New James Bond Hates Guns


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Guyon
October 25, 2005, 07:36 PM
Interesting casting decision.

http://www.thisislondon.com/showbiz/articles/20728233?source=PA&ct=5

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BHPshooter
October 25, 2005, 07:38 PM
:rolleyes: Yet he's certainly willing to make millions of dollars by using one in front of a camera.

I'm so sick of bleeding hearts.

Wes

silverlance
October 25, 2005, 07:42 PM
so how many movies will we see craig in?

Cosmoline
October 25, 2005, 07:44 PM
He's following in the footsteps of Roger Moore. But frankly most all of them have been antis. They're British actors, after all.

stevelyn
October 25, 2005, 07:47 PM
News Flash

All the James Bonds hate guns. From Sean Connery to the present incarnation. Roger Moore in particular not only hates guns, but what he calls blood sports like hunting.
However, being Brits and having been brainwashed into submission you can't expect much from them anyway.

Just stating fact. Not intended to offend members of this board who happen to be British subjects.

berettashotgun
October 25, 2005, 07:57 PM
They're gay:neener: Like in a REAL HAPPY kinda' way......

Ransom
October 25, 2005, 08:00 PM
He was in the movie Layer Cake and that movie is awesome. Personal politics aside its nice that they got a decent actor to play the part.

Texas Gun Runner
October 25, 2005, 08:08 PM
You guys act like British actors are the only antigunners in Hollywood! Has everyone forgotten about the Governator? What about Stallone? A vast majority of actors are huge hypocrites who are willing to make money off of action movies where they use guns, but in actuality want the government to go door to door to take all weapons from us "commoners" who can't be trusted to defend ourselves.:fire: What's really amusing are the antigun actors and other celebrities who want guns taken out of the hands of common citizens, but have personal bodyguards that are armed with firearms most of us only dream of owning.

Boss Spearman
October 25, 2005, 08:53 PM
Well, I don't watch Stallone or Schwarzenneger.

I like Bruce Willis, Tom Selleck, Eastwood. I like Ben Affleck now after hearing about his pro gun lecture on a talk show recently.

I will admit to being a big fan of Johhny Depp. I'm not sure of his stance on guns however.

nextjoe
October 25, 2005, 08:57 PM
I've seen a picture of Johnny Depp and Hunter S. Thompson buying a pair of scoped Freedom Arms .454 Casulls together, for whatever it's worth...

Rob1035
October 25, 2005, 08:58 PM
i dont get it, this guy sucks because he doesn't like guns like we do?

Boss Spearman
October 25, 2005, 09:02 PM
I wouldn't say that. I've watched all of the Bond films and will likely watch this guy. I just don't watch Stallone or Arnold because I don't think they're good actors.

In fact, the only Stallone movie I saw I really enjoyed was FIST, and that's the one he did that was universally panned.

iamkris
October 25, 2005, 09:05 PM
Apparently Depp does like guns...although I like how they say "a habit he got from his father" in the same way someone might say "he's a pedophile, a habit he got from his father"

But though he sought normality in the day-to-day, his roles were now far from normal. He played Hunter S. Thompson in Terry Gilliam's freaky Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas, having researched his part by living in the man's house, drinking and shooting with him (Depp has a huge collection of guns, a habit he got from his father), and setting off 75-foot explosions.

http://www.tiscali.co.uk/entertainment/film/biographies/johnny_depp_biog/3

shermacman
October 25, 2005, 09:06 PM
i dont get it, this guy sucks because he doesn't like guns like we do?


Yup. Same as a politician. His stance on guns makes the difference between whether I:
A) Vote for him
B) See his movie

Simple, really.

ExtremeDooty
October 25, 2005, 09:10 PM
i dont get it, this guy sucks because he doesn't like guns like we do?

Yes...that's essentially correct.

Funny how you forgot about the part where he takes big money to use one of those dangerous and dreadful handguns in a movie.

