is Arnett a U.S. citizen?

[Blackhawk]

I'm still livid about Arnett's treachery in the Tailwind story he did on CNN. :fire: He's been on the same traitor list with Jane Fonda and Ramsey Clark since then. :fire:

[SIC TRANSIT GLORIA MUNDI]

Yes, I believe so. Giving aid and comfort to the enemy is definitely treason.

[Blackhawk]

Rita Cosby just said he was an "American journalist."

[Tag]

I just saw this report on FNC. :scrutiny:

he was too emphatical in his statements for it to be anything but his own twised version of the truth. :banghead:

If nothing else this war is allowing everyone to show their TRUE colors, make mine red white and blue.

out

[agricola]

this would be the Fox News that is the staunch defender of the truth?

http://www.sierratimes.com/03/02/28/arpubmg022803.htm

[Thumper]

From what I understand, they've got this bucket of pus on tape.

Kodak doesn't lie

[SIC TRANSIT GLORIA MUNDI]

The source of the report makes no difference when you see and hear the words coming out of the man's mouth. Arnett ought to be charged with treason. Whether anyone has the balls to pursue it remains to be seen. I'll bet no one does anything about it.

[Blackhawk]

Iraqi TV, MSNBC, and NBC with Arnett having roots in CNN, agricola.

Fox News is just reporting it.

[El Tejon]

Ag, sure, just like 60 Minutes did to Sharon. He didn't make out either.

They are showing video of it. Maybe FNC is faking the video like NBC did with those truck crashes? This looks like it would be hard to photo shoppe though.

Arnett is either off his rocker or had a pistol to his ear. I'm willing to believe either.

[Blackhawk]

NBC says Arnett gave the interview to Iraqi TV as "a professional courtesy." :barf:

That's why lawyers don't have to worry about sharks attacking them.

[Zundfolge]

Kodak doesn't lie

If you honestly believe that I've got a bridge in NYC for sale.

I work for a catalog company and edit photos for a living ... I can make that Kodak lie very easily.


As to the Arnett thing ... unless there was a guy off camera with a Kalashnikov pointed at him (and there very well may have been) I'd say he's crossed the treason line ... but so did Jane Fonda and she's still walking around :rolleyes:.

[Thumper]

I work for a catalog company and edit photos for a living ... I can make that Kodak lie very easily.

You obviously got my point...are you simply being argumentative, Zund?

[Zundfolge]

Maybe I missed your point. :confused:

Where you being serious with your Kodak doesn't lie statement? or was that sarcasm? (if it was the latter, then I missed your point)

[Thumper]

Perhaps I should have been more specific:

In this particular instance, I believe it highly unlikely that FoxNews knowingly manipulated their taped report depicting Peter Arnette conducting what I consider to be acts of treason.

There.

You don't think photo manipulation is some arcane secret known only in the catalog industry, do you?

:neener:

Just playin'...I should have explained myself. "Kodak doesn't lie" just had this ring, ya know?

[Zander]

No one who has the slightest knowledge of Arnett's sordid anti-American record should be suprised in the least by his traitorous remarks.

And yes, I do believe he's a traitor...his actions meet the classic definition as defined by the Constitution. I'd like to think that, once and for all, his career as a "journalist" is over.

However, as long as his fellow America-haters are willing to employ him and his attendant propaganda-pieces under color of the First Amendment, he'll get a paycheck and a pass.

I wouldn't want to be in-country and in his shoes...

[hksw]

"Maybe FNC is faking the video like NBC did with those truck crashes?"

Or maybe like 60 Minutes' segment on Audi's 'Sudden Acceleration'.

[grampster]

hksw,
I don't remember what 60 minutes had to say about Audi's sudden acceleration, but I bought an Audi 5000, brand new, in '78. My wife put the car in reverse one afternoon when it was about a year old and it took off like a rocket out of the garage. she applied the brake with both feet and the car continued to accelerate. I was in the co pilots seat and reached over and turned off the key before getting to the street. Her foot was not on the gas, which is what Audi tried to say, as she had them both planted firmly on the brake. When the car stopped, I looked down and observed that for myself. Vehicle never did it again, though.

[Waitone]

Peterr's anti-Americanism goes all the way back to Vietnam. The guy is a charter member of "Hate America First".

[Greybeard]

:fire: :fire: :fire: :barf:

[Gary H]

Puts MSNBC is a tough spot.

