need info on egyptian mauser


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dghboy315
March 31, 2003, 12:15 AM
i saw a 8mm egyptian mauser 94 (according to the dealer) on sale for $160. seemed to be in very good conditions (to my untrained eye).

where can i go to find out more this rifle? anyone have any opinions on this buy?


thanks

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Okiecruffler
March 31, 2003, 08:13 AM
I thought the Egyptians were 48's, but who knows. They are basically a Yugo M48A that were made for an Egyptian military contract that didn't happen. So you end up with an unissued, unmarked M48A, which ain't a bad thing. The only thing I have against them is that everyone I've handled has had a really fuzzy stock. Easy enough to fix. It seems like they were wholesaleing for a hundred and change, so $160 might be a good deal if you can actually get a good look at the rifle.

Okiecruffler
March 31, 2003, 08:49 AM
Just spoke to my mauser expert buddy who informed me I was daft and that some, a few hundred of so, of the Egyptian mausers had been delivered to Egypt. I asked him if he had ever heard of a 94 mauser and he replied, "Dude, it's 7:30, I gottta be at work at 8:00. Don't you have anything better to do?" Friends, you just gotta love them.

dghboy315
March 31, 2003, 04:23 PM
thanks for the info Okiecruffler,

does anyone know of some websites where i could get more info? i would really like to know more about the rifle before i decide buy it. thanks.

Okiecruffler
March 31, 2003, 05:25 PM
try this one,

http://pub109.ezboard.com/bparallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums

There isn't much they don't know over there about military surplus.

telewinz
March 31, 2003, 05:40 PM
I saw one two months ago going for $200 like new. It was an M48 contract, no better or worse than others.

Thanks for the web site, just what I have been looking for:)

Okiecruffler
March 31, 2003, 05:57 PM
Just be careful over there. You even mention the word "sporterize" and they'll pistol whip, hog tie you and tattoo "bubba" on your forehead.

dghboy315
March 31, 2003, 07:48 PM
no problem b/c i have no idea what that means

Jim K
March 31, 2003, 10:20 PM
AFAIK, Egypt never used any Mauser bolt rifle. When they were a British "protectorate" (or whatever term was used), their army and police were armed with British weapons, which means the SMLE rifle. They later used a locally made version of the Swedish Ljungmann called the Hakim (7.9 cal) and still later there was a scaled down version called the Rasheed (7.62x39), but it was a commercial venture. Later still, they went to Russian weapons, and those, I believe, are still in use.

The only Mauser I recall with the 1894 model date was a Swedish carbine in 6.5x55.

Jim

dude
March 31, 2003, 11:35 PM
my gunsmith just got a few of these Egyptian Mausers in.............friggin bueatiful!!! They look so new it's like they were made last week.

cracked butt
March 31, 2003, 11:41 PM
does it look something like this??
http://www.armscenter.com/dutchman/94carbine.html


If it is a Model 94 Swedish carbine that the dealer thinks is an Egyptian rifle, quietly offer the dealer $120 cash for the rifle, if he doesn't budge, give him the $160 and walk away with the rifle. If its a Swdish carbine in good condition , its easily worth 4 or 5 bills. :evil:

dghboy315
March 31, 2003, 11:58 PM
i can't remember. it's close, but the front end was different. i'll have to take another look at it.

anyone have a picture of the other possiblity, Yogo 48?

cracked butt
April 1, 2003, 07:12 AM
http://www.surplusrifle.com/yugom48/index.asp

cracked butt
April 1, 2003, 07:22 AM
If its a Yugo M48 like the one pictured, $160 might be a little high of a price unless the rifle has been pretty much unused.

Check to make sure the safety works- make sure the safety switch can easily be moved through its 3 positions with the bolt cocked and in battery.

Make sure the bore is bright and shiny. For a $160 Yugo, the barrel should have no gray or dark spots in the bore. If the barrel is full of grease, ask the seller if they will clean the barrel for you, if they won't ask if you can bring your own cleaning rod to clean the bore with- it should only take a few passes with a solvent soaked patch to get most of the grease out of the barrel to get a good look at it. Also look from the muzzle end at the first 2-3" of rifling to make sure it isn't disrupted or crooked looking- I've seen a few rifles where the barrel is bulged slightly under or right behind the sight base, probably caused by a careless communist test firing the rifle without getting all of the grease out first.

Make sure the bolt closes and opens easily, it sholuldn't have a grinding feeling when you do either.

If everything looks good, and the rifle feels right, buy it, they tend to be good shooters for the price.

Tamara
April 1, 2003, 10:09 AM
no problem b/c i have no idea what that means

It means "ruin". :D

Some folks would make themselves a hunting rifle by either cutting down the wood on an old military gun and adding a scope mount, or by tearing the gun down to the action and building one from there. Some folks (like me ;) ) think that, for the most part, this has been done to enough old warhorses and that the remaining ones should be allowed out to pasture in peace, so to speak, left in their original condition.

dude
April 1, 2003, 10:47 AM
Ah, but America is a wonderful country aint it. My smith has them (and lots of others) just for cutting up...........but he does sell some 'as is'

dghboy315
April 1, 2003, 11:11 AM
it's definately a yugo M48.

cracked butt,
thanks for the website. that was just what i was looking for

as for the condition of the rifle, it was not new, but looked very well loved. action felt very good. i will do those checks you suggested.

thanks

my next question is - how is the 8mm round? how does it compare to the .308 and .223, balistics wise and cost?

Okiecruffler
April 1, 2003, 11:20 AM
Lots of places have Turk surplus for around $5/70 rds. Very cheap, but it is corrosive and loaded very hot. I have great luck with my M48A and the Turk ammo. In the same class as the '06 if you stay away from the pathetic American loads, but with more curve to the trajectory.

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