Boss Spearman
October 25, 2005, 09:12 PM
Cool. Captain Jack Sparrow is the best movie pirate of all time IMO. I've not seen any film with Depp in it that was not good.

Rob1035
October 25, 2005, 09:17 PM
I didn't forget, I just wondered how his politics affected his skill as an actor, thats all.

I think the new bonds wont be very good simply because the series has gone everywhere and needs to die, but I liked Craig in Layer Cake. Oh well.

bulbboy
October 25, 2005, 09:21 PM
Great actor - stupid person

Rob1035
October 25, 2005, 09:24 PM
Great actor - stupid person


that's what i'm getting at. Now when he starts campaigning for the brady bunch or something like that, i would actively boycott his stuff

TrafficMan
October 25, 2005, 09:28 PM
personally, i think actors should keep their big fat mouths shut and just do the damn job.

mole
October 25, 2005, 09:31 PM
"Bullets have a nasty habit of finding their target and that's what's scary about them."

Gee, isn't that the point?

3rdpig
October 25, 2005, 09:33 PM
I've reached the point where I can no longer enjoy the work, or the products, of artists, actors and companies that are rabidly anti gun, or rabid left wingers, etc. I'm not going to put down those of you that do, but I just can't. I've found that if I look a little bit, I'll find a company or artist that produces a similar product that I'm happier giving my money to and can enjoy without feeling like a boob for contributing to them.

Boss Spearman
October 25, 2005, 09:43 PM
I certainly don't like programs with anti-gun messages (Boston Legal last week was horrible, for example).

I'm not sure if I'll watch Lord of War or not. I hear statements it's anti and statements it's pro.

EddieCoyle
October 25, 2005, 10:14 PM
It's the guns that are bad. The poor disadvantaged soul behind it pulling the trigger is really the victim.:cuss:

scott5
October 25, 2005, 10:28 PM
Most TV I don't watch because,
I'm not going to pay good money/waist my time on something
that is anti-God, anti-family, anti-father, anti-parent, anti-Christian, anti-American culture, anti-everything we gun owner/lovers hold dear.:fire: :banghead:

These hollyweed leftists live such a decadent onscreen lifestyle, and there offscreen life is somtimes trash too, then at the awards serimony they get up in front of the micriphone and insult our inteligence with a moral lecture:barf:

OK I will get off of my soap box now

Boss Spearman
October 25, 2005, 10:34 PM
I saw Boston Legal because someone had it on here at work. I watch almost nothing on network television.

Rob1035
October 25, 2005, 11:00 PM
I watch almost nothing on network television.

I've got you beat, I dont have cable at all. I sure miss the history channel though:cool:

CAPTAIN MIKE
October 25, 2005, 11:01 PM
I have been enjoying James Bond movies since I was like....uh, 12 years old.

My two favorite Bond guys were Sean Connery and Pierce Brosnan, both of whom seemed "naturals" for the role. The rest of them including Roger Moore all seemed like James Bond wannabes to me. I still enjoyed the movies, don't get me wrong, but the guys who were neither Sean Connery nor Pierce Brosnan all seemed like fill-in substitutes. Know what I mean?

Okay, so the new guy hates guns. Too bad, so sad. His loss. Being a Brit he is probably so brainwashed that he buys into that wasted use of a perfectly good brain. His loss.

The rest of us should keep training, keep our skill levels up, and try to do everything we can to Stand Tall & Shoot Straight.

Legionnaire
October 25, 2005, 11:10 PM
Too bad. Still hope it's a good movie. And it's "Shaken, not stirred."

Rob1035
October 25, 2005, 11:13 PM
I was actually really happy with the way "Batman Begins" came out compared to the earlier versions, hopefully this one will be good as well, although, again I think 007's time has gone...

Boss Spearman
October 25, 2005, 11:21 PM
I have Directv, so History Channel, TLC, Military Channel, Scifi Channel, some stuff on A&E pretty much dominates any viewing I do, apart from watching my White Sox in the World Series.