[dev_null]

What was that about "aid and comfort to the enemy" ...? I'd say he merits the Jane Fonda Patriotism Award. :fire:

-0-

[Blackhawk]

Puts MSNBC is a tough spot.All it needs to do is fire him. If it doesn't, it can kiss a bunch of eyeballs that have been checking it out goodbye forever.

[JoeSF]

I saw it. I don't know why he said what he did but it has been all over TV here. Maybe it's like the kid from columbia said about the teach in there. So many people hate Bush they are confused about what's going on with the war.
How many people are just against Bush? Maybe he is one of them?

[Blackhawk]

How many people are just against Bush? Maybe he is one of them?
I think it's deeper than that. His CNN Tailwind hit piece wasn't against any individual. It was against Vietnam Vets, and he persevered with it even after his story premise was exposed to him as BS before it ever got ready for broadcast.

He just seems to love anybody who hates the U.S. Check this out: Transcript of Osama Bin Ladin interview by Peter Arnett (http://www.anusha.com/osamaint.htm).

Jane Fonda and Ramsey Clark are just plain stupid, but Arnett seems to be maliciously vindictive in his hate of the U.S. military.

[ahadams]

if Arnett is a citizen he certainly could be tried for giving aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war. Actually it might be interesting, since even as with this current war, we're beginning to see which side a lot of folks are on. [note to conspiracy theorists of all bents: I don't even want to hear it. There, does that make you feel better?]

...of course I myself am a member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka VRWC), but who's counting?:neener:

[Blackhawk]

Geraldo just said Arnett gave aid and comfort to the enemy....

This story has legs! :neener:

[sig970]

I was so shocked when I heard his taped report I almost reached for my Kimber. What was he thinking????:banghead:

[ahadams]

What?? Geraldo just said something I agree with??!! :what: where's that bottle of Jim Beam?? No man should have to experience something like that sober!! :D

[JoeSF]

Blackhawk, the Bin Laden interview doesn't seem anything like what he did today. Thanks for the link though.
Maybe Geraldo will get a chance to clock Arnett in Baghdad. Geraldo's ok. I heard him tell an Airborne Major in Afghanistan he was sorry to be in the peace movement in the 60's.

[Monkeyleg]

Any station that uses Arnett as a reporter should receive phone calls promising a boycott.

Arnett makes George Stephanopoulos look like member of the right-wing conspiracy.

[Blackhawk]

John Gibson just reported that Arnett was born in New Zealand and became an American citizen about 10 years ago.

Gibson is really reaming him on Fox News right now! :D

[JoeSF]

Kiwi defence... bury your head in the sand.

[Blackhawk]

What?? Geraldo just said something I agree with??!! where's that bottle of Jim Beam?? No man should have to experience something like that sober!!

That's close to what I thought. Geraldo's become sort of like a pet spider in this war. :rolleyes:

[Zander]

I just don't know what's gotten into Jerry ["Geraldo" was born 'Jerry Rivers'], but I do like the trend.

Let's hope his newfound mindset isn't just a convenience for the benefit of his current employer.

His whole life has been spent violating every moral principle known to man. If his conversion is legitimate...great!

If not, let's let him bunk-in with Peter Arnett in downtown Baghdad; they have a lot in common.

[Blackhawk]

There's a thread about Arnett's treason running on FreeRepublic at: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/880389/posts

It had a few new-to-me things in it.

[jmbg29]

Geraldo's become sort of like a pet spider in this war.LMFAO :D :D :D

[2dogs]

The enemy's megaphone

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Posted: March 31, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Tom Marzullo
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com


Well, surprise, surprise, surprise ... Peter Arnett is broadcasting his special brand of ego-driven, anti-American rhetoric from Baghdad once again, having been rehabilitated from his ashes and sackcloth by the "green"-driven National Geographic, and now seconded to the National Broadcasting Corporation.

For those not familiar with the symbol most closely describing the real-politik of the "greens," beyond a doubt, it would have to be the watermelon. A thin patina of green coats the exterior with a slightly bitter, hard, white rind supporting – while inside, it is red solidly to the core.

Yes, I know: Why don't I tell you how I really feel? But if one looks at some of the policy decisions made by the "greens," perhaps some justification might be found for this apparently less-than-charitable assessment.

Let's dial Mr. Peabody's "Wayback Machine" to the mid-1980s. Ninety miles off of the Florida coast, in Castro's idyllic worker's paradise of Cuba, the benevolent peace-loving Soviets are busily constructing a nuclear-power reactor, virtually identical to that gem of proletariat workmanship located near Chernobyl.

