Man Stops Carjacking With Hot Coffee (SC)


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LaEscopeta
October 20, 2005, 09:05 PM
2 points on this story;
1. I've often wondered how effective a cup of hot coffee in the face would be in distracting an armed attacker long enough to escape or employ a better weapon.
2. It is possible for an aggressive unarmed person to take a gun away from an armed clueless person.


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Man Stops Carjacking With Hot Coffee
Thursday, October 20, 2005
BLUFFTON, S.C. - A would-be carjacker got quite a jolt when he picked the wrong car to try to steal, Jasper County deputies say. The suspect tapped the window of the car Wednesday morning with a gun and motioned the driver to get out, Chief Deputy Roy Hughes said.

The driver of the car had just bought a cup of hot coffee. So he slammed his door into the carjacker's legs, threw the coffee on him possibly burning the suspect's neck and face, and wrestled him to the ground, Hughes said.

A shot was fired during the scuffle, but no one was hurt. The driver managed to get the gun from the suspect and point it at him, Hughes said.

The suspect ran into the wood behind the store, the chief deputy said.

Deputies are looking for the would-be carjacker along with two people believed to be with him who drove off while the fight was going on, Hughes said.

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TexasRifleman
October 20, 2005, 09:07 PM
Did he have a license to carry that coffee? Did he keep it concealed?

That's too funny. :D

Lupinus
October 20, 2005, 09:12 PM
Ut oh.

Coffee is dangerous. Better get your licenses early boys before carrying a cup of cofee rated over a certian temeture becomes illegal :rolleyes:

GunnySkox
October 20, 2005, 09:13 PM
Oh, BURN!
:D
~GnSx

shermacman
October 20, 2005, 09:25 PM
When the bad guys are holding your family hostage, offer to make a fresh pot of coffee; you know, to relieve the tension.
Bring to a full boil, then add enough sugar to make it viscous enough to stick to exposed skin. Toss a cup of that into their face.

DorGunR
October 20, 2005, 09:29 PM
Does thid mean McDonalds is gonna have another "hot coffee" lawsuit on their hands? :)

Standing Wolf
October 20, 2005, 09:33 PM
Deputies are looking for the would-be carjacker along with two people believed to be with him who drove off while the fight was going on...

No loyalty among thieves, I guess.

Langenator
October 20, 2005, 09:33 PM
A weapon without the willingness to use it is worthless.

The will to fight, survive, and win, even without a standard weapon, can make all the difference.

Byron Quick
October 20, 2005, 09:34 PM
Damn shame he didn't shoot the carjacker.

Warren
October 20, 2005, 09:41 PM
So what caliber is best for carrying a concealed beverage (ccb) ''Grande'' or ''Venti''?
No one in their right mind would carry a "Tall".

TrafficMan
October 20, 2005, 09:43 PM
kinda reminds me of the last scene in Fast Times at Ridgemont High....

Spicoli "way to go hamilton!" lol

Geno
October 20, 2005, 09:45 PM
I agree that it is entertaining inasmuch as no one was injured. PTL! However, I do believe too, that we should not be “celebrating” or encouraging people to take such risks. This BG was clearly a novice…probably a first-timer. For fact, he has learned. Now, sorer and wiser, the BG will NOT make this mistake again! To be certain, the BG WILL strike again. Stupid knows no limits and stupid has no common sense to stop before someone gets killed. This was a good read that I hope no one else tries to repeat.

Doc2005

msb45
October 20, 2005, 09:56 PM
forget 9MM vs .45,








Decaf vs Regular?

:)

mmike87
October 20, 2005, 09:59 PM
We need a coffee licensing and registration scheme immediately.

wolf_from_wv
October 20, 2005, 11:18 PM
then add enough sugar to make it viscous enough to stick

Sounds like a perfect cup of coffee to me...

losangeles
October 21, 2005, 12:09 AM
Coffee, a multi-purpose tool and weapon.

Preacherman
October 21, 2005, 12:19 AM
Sounds like a caf-fiend-ish thing to do...

:D :evil: :neener:

Hardware
October 21, 2005, 02:21 AM
So what caliber is best for carrying a concealed beverage (ccb) ''Grande'' or ''Venti''?
No one in their right mind would carry a "Tall".

Wait. Coffee comes in a size smaller than Grande??? When did this start happening?!? And what's the point?!?