GregGry
October 26, 2005, 01:18 AM
Handguns are used to shoot people and as long as they are around, people will shoot each other. I don't know, people use base ball bats, knives, irons, fists, chains, sticks, belts, and anything else to hurt each other. With his logic Almost everything in society isn't good. Why people are anti gun, I don't know. They are just plain confused, instead of being anti-gun, they should be anti criminal.

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
October 26, 2005, 01:34 AM
The *new* Bond?

meowmeowmeowmeowmeowmeowmeowmeowmeowmeowmeowmeowmeowmeow.


and yer Ian Fleming, too. Hoplophobe.


Regards,
Rabbit.

Darth Ruger
October 26, 2005, 10:42 AM
I like Bruce Willis...You mean the guy with the "German porcelain Glock 7"?

Justin
October 26, 2005, 11:26 AM
In fact, the only Stallone movie I saw I really enjoyed was FIST, and that's the one he did that was universally panned.

No love for Judge Dredd or Stop or My Mom Will Shoot!?

You mean the guy with the "German porcelain Glock 7"?

I've not seen any interviews where Bruce Willis comes out as antigun. At least as of several years ago he openly acknowledged himself as a conservative.

Actors don't write the scripts, they just say what's printed on them.

mec
October 26, 2005, 11:51 AM
fleming made his bucks off of gun enthusiats who read his books. Sold a lot of small 25s and walther ppks too. Then he did an interview with playboy in which he deplored "gun nuts" writing him about his ignorance on the subject of guns. Their main complain with the .25 auto cartridge which he finally replaced with the infinately powerful .32. He insisted that Bothroyd convince him of the need rather than the "gun nuts who really are nuts."

Darth Ruger
October 26, 2005, 01:09 PM
"That punk pulled a Glock 7 on me! You know what that is? It's a porcelain gun made in Germany. It doesn't show up on your airport X-ray machines, and it cost more than you make here in a month."
- Bruce Willis, Die Hard 2

I've not seen any interviews where Bruce Willis comes out as antigun. At least as of several years ago he openly acknowledged himself as a conservative.Which would make it even worse. His comments about Glocks were in part responsible for all the hysteria about them at the time. So what's worse... a hypocritical actor who makes millions playing trigger-happy action heroes and then claims to be a pacifist and preach gun control to the masses, or a conservative pro-gun actor who doesn't care how his comments about guns will be perceived by the public as long as it makes him millions?


Actors don't write the scripts, they just say what's printed on them.Yep, and they don't care what the script says, as long as it makes them rich and famous.

The Hollywood ideal is money and worldwide fame before truth and personal integrity.

Dr.Rob
October 26, 2005, 01:22 PM
So what? He was brilliant in "Layer Cake"...

Bond is a fictional character for crying out loud... I mean really doesn't it bug all you nay sayers that you are more than happy to suspend your disbeleif that a foppish British spy can save the world on a yearly basis with no help from us "American yahoos" but you decry the ACTOR, an unarmed British subject because he's anti-gun?

Mec has a point, Fleming was pretty anti-gun, didn't affect the sales of PPK's. What about Brosnan's blatant "Oh look the new Walther, I've been meaning to get one of those." (of course they also did that for BMW, etc)

You realize Walther released a 007 limited edition of the P99? Walther knows where its bread is buttered.

enfield303
October 26, 2005, 01:36 PM
Now here I thought guns were more danerous when the bullet did NOT find the target! Wow, I have been wrong for so long.....


(Ain't sarcasm grand?)

Darth Ruger
October 26, 2005, 01:41 PM
...doesn't it bug all you nay sayers that you are more than happy to suspend your disbeleif that a foppish British spy can save the world on a yearly basis with no help from us "American yahoos"...I stopped watching James Bond movies about twenty years ago because they got more stupid with each one. So no, it doesn't bug me to point out how hypocritical the actors are.