Chernobyl, as many will recall, was the site of the worst nuclear disaster in history – just a little earlier. But the Cuban copy is being constructed without the higher standards used in the construction of the original graphite-core reactor, as the hard currency required is getting harder to find.

Given the level of shrill, chained-across-the-entrance anti-nuclear hyperbole we are now long accustomed to at power plants throughout the United States, it might surprise you to learn that they had nothing to say about this holocaust-waiting-to-happen. Yes, that's right – a stunning silence.

Well, to be completely candid, the hierarchy did kind of very quietly mumble something indistinct when directly questioned about the situation, so perhaps you feel that they covered themselves OK (you mutter).

Fair enough. But how about the routine Soviet practice of dumping poorly sealed, hot-as-a-pistol naval nuclear-reactor cores into the Barents Sea? Golly gee, when you consider the media and legal ruckus kicked up about America carefully transporting low-level waste (about one-trillionth the amount the Soviets kept dumping, willy-nilly) designed more than a mite better than the bare ocean floor, it seems interesting that again you could hear a (very small) pin drop relative to what the greens had to say in the earlier scenario. Hmmm … the previous mumbled equivocations used for the Cuban scenario seem somehow less compelling this time.

But enough of the obnoxiously persistent and inconvenient facts about the greens' protestation policies (and there are many, many more), because what we are really reading this for is to find out about the whys and wherefores of the recently resurrected Arnett and his latest pro-Saddam journalistic antics so piously defended by NBC.

To put Peter's statements within a fair context of his past journalistic activities, one must go back to the 1960s and the Vietnam War. In that conflict, Arnett attempted to float – not once, but twice – the contrived story of the dread and deadly chemical weapons (common teargas, as it turned out) being deployed by the barbaric and murderous American military machine.

Undismayed by having been found out, and after being rewarded with a Pulitzer Prize (similar to the 1930s prize for "debunking" Stalin's coldly calculated, but well-documented Ukrainian genocide), Arnett skipped off merrily into the sunset with his North Vietnamese bride to later appear on CNN.

At CNN, Arnett became a rising star, broadcasting from around the world until 1990, where he was the only Western reporter allowed to stay in and report from Baghdad during the first Gulf War. While there, his reporting was widely criticized for its apparent slant favoring Saddam's regime, culminating in his infamous "Baby-Milk-Factory" story with its hastily scribbled signs in each of the languages that particular run of footage was to be aired with.

After the war, Arnett was granted unique and extensive privileges to cover the story within Iraq and, once again, his reporting was very favorable to the Iraqi regime. His coverage of Saddam's mass murder of Kurdish people with nerve agents and the brutal suppression of the Shiite revolt were kind, to say the least.

But in 1998, Arnett hit an unexpected snag in his well-practiced tap-dancing routine when he helped to construct – and then front for – the worst journalistic disaster in living memory, the CNN-TIME "Valley of Death" story that headlined (and sank) his own – and his network's – reputation. For that jewel of lurid deception, Arnett (well protected from internal review by CNN executives) dredged up his already twice-rejected nerve-gas story, applied some sparkly glitter effects with very adroit editing so as to ensure the success of the premier of "NewsStand."

WorldNetDaily's Joseph Farah broke the story and, within weeks, the fragile bubble of the leftist fantasy Arnett had created, burst. In the aftermath, Arnett was ignobly consigned to a bare desk while internal CNN reviews, lawsuits and governmental investigations ground on and on, until it was more cost-effective for CNN to spend the big bucks to buy out his contract rather than risk putting him on the air again.

The aftermath of that phony nerve-gas story was not only that CNN was virtually ruined from an integrity standpoint (not that Peter really cared), but that was the straw that broke the back of the fragile international consensus that kept the United Nations' weapons inspectors in Iraq. For it was Arnett's little introductory speech for that pack of calculated lies that asserted that now the United States had no moral position to deny Iraq chemical weapons.

Well, now the person who helped bring the world to a war over Iraqi chemical weapons brings you NBC-certified, fresh news from the front. Listen closely now and begin to understand ...

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31797

[El Tejon]

WLS, 890AM, Chicago, is reporting that NBC fired Arnett this morning.

[Greg L]

I heard of the NBC firing also, National Geographic Channel too FWIW.

