I don't understand why people keep saying Glocks.....


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cslinger
March 31, 2003, 10:26 AM
are as close to a revolver as a semi auto can get. I have either read or heard this quite a bit recently and I am sorry but I have to disagree.

Glocks are wonderful combat pistols with a stellar reputation, some small issues not withstanding. I have owned a Glock 30 that was great so I am not a Glock basher. I just worry that some new gun purchaser is going to buy a Glock because somebody tells them it is just like a revolver.

If you want a semi that is similar to a revolver you need to have a heavy double action trigger and the ability to double strike if need be. Glocks provide neither of these.

This is the reason I tend not to recommend Glock to a new shooter because they offer far less brain fart area then a good double action revolver or a good double action only handgun.

Sorry, I just felt the need to share. Once again, I have no problem with Glocks. Sometimes I think part of the problem of the ADs with Glocks is because people are treating them like a standard revolver and not taking into account that relatively light trigger or even pocket or Mexican carrrying them, which you really shouldn't do with any firearm but lets face it doing this with a true double action only firearm is much safer then with a Glock.

I just happen to read a few thread hear and other places over the past few days not to mention hearing people talk at a gun store. Just felt the need to give my opinion. That and a buck might get you a cup a coffee.:D

Chris

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Tamara
March 31, 2003, 11:00 AM
No, my Beretta 96D is "just like a revolver"; that's why it's my "bed gun". It has a sweet DAO trigger that feels like the one on a well-built PPC gun.

seeker_two
March 31, 2003, 11:50 AM
I'm with you. If Glocks came standard w/ NY or NY+ triggers, I'd agree w/ the "revolver-like" aspects. That's why I prefer other makers' DAO's to start new shooters...

briantf
March 31, 2003, 11:58 AM
There's plenty to criticize Glock's for, but it seems a reach to blame an inanimate object for dumb#$$ comments from clueless counter people. I *never* hear people talking out their nether regions in gunshops!

I've never heard that Glock's are just like a revolver, nor can I imagine someone saying that after having shot one. I still recommend a .357 revolver for first-time pistol buyers, just like I recommend a pump 12 Ga. for first time shotgun buyers. I don't think adults need to start with a .22 rifle, that's a specialists gun for a grown up.

I certainly agree with the sentiment that Glock's require a higher level of training and are not appropriate for a new civilian shooter. The PD's in CA commonly require the completion of an extensive training program before allowing issue of Glock's (Salinas was 60 hrs?? or something like that).

This seems reasonable given the number of LEO's in CA that have never touched a gun before POST (ex-Chief around here told me he had officers that wouldn't CARRY a gun if it wasn't Dept. policy!).

Regards,
Brian in CA

Poohgyrr
March 31, 2003, 01:40 PM
I've heard the same thing about Sigs TDA's as well. But for my two cents, this is kinda like the "tastes like chicken" saying. And no, frogs legs do not taste like chicken, they taste like frogs legs.

Anyway, there is no doubt that my M24 is as close to a revolver as can be. Oh yeah, it is a revolver :).... :neener:

Mike Irwin
March 31, 2003, 01:53 PM
My Kahr K9 is one hell of a lot more revolver like than any Glock I've ever shot.

The first shot on my Beretta 92 is REALLY revolver like.

bountyhunter
March 31, 2003, 06:38 PM
"The first shot on my Beretta 92 is REALLY revolver like."

Mine too, and Berettas also have the best safety around.

Personally, I think it's an insult to revolvers to say Glocks are like them. Glock triggers are like fingernails on a chalk board.

Handy
March 31, 2003, 08:10 PM
Revolver DA triggers don't reset like a Glock, either. That's a huge difference.

bad_dad_brad
March 31, 2003, 08:18 PM
Ditto Mike Irwin.

Kahrs are closer to slick tuned DAO revolvers. Glocks are somewhat unique.

I have a SP101 and a MK9. The MK9 has a sweeter trigger, but it acts the same as the SP101. I have two Glocks. There is the Glock take up, and then the final let off is more rifle like.

I am fond of the stock Glock trigger. It works for me.

4thHorseman
March 31, 2003, 10:01 PM
bountyhunter - "Personally, I think it's an insult to revolvers to say Glocks are like them. Glock triggers are like fingernails on a chalk board."

bountyhunter, you are hard man!:D

El Tejon
March 31, 2003, 10:05 PM
I guess it depends on what kind of revolver, no?:D

Mike Irwin
March 31, 2003, 10:16 PM
"Mine too, and Berettas also have the best safety around."

Betcha my safety's not like yours!

I've got an older Italian 92, straight 92, no letters.

No decocker, no firing pin block, and a frame-mounted safety that acts like that found on a 1911.

hansolo
March 31, 2003, 10:35 PM
a glock is like a revolver

That's like saying a Charter Arms .357 is "like" a S&W 686.....:eek:

Pendragon
April 1, 2003, 06:03 AM
Yeah, what they said.

Don't insult revolvers.

I vastly prefer the triggers on my S&W Model 10 and 638 to a Glock.

They may actually be heavier, but they are much smoother. I find Glocks all but unshootable myself.

I think the reason some people may say that is that they Glock has not safetys or anything you really need to do to get the pistol into action - and regardless of how a Glock works, it always has a consistent trigger pull - like a revolver.

I think continuing this discussion could be considered libel in some states ;)

Admiral Thrawn
April 1, 2003, 09:51 AM
All this fuss about Glocks needing more training... :confused:

A Glock 17 was the first handgun I fired and became familiar with after being introduced to guns with a Ruger .22LR pistol.

All that really needs to be taken into consideration when carrying Glocks is:

1. Use a holster; one that safely covers the trigger guard.

2. Trigger control; keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot.

By following these two simple guidelines, it is virtually impossible to have an AD/ND, because with the trigger guard covered by a holster most of the time, and the rest the time the trigger free of your finger, how could the gun go off by itself?

The only reason people have accidents with Glocks in particular is because they violate one or both of the rules above.

Erik Jensen
April 1, 2003, 07:56 PM
hey Mike... if you ever want to sell that early 92, I just *might* know someone who wants it......:p :p :D

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