Iain
October 26, 2005, 02:56 PM
That's two comments now about brainwashed Brits.

Funny, a lot of not particularly thoughtful Brits I know think Americans are brainwashed.

Really, if 'celebrities' are going to annoy you when they talk, as they do me, it's best not to listen. Mel Gibson seems to not like Brits, but he's done the odd decent film and I'll watch them.

enfield303
October 26, 2005, 03:06 PM
Oh, c'mon Iain, just because he has made a couple of movies where he hacks up British subjects doesn't mean Mel doesn't like Brits.....They go to movies too.:D :evil: :D

Iain
October 26, 2005, 03:11 PM
Oh, c'mon Iain, just because he has made a couple of movies where he hacks up British subjects doesn't mean Mel doesn't like Brits.....They go to movies too.:D :evil: :D

It's not so much the hacking, as the being hacked by. British people are evil. The Death Star was full of them. Bet Mel is a huge Star Wars fan.

Dr.Rob
October 26, 2005, 03:17 PM
No I called him an unarmed British subject.

Not the same as being brainwashed.

What's alarming is our apparent need as the last super power in the world to rely on oversexed martini swilling gadget monger to save our bacon when some meglomaniac in a nehru jacket decideds to carve his initials in the moon.

;)

Where's Matt Helm when you need him... our "Our man Flynt"?

Huh?

Frandy
October 26, 2005, 03:49 PM
Where's Matt Helm when you need him... our "Our man Flynt"?


Uh oh, Dr. Rob, now we're gonna hear from people who know about Coburn's last film (I think his last), American Gun.

If you vote with your wallet, I understand either supporting or shunning any public figure, including those who make their money as actors. I won't give Woody Allen my money any longer, despite my being a native New Yorker who gets his humor/point of view. His personal life just offends my sensibilities, so I won't pass my money over his way. So, avoid the new Bond or any other actor/role if it offends yours.

But please, lighten up. I own firearms, I defend my ownership of guns when others question it (remember, I'm an anomaly, the moderate-liberal who owns and shoots - it's sooo much fun defending when not a conservative-leaning "gun nut" :D ), but this guy was interviewed and he stated his beliefs. I thought that was freedom of speech? I don't expect everyone to embrace my ideas. I don't expect everyone to like guns. I don't expect everyone to understand guns. I might wince when ignorant statements are made, but trust me, we are all ignorant about something.

End of rant. ;)

Darth Ruger
October 26, 2005, 04:07 PM
...this guy was interviewed and he stated his beliefs. I thought that was freedom of speech?It is freedom of speech, but that's an entirely different topic. No one said he couldn't speak his mind. We're just pointing out how much of a hypocrite he is. :D

Justin
October 26, 2005, 04:41 PM
Which would make it even worse. His comments about Glocks were in part responsible for all the hysteria about them at the time. So what's worse... a hypocritical actor who makes millions playing trigger-happy action heroes and then claims to be a pacifist and preach gun control to the masses, or a conservative pro-gun actor who doesn't care how his comments about guns will be perceived by the public as long as it makes him millions?

Or could it simply be that in real life guns aren't his thing, and he simply didn't know any better? I mean, has the RKBA fight been so successful for us that we now have nothing better to do than to get pedantic about a line of dialogue uttered in a movie that came out over a decade ago?


The Hollywood ideal is money and worldwide fame before truth and personal integrity.

You say that like it's a bad thing. ;)

Dr.Rob
October 26, 2005, 04:59 PM
What's alarming is our apparent need as the last super power in the world to rely on oversexed martini swilling gadget monger to save our bacon when some meglomaniac in a nehru jacket decideds to carve his initials in the moon.

How the heck was that taken seriously? Did you miss the winking smiley?

I was considering saying "lighten up" earlier.

It's just a movie and he's just an actor.

afasano
October 26, 2005, 05:04 PM
Who's been watching to see Bond? I watch to see the bond babes. :evil:
Good night James, Good night, Good-night. :evil:

enfield303
October 26, 2005, 05:25 PM
I was kinda hoping that they would get Clive Owen to play Bond. Anybody seen the BMW films?