Greg

[cuchulainn]

National Geographic Telephone Numbers

General Society Information
800 NGS LINE (800 647 5463)
800 548 9797 (TDD)

Outside the United States and Canada
+1 813 979 6845

Magazine Orders
(National Geographic, Traveler, and National Geographic Kids)
800 NGS LINE (800 647 5463)
800 548 9797 (TDD)

[Al Norris]

Since Geraldo's name was brought up earlier, you might be interested to know that he has been expelled from Iraq and will be "dropped" at the Kuwait border.

What did he do, you might ask? During a live interview, he drew a map in the sand revealing the position of the Marine Unit he was with.

A search of this on Fownews brings up nothing. A search on CNN brings a small blip at the bottom of a page on other war related news.

Edited to add URL.

• U.S. military officials say Fox News Channel correspondent Geraldo Rivera will be expelled from Iraq after violating the cardinal rule of war reporting Monday by giving away crucial details of future military operations during a live broadcast. (http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/31/sprj.irq.war.main.int/index.html)

[Dannyboy]

Geraldo. What an idiot. His cold, dead body should be dropped at the Kuwait border. FWIW, I think it's safe to say that Arnett is officially a freelance reporter now. He should be dropped alongside Geraldo.

[Blackhawk]

I saw that Geraldo map-in-the-sand bit and thought "you freakin' idiot!" Glad somebody else was watching...! :fire:

[Blackhawk]

The enemy's megaphoneThanks for that, 2dogs! :D

[Blackhawk]

Good for NBC, MSNBC, and NG if Arnett's been fired. That doesn't remove the pox on them for hiring him in the first place, though. :fire:

Now I'm waiting for the announcement that treason charges against him have been brought. :fire:

[CZ-75]

I'm waiting for him to be deported back to NZ.

Problem is, BBC would probably pick him up then. If not, The Guardian waits.

[Blackhawk]

He can't be deported since he's a naturalized American citizen. But he can be put in prison...! :neener:

[CZ-75]

Tell that to John Demjanjuk.

[Blackhawk]

Ol' John didn't tell the truth about his history so his citizenship was revoked. Fraud, you know....

[Blackhawk]

Geraldo's doing a live report from a town 60 miles south of Baghdad. He was asked about the report of being expelled from Iraq, and he immediately blamed the folks at NBC, specifically Peter Arnett, for spreading rumors about him.

[CZ-75]

And Peter didn't mention he was an Iraqi agent, at least from the look of things. Probably a former Soviet one as well.

[Thumper]

Geraldo's doing a live report from a town 60 miles south of Baghdad. He was asked about the report of being expelled from Iraq, and he immediately blamed the folks at NBC, specifically Peter Arnett, for spreading rumors about him.

Interesting! I'm at work...you guys keep me updated.

[gun-fucious]

National Geographic Statement Regarding Peter Arnett; National Geographic fires Peter Arnett


WASHINGTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--March 31, 2003--National Geographic has terminated the service of Peter Arnett.

The Society did not authorize or have any prior knowledge of Arnett's television interview with Iraqi television, and had we been consulted, would not have allowed it. His decision to grant an interview and express his personal views on state controlled Iraqi television, especially during a time of war, was a serious error in judgment and wrong.

[JCOJR]

I was thinking that maybe some special forces might bring Arnett out of Bagdad. Vertical or Horizontal...makes no difference!

[OF]

I didn't see the Arnett interview - and no access to a TV here. Anyone have a transcript or video link?

- Gabe

[Dannyboy]

Can his citizenship be revoked? Not to say that it should but can they do it? I would think so, since they gave him citizenship. That would be kind of funny. Send him back to NZ and they'll say, "You're no longer a citizen and you're not welcome here." A man with no country...except for Iraq.:D

[agricola]

thank god the first amendment is defended as staunchly as the second :rolleyes:

[El Tejon]

Ag, you don't have the right to hurt your nation's militree with your First Amendment rights. Besides, it appears that some here consider Pete's words non-protected "fighting words.":D

[Blackhawk]

thank god the first amendment is defended as staunchly as the second Actually, I wish the second WAS defended as staunchly as the first.... :p

[jmbg29]

GRD,

I haven't been able to find a video link yet, but here is a FoxNews story in which the rat tries to backpeddle.


NBC Fires Journalist Peter Arnett

Monday, March 31, 2003



NEW YORK — NBC fired journalist Peter Arnett on Monday, saying it was wrong for him to give an interview with state-run Iraqi TV in which he said the American-led coalition's initial plan for the war had failed because of Iraq's resistance. Arnett called the interview a "misjudgment" and apologized.

Arnett, on NBC's Today show on Monday, said he was sorry for his statement but added "I said over the weekend what we all know about the war."