Powderman
October 21, 2005, 04:48 AM
mixed instruments of defense. I'm a traditionalist....

"I know what you're thinking....

does he have a breve, or a latte?"

"But, seeing as this is a 44 oz. AMERICANO...
and will burn your eyeballs CLEAN out, you've got to ask yourself...

"Do I feel lucky?"

"Well, do ya....PUNK?!?"

:neener:

The_Antibubba
October 21, 2005, 04:57 AM
I wouldn't mocha big deal out of it, but I'm sure the BG's lawyer will see sufficient grounds for a lawsuit.

foghornl
October 21, 2005, 08:11 AM
If you don't have coffee, how about a nice hot steaming cup of Earl Grey, or perhaps English Breafast Tea? ***

***Warning...do not use EBT after 10:00AM. "Miss Manners" will slap you around for that social gaffe, after Art's Grammaw wails on you for making the BG use "Such Language! Oh, my!"


:D :evil: :D :evil: :D

You guys beat me to all the good puns....

svtruth
October 21, 2005, 08:15 AM
Will they outlaw high capacity mags, I mean, mugs?

GunGoBoom
October 21, 2005, 09:36 AM
That is fantastic. Assault cappucino.

Maybe the brady bunch is right - all we need is 911 and a thermos in our hands at all times.

middy
October 21, 2005, 09:38 AM
The driver of the car had just bought a cup of hot coffee. So he slammed his door into the carjacker's legs, threw the coffee on him possibly burning the suspect's neck and face, and wrestled him to the ground, Hughes said.

A shot was fired during the scuffle, but no one was hurt. The driver managed to get the gun from the suspect and point it at him, Hughes said.

Bravo! Well done. There's a man I'd like to have at my side in a scuffle.

I agree that it is entertaining inasmuch as no one was injured. PTL! However, I do believe too, that we should not be “celebrating” or encouraging people to take such risks. This BG was clearly a novice…probably a first-timer. For fact, he has learned. Now, sorer and wiser, the BG will NOT make this mistake again! To be certain, the BG WILL strike again. Stupid knows no limits and stupid has no common sense to stop before someone gets killed. This was a good read that I hope no one else tries to repeat.

I disagree entirely. More people need to fight back, and more people need to arm themselves. Let the criminals live in fear.

shaldag
October 21, 2005, 10:05 AM
Does Chuckie Schumer know about this? Pretty soon it'll be illegal to transport hot coffee across state lines..........
:rolleyes: :D

armorplate
October 21, 2005, 12:01 PM
I love guns and coffee. To the B.G. Here's Expresso in your eye!

Boxerrider
October 21, 2005, 12:15 PM
So, once you've taken the BG's weapon, you've earned the right to keep it, correct?

Enjoy!

ScottsGT
October 21, 2005, 12:31 PM
Maybe it was the stolen Glock from Aiken SC?

Seems us South Carolina folks are in the news a lot lately, huh? :D

No_Brakes23
October 21, 2005, 12:38 PM
I wouldn't mocha big deal out of it, but I'm sure the BG's lawyer will see sufficient grounds for a lawsuit. lol, I almost wet myself from laughing...:D

Good for this guy. Reminds of the 2nd carjacking scene in Crash, where Ludacris gets pwned by his would be victim.

nomadboi
October 21, 2005, 01:58 PM
Wonder if he'd just seen "A History of Violence"?

Or "Ronin", for that matter... "You want to lecture me about ambushes? I just ambushed you with a cup of coffee!"

M-Rex
October 21, 2005, 02:05 PM
Sounds like a caf-fiend-ish thing to do...

:D :evil: :neener:

Oh man, now that was bad. ;) :neener:

pete f
October 21, 2005, 03:05 PM
need to get a tacktickle coffee dispenser that upon hitting a dashboard panic button ejects copious amounts of hot coffee around the vehicle. disabling carjackers. In south africa someguy (name foster comes to mind) took his car and added an extra fule pump and would spray the area around his car with fuel mist for a second nad then ignite it. massive fireball but almost instantly gone, safe for those in the car nasty for those out side. i read about it in an old car magazine, but do not find it on the net.

