which budget 300 win. mag.


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Bummy
October 23, 2005, 07:12 PM
I looking to buy an inexpensive 300 win. mag that is reliable out to 300yrds.
The ones in mind are:
weatherby vanguard synthetic
winchester M 70
savage 111 package
Remington 710
All can be had for around $400 at the local Wally World.

I did put the Remington in lay-a-way but am having second thoughts after doing some research.
kind of leaning to-wards the weatherby because of the 1 1/2 guarantee, But I already have two savages ( 270 win. and 22-250 rem.) and have no complaints about the accuracy.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.

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Scout Sniper
October 23, 2005, 07:17 PM
I looking to buy an inexpensive 300 win. mag that is reliable out to 300yrds.
The ones in mind are:
weatherby vanguard synthetic
winchester M 70
savage 111 package
Remington 710
All can be had for around $400 at the local Wally World.

I did put the Remington in lay-a-way but am having second thoughts after doing some research.
kind of leaning to-wards the weatherby because of the 1 1/2 guarantee, But I already have two savages ( 270 win. and 22-250 rem.) and have no complaints about the accuracy.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.


I have the Winchester M70 & love it. The Savage is great too. stay the :fire: away from the Remington 710 POS!!!!

MDHunter
October 23, 2005, 09:17 PM
+1 on the Winchester or Savage, and STAY FAR AWAY from the 710!

Not sure about the Vanguards, but if memory serves me correctly there were some complaints about them a few years back, thought it had to do with the magazine or action, but can't recall for sure......

mr.trooper
October 23, 2005, 09:42 PM
300 yards?

If your asking about power, 270 is reliable past 300 yards for virtual everyhting in north america, and the 300 magnums are good farther than you can accuratley hit game. (wind and unknown distance assumed)

If your asking about accuracy of the guns, The winchester or Savage should be able to shoot sub-MOA, with a little help.

As mentioned, avoid the Remington.

i would give the savage the nod, assuming you wernt talking about the 300 WSM. If that were the case, id gof or the winchester. otherwise, go Savage, and get acutriger.

BTW: stay away from the Weatherby vanguards. If you want one, just go strait to the source: HOWA OF JAPAN. They make the barrels and actions for the vanguards. only difference betweene the vanguard and the Howa 1500 is that the stock is from weatherby.

paul105
October 23, 2005, 09:55 PM
Seriously consider the Savage, especially if it has the accu trigger.

I have a Weatherby Vanguard in 30-06. It is a fine rifle, but it is heavy, and it, as well as the others will need a trigger job. My son has a Model 70 .300 Mag Classic Stainless Synthetic, it too is a fine, accurate rifle but it is also quite heavy.

Heavy is both good and bad, it absorbs recoil, and helps steady the rifle while sighting. However, if you're doing a lot of high mountain hiking it becomes a burden after a long day at 6,000 or 7,000 feet of up and down.

If you are in a stand heavy is a bonus.

I'd also avoid the Rem 710.

FWIW

Paul

Fumbler
October 23, 2005, 10:03 PM
With the modern bolt action rifles on the market these days, a 1.5MOA guarantee means nothing....unless you're considering a Ruger M77 (which you aren't, it just brought up a thought). I have heard quite a few say their rugers wouldnt shoot better than 3MOA and complained to Ruger. Ruger's reply was it meets factory standards and that was it.

I would stay away from the 710. Its' cheaply constructed and a 700 isn't that much more expensive.

You already have two Savages and have had good luck with the accuracy (not surprising), so you could always go with that...
OR you could buy an aftermarket 300 Winmag barrel, bolt head, wrench, and headspace guage for your 270 and convert it yourself.

of what you listed, I'd go with either the Vanguard or M70. I've owned a push feed M70 and it would shoot 1.25-1.5MOA with most hunting ammo. It was a pretty nice rifle, but nothing spectacular. I do really like the safety though.
I probably wouldn't get the Savage simply because I like variety.

browningguy
October 23, 2005, 11:02 PM
I think any of the others would be better than the 710. I've got a Vanguard deluxe in '06 and it's a good shooter, they also have adjustable triggers. I did free float the barrel on the Vanguard but that's a 5 minute job with a dremel tool.The Savages seem to almost always be good shooters,and if you get one with the Accutrigger that's a bonus.

brentwal
October 24, 2005, 02:30 AM
Anything but the Rem 710.

Savage would be my first choice but the Winchester would be a very close second.

I have two Vanguards and love them, but....

salty
October 24, 2005, 09:09 AM
Vanguard or Savage - ??? doesn't your local gun shop offer anything - Wally world is not all that gun friendly and the money doesn't stay in your community.

rbullom
October 24, 2005, 01:04 PM
If your using this for hunting stay away from the Savage accu-trigger. Stationary targets only. Savage is a good choice just don't get it with this trigger. I have one and like it for the bench but hate it for hunting.

iamkris
October 24, 2005, 01:10 PM
+1 on the comment about "within 300 yards".

There isn't much walking in North America that can't be handled by the power of a .30-06, .270, .308. If it is trajectory that you are worrying about , within 300 yards the trajectory of all of these is completely manageable...I think a 200 yard zero for a .308 is roughly 2" high at 100 and 8-9" low at 300.

Essex County
October 24, 2005, 02:10 PM
What on earth are you talking about? Please explain. Thanks. Essex

Gewehr98
October 24, 2005, 02:32 PM
I'd almost fallen out of my chair when I read that Bummy wanted a .300 Win Mag because he needs reliable shots out to 300 yards. ***? :scrutiny:

Bummy, have you never test fired your .270 Winchester out to 300 yards?


+1 on the AccuTrigger fiasco, Rbullom. I loathe those abominations. Luckily, there's a fix for them. A place called www.riflebasix.com sells a drop-in adjustable replacement, and the new Stevens Model 200 is the same rifle as the Savage, sans AccuTrigger. ;)

rbullom
October 24, 2005, 06:46 PM
[QUOTE=mr.trooper]300 yards?


i would give the savage the nod, assuming you wernt talking about the 300 WSM. If that were the case, id gof or the winchester. otherwise, go Savage, and get acutriger.
Essex,
This is what I'm talking about.

Bummy
October 24, 2005, 07:23 PM
I know the 270 is good out to 300 yards.
I am looking for an in expensive 300 win. mag. that is still accurate at 300
I know the savage is a great rifle for the price, but since I already have two savages I was looking a a different brand of rifle. My big concern is paying more money for a rifle that is less accurate.

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