"I want to apologize to the American people for clearly making a misjudgment," the New Zealand-born Arnett said. He said he would try to leave Baghdad now, joking "there's a small island in the South Pacific that I've inhabited that I'll try to swim to."

NBC defended him Sunday, saying he had given the interview as a professional courtesy and that his remarks were analytical in nature. But by Monday morning the network switched course and, after Arnett spoke with NBC News President Neal Shapiro, said it would no longer work with Arnett.

"It was wrong for Mr. Arnett to grant an interview to state-controlled Iraqi TV, especially at a time of war," NBC spokeswoman Allison Gollust said. "And it was wrong for him to discuss his personal observations and opinions in that interview."

Arnett, who won a Pulitzer Prize reporting in Vietnam for The Associated Press, gained much of his prominence from covering the 1991 Gulf War for CNN. One of the few American television reporters left in Baghdad, his reports were frequently aired on NBC and its cable sisters, MSNBC and CNBC.

Leaving a second network under a cloud may mark the end of his TV career. Arnett was the on-air reporter of the 1998 CNN report that accused American forces of using sarin nerve gas on a Laotian village in 1970 to kill U.S. defectors. Two CNN employees were sacked and Arnett was reprimanded over the report, which the station later retracted. Arnett left the network when his contract was not renewed.

In the Iraqi TV interview, broadcast Sunday by Iraq's satellite television station and monitored by The Associated Press in Egypt, Arnett said his Iraqi friends tell him there is a growing sense of nationalism and resistance to what the United States and Britain are doing.

He said the United States is reappraising the battlefield and delaying the war, maybe for a week, "and rewriting the war plan. The first war plan has failed because of Iraqi resistance. Now they are trying to write another war plan."

"Clearly, the American war plans misjudged the determination of the Iraqi forces," Arnett said.

Arnett said it is clear that within the United States there is growing opposition to the war and a growing challenge to President Bush about the war's conduct.

"Our reports about civilian casualties here, about the resistance of the Iraqi forces, are going back to the United States," he said. "It helps those who oppose the war when you challenge the policy to develop their arguments."

At a briefing Sunday in Qatar, Gen. Tommy Franks ticked off major achievements of the war campaign, including the advance of troops to within 60 miles of Baghdad. But he found himself answering questions about whether he had enough troops to do the job and denying that coalition forces were stalled.

A Republican congresswoman, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, told Fox News Channel on Sunday that Arnett's remarks were "Kafkaesque" and "just crazy."

"Let's hope that he's being coerced," Ros-Lehtinen said.

The first Bush administration was unhappy with Arnett's reporting on the Gulf War in 1991 for CNN, suggesting he had become a conveyor of propaganda. ARnett was denounced for reporting that the allies had bombed a baby milk factory in Baghdad when the military said it was a biological weapons plant.

Arnett went to Iraq this year not as an NBC News reporter but as an employee of the MSNBC show National Geographic Explorer. When other NBC reporters left Baghdad for safety reasons, the network began airing his reports. NBC said Monday he wouldn't be reporting for National Geographic Explorer, either.

The Iraqi TV interview was broadcast in English and translated by a uniformed Iraqi anchor. NBC said Arnett gave the interview when asked shortly after he attended an Iraqi government briefing.

In the April 5 issue of TV Guide, Arnett said he felt he had found redemption reporting on the current war.

"I was furious with (CNN founder) Ted Turner and (then-CNN chairman) Tom Johnson when they threw me to the wolves after I made them billions risking my life to cover the first Gulf War," Arnett told TV Guide.

"Now (Turner and Johnson) are gone, the Iraqis have thrown the CNN crew out of Baghdad, and I'm still here," he said. "Any satisfaction in that? Ha, ha, ha, ha."

He said the Iraqis allowed him to stay in Baghdad because they respect him and "see me as a fellow warrior."He said the Iraqis allowed him to stay in Baghdad because they respect him and "see me as a fellow warrior."Yeah, for their side.

[hansolo]

Here's what we do; have Special Ops pick up this "bucket of pus",
pay some Iraqi go-between to deliver Arnett to Saddam's torture specialists with a note pinned to his shirt:
SADDAM SUCKS :rolleyes:

[BigG]

Iraqis ... respect him and "see me as a fellow warrior." <Arnett>

:barf:

[hksw]

"Iraqis ... respect him and 'see me as a fellow warrior.'"

I totally agree, considering what the Iraqi military thinks what a warrior is.