Avenger29
October 21, 2005, 05:26 PM
Wait a minute, every cup of coffe needs to have a serial number!!!:neener:

4v50 Gary
October 21, 2005, 11:11 PM
Will McDonalds be sued again?:p

Atticus
October 21, 2005, 11:14 PM
Will McDonalds be sued again?

The sad part is they just might.

The_Antibubba
October 22, 2005, 05:05 AM
the coffee may have burned the BGs face and neck.

Now THAT'S a Mug Shot!

Steam dragon
October 22, 2005, 06:25 AM
You people are in violation of the 5th ammendment to the Constitution of the unites States of America.

Cruel and unusual PUN-ishment is prohibited!:what:

spocahp anar
October 22, 2005, 07:42 AM
So what caliber is best for carrying a concealed beverage (ccb) ''Grande'' or ''Venti''?
No one in their right mind would carry a "Tall".

But was the cofee concealed? He didn't have it under his jacket. It was in a cofee cup so it was apparent that it was coffee.

stratus
October 22, 2005, 08:20 AM
Hot coffee = mace for people who haven't given much thought to buying mace?

Seriously though, I was impressed with the story. That's one guy who can think on his feet.

GRB
October 22, 2005, 08:41 AM
I agree that it is entertaining inasmuch as no one was injured. PTL! However, I do believe too, that we should not be “celebrating” or encouraging people to take such risks. This BG was clearly a novice…probably a first-timer. For fact, he has learned. Now, sorer and wiser, the BG will NOT make this mistake again! To be certain, the BG WILL strike again. Stupid knows no limits and stupid has no common sense to stop before someone gets killed. This was a good read that I hope no one else tries to repeat.I find it so sad that people think like what is expressed in the above quote. In any such situation as was described there are 4 typical reactions that each of us can have. These are fight, flight, freeze or comply. Note the last is usually not ever mentioned by the psychologists and other experts when discussing our reactions to a threat (mostly because they have never really been there and done that and maybe because I am the first person I have ever heard of who has offered up these initial "4" reactions to a threat). Yet it (compliance) is a reaction that many psychologists and LE "experts" say we should have. The sad thing about it is that when you comply to a bad guy you are then at his/her mercy. The bad guy has you exactly where he or she wants you, unless that is dead, and if you are compling then you are in the mode whereby it is probably easiest to kill you (you may think that freeze would make it easier but ot necessarily as freezing can actually throw a bad guy off more - not that I recommend freezing in most situations though).

Doc, would you tell one of your young children (supposing you have any) to comply with someone who grabs them, throws them into a car and drives off with them. A large percentage of kidnapped children, who are kidnapped by peodophiles, are killed. Hopwever, if the child immediately fights back, a very high percentage (of those we know about) get away. Would you tell your woman to comply to the point where the rapist penetrates her so uch so as to make the rapist enjoy it. Compliance even to the extreme does not insure your safety - anything such as the twisted paranoid thoughts of a perpetrator, that you may later be a witness, can cause the bad guy to squeeze one off or to otherwise harm the victim.

Fighting back is often the thing to do. Of course, you may want to wait a bit to pick your moment depending on the situation but, waiting can sometimes be fatal. If you have the chance to grab a gun, blind side a bad guy, bite off his nose, kick him in the balls, hit her square in the face with a tire iron, scald them with very hot liquid WHEN YOUR LIFE IS IN IMMEDIATE DANGER (I think you get the picture) then I would say you should opt to go for it. Waiting may give you a false sense of security and may place you into the Stockholm Syndrome frame of mind even though the bad guy may not be in the same frame of mind.

You said we should not encourage people to take such risks - are you encouraging them to take the risk that compliance ultimately will not be met with their own death at the hands of the bad guy? Don't bet on it.

Best regards,
Glenn B

Arkie
October 22, 2005, 09:05 AM
Pete F

Is this what you are looking for in a Flame Car?

Flaming Car. (http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/africa/9812/11/flame.thrower.car)

STiTkacik
October 22, 2005, 09:10 AM
That's a great story.

Perhaps I'll start getting hot coffee instead of the iced ones I get most frequently. Not too sure what effect an iced frappucino would have on a thief...

PCGS65
October 22, 2005, 12:41 PM
Does this mean McDonalds is gonna have another "hot coffee" lawsuit on their hands? :)
No maybe whitehen or the gas station.
Are the police considering charges now that the man was in possession of a stolen gun?
Great story.:fire:

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