Darth Ruger
October 26, 2005, 05:38 PM
Or could it simply be that in real life guns aren't his thing, and he simply didn't know any better?Possibly. Good point.


I mean, has the RKBA fight been so successful for us that we now have nothing better to do than to get pedantic about a line of dialogue uttered in a movie that came out over a decade ago?I understand your point with that one, but you're trivializing a "line of dialogue" that had effects that went beyond the front door of the movie theater. Glocks had this myterious aura already in the minds of the public, but Bruce Willis' description of them made the problem worse and made our fight for our rights that much more difficult. It's an example of popular entertainment having an impact on politics. It didn't change the world, of course, but it was a little more important than you make it sound.

It sure gave ol' Gaston a few headaches. :D

Iain
October 26, 2005, 06:36 PM
I was kinda hoping that they would get Clive Owen to play Bond. Anybody seen the BMW films?

Was never going to happen. Owen is too successful in his own right to want to be saddled with the 'Bond' tag.

nfl1990
October 26, 2005, 07:14 PM
Bullets have a nasty habit of finding their target and that's what's scary about them.

Does anyone know where I can find these homing bullets... of course they're probaly expensive.

And why did they need to find a new guy? Dye Connery's hair black, and put back in.

Matthew748
October 26, 2005, 07:27 PM
Frankly, I never liked any of the James Bond stuff. As far as the actor goes, I have no use for limousine liberals.

Flatfender
October 26, 2005, 07:27 PM
In Russia, guns hate James Bond! :p

WarMachine
October 26, 2005, 09:50 PM
In Soviet Russia, the martinis shake YOU!

PCGS65
October 27, 2005, 01:25 AM
Doesn't like guns but he likes the money he will make doing something he doesn't like.............OH WAIT.........I'm just like him,I don't like work but I like the money I'll make doing it.

Roger Moore, who played the superspy from 1973 to 1985, said after quitting the role that he hated "that awful pose" of Bond with his gun which has become an iconic movie image.
The actor later became an ambassador for children's charity Unicef and declared: "Today I am completely opposed to small arms and what they can do to children. I played every role tongue-in-cheek because I don't really believe in that sort of hero. I don't like guns."

Roger Moore(great actor)must hate people too. Because people hurt children not guns.

Boss Spearman
October 27, 2005, 02:28 AM
You mean the guy with the "German porcelain Glock 7"?


Yeah, that's him! :)

Willis is pro gun. He has an engraved Beretta 92FS with his name on it. I know that alone doesn't make it so, but he's not an anti.

Judge Dredd was ok, never saw the Stop movie. It looked really stupid to me, so I never watched it.

As for superspies, I'll take Matt Helm over Bond anyday of the week! :)

gunsmith
October 27, 2005, 09:53 AM
I've reached the point where I can no longer enjoy the work, or the products, of artists, actors and companies that are rabidly anti gun, or rabid left wingers, etc. I'm not going to put down those of you that do, but I just can't. I've found that if I look a little bit, I'll find a company or artist that produces a similar product that I'm happier giving my money to and can enjoy without feeling like a boob for contributing to them.

heck with the anti gun or extreme lefties, I work to hard for my $$ and they aint getting a thin dime of my $$ if I can help it.

For instance Penn and that other guy Tim something or other I hatew them so much I can't even look at commericials with them in it

shermacman
October 27, 2005, 11:22 AM
Gunsmith is absolutely correct. I will not spend money to watch the most brilliant performer if I know that at heart he is a Barking Moonbat.

My sock drawer needs straightening.

RobW
October 27, 2005, 03:26 PM
Yeah, Matt Helm was da man! But, these actors/entertainers were a total different breed than today's and America was still America and no hoochy goochy feel good dreamland where the criminal is the victim, and the victim is despicable.

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