[HD]

i finally consigned my last , best , 1911 to the 9th drawer of the safe today , no gun ever returns to service from there ...
i think it was the thread about tolerence stacking that finally did me in , that and the conversation with da tuna' last night about same ...
i realise things have changed in the last 35 years and not for the good...
the days of OOTB reliability in a 1911 are in the dim dark past ; never to return ...
it is now replaced by SIGs and CZs and even an S&W , all of which function perfectly with no effort on my part ...
i guess nothing lasts forever , not even the myth of the 1911...:mad: :(
it will be replaced by a sig 245 and a sig x5 6" bullseye in 9mm...:evil: ;) :uhoh:

[ChuckB]

Sorry to hear that, HD. My S.A. Loaded has thousands of rounds through it, and my friend "fedlaw" has a bazillion through his Kimber- all without a hitch. What good does it do you to have it in your Drawer of No Return? You should either get it fixed- correctly- or find some poor THR person who would love to give some TLC to a 1911, thus saving it from the dark, dank bowels of your safe!:rolleyes:

Chuck

[HD]

bleeping fracking frocking SA has sold me their last pistol ever , of the last 9 , every one had a bad extractor or other issue (3.5" barrel in a 4" slide anyone?)... fed up tired disgusted (kimber/para are even worse)...
no more , keeping this as a reminder what not to do again...:cuss:

[ulflyer]

I might even trade you a Nork for it....tried and true, shoots every time, accurately, no frills, Nork. Sounds like yours needs the attention of
Tuner1911.

Edited to add: Whoops, we posted at the same time and I didn't realize your 9th Drawer was one of the wee little ones. I think Tuner would turn his dozen or so dogs loose on anyone bringing him another micro.

[HD]

this is a fullsized loaded w/ns ... crap extractor , undersized fpsp , cheesegrater grips , ... tackdriver , but not to be trusted as shipped from factory...
nah , i wouldn't do that to tuna' hes got enough grief , i mean hes married and has a dozen dogs , he needs our sympathy...:neener:

[Old Fuff]

I wouldn't do that to tuna' he's got enough grief , i mean he's married and has a dozen dogs , he needs our sympathy...

Oh gee ... gosh .... Is that why he drinks ..... :eek:

Turbocoffee!

[VARifleman]

Funny thing you mention tolerance stacking, we just went over that yesterday in my graphics class. :uhoh: (it's a conspiracy)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y192/TAKnight/afdb.jpg

[Jammer Six]

So, will that useless piece of crap be up for sale, then?

[Old Fuff]

The legend of the 1911 is no myth. It was first started in the badlands of northern Mexico when General “Blackjack” Pershing went after Pancho Villa following his raid on Columbus, NM.

It added to its laurels during the First World War, where it became known as “the” handgun for close-quarter work in the enemy’s trenches, where it performed with reliability in horrible environmental conditions.

Between the World Wars our military forces used it in the jungles of Central America and Haiti to the rivers in China, and it again proved its worth no matter what the conditions.

And during the middle latter 1930’s and 40’s many Texas Ranges carried a “Government .45,” sometimes in pairs – cocked & locked, long before Col. Cooper made the concept popular.

During World War Two, in Korea, and in Viet Nam it again lived up to its hard won reputation.

But the guns being assembled today (they are hardly built, just put together) are not the same arms that performed so magnificently in the past. Most of them are but sad counterfeits of the real thing, filled with parts made of degraded materials with little resemblance to original blueprint dimensions or specifications.

And they sometimes fail ....

Garbage in ... garbage out ...

If one can do without the numerous and superfluous gimmicks that adorn so much of the current production, serving somehow to cover the basic faults and poor workmanship, they can seek out and buy one of the older guns that is still a good shooter. These are afordable so long as they are not in such a condition as to attract collectors, who are most interested in examples in pristine original condition. With a little reconditioning, some decent magazines, and perhaps a new set of springs these will soon prove that the legend is indeed no myth.

It is sometimes said that only the foolish will accept bogus money. The same might be said about firearms ...

[Jammer Six]

Be quiet, old man!

He's trying to sell a useless piece of crap, and I'm trying to help him out.

We're getting along just fine, and here you come, making everyone all higglety pigglety!

What's wrong with you? Can't you just get along with folks? :fire:

[Shootcraps]

Have you named this river? :rolleyes:

[1911Tuner]

Henry, Henry...There is salvation amongst the hellions. Seek and find a decent, '44-'45 Colt or Rand that's correct or original. Pay the scalper's price and take it home. Tear it down and replace the springs and give it a good scrubbin' and oilin'. I'll donate a couple of good magazines for the cause...because they'll go to work with a real 1911A1...and therefore will be doin' an honorable service. You won't likely give much more...or maybe not AS much...than your would for a Springfield Pro...and you'll have a real pistol.
Don't ignore the finish-bare "dogs" or the arsenal refurbished mongrels either.
They're still good and are perfect candidates for a barrel upgrade and/or slide tightening/refitting without killin' whatever collector status they may have...and you can even keep the old barrel for that if you feel the need.

I, for one, don't have a single qualm about pressing a vintage pistol into yeoman service. I carried a correct, unrefurbished 1918 Colt for several years. After all...You only pass this way once. Why not grab all you can while you're here?:cool:

[Old Fuff]

Jammer:

I never said the truth wouldn't hurt ... :uhoh:

But don't worry, there are plenty of people out there that won't heed the message. :evil: ;)

[HD]

[QUOTE=1911Tuner]Henry, Henry...There is salvation amongst the hellions. Seek and find a decent, '44-'45 Colt or Rand that's correct or original. Pay the scalper's price and take it home. Tear it down and replace the springs and give it a good scrubbin' and oilin'. I'll donate a couple of good magazines for the cause...because they'll go to work with a real 1911A1...and therefore will be doin' an honorable service. You won't likely give much more...


it is simply a matter of personal preference , i have had original service grade 1911's and made them run for years ...
i have had 87 +/-1911's in 35 years of gunwrenching ...
i just am fed up with the nonsense ...
the SA loaded now functions perfectly as a PAPERPUNCHER ; but i will not use it as a carry gun unless i have no other choice ...
to many other good/decent/functional designs out there now ...
a 9mm that works beats a 45 you have to worry about :neener:
hell , i can still get tiny little groups out of my revolvers, and my cz has never failed me as yet ...
this SIG 245 isn't perfect , but ... it works ...

[1911Tuner]

Hey...Notta thang wrong with a good wheelgun. I've been known to tote a 3-inch round-butt M-13 or an M-58 Smith on occasion. :cool:

I figger that if I can't handle it with 6 rounds, I need Divine intervention to save ol' skinny.:p