What one is better to have? As I understand it, 1927A1 can take the drum, but it is slightly longer due to compensator, and also heavier by a couple of lbs.
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October 29, 2005, 01:04 AM
IIRC, there are actually three models:
1) "Traditional" with blued receiver, finned barrel and vertical handgrip. Takes mags and drums.
2) "M1" military model. Parkerized with horizontal foregrip. Also doesn't have the finned barrel but has the Cutts compensator on the end of the barrel. Will take mags but not drums.
3) "Commando" model. Black receiver, I believe black phosphate finish; has finned barrel, horizontal foregrip, Cutts compensator and will take both mags and drums.
All models, except maybe the traditional, come either with a steel or "lightweight" aluminum receiver. The difference is about 1.5 lbs in weight. Both are rather heavy for a submachinegun.
October 30, 2005, 01:29 AM
It seem to remember that the 1927a1 has better sights adjustable vs fixed on the m1.
Oh, I was recomended against the aluminum by one of my local dealers for reliabilty reason. I can buy them in my state currently. They are real fun to shoot becuase of the low recoil due to he heavy weight.
October 30, 2005, 10:40 AM
I have the steel commando version. It functions flawlessly. Only problem I had was a little over lubrication before I shot it last time, it kept blowing oil on my shooting glasses out of the receiver. It is more a novelty gun and not much use for anything. They are heavy, the stock is too long and the sights suck but I still have no intentions of selling mine.
October 30, 2005, 05:31 PM
In my opinion, go for the M1. The 1927A1's vertical foregrip makes the gun even more unweildy than it already is, which is something that you don't need on a subgun that weighs more than two M1 Garands. Drums are irrelevant--they hold more, but are hilariously heavy and expensive. Sights are irrelevant, too--you don't need a razor front/ diopter rear on a subsonic pistol-caliber gun.
Besides... if the 1927A1 was any good, they wouldn't have changed it before sending it off to World War II.
*Flame suit on* :evil:
October 31, 2005, 10:19 AM
The drum is over-rated. It takes three hands to get it off of the gun. It also rattles when its loaded, and you cant top it off like you can a magazine. They're also harder to carry than two stick mags, and carrying two sticks gives you ten more rounds. It also gets in the way of the foregrip, not so much on the vertical but it does on the horizontal.
I suggest looking for a West Hurley gun, the Kahr Thompsons dont compare IMO. I handled one that was NIB and in worse shape (IMO) than the one I have thousands of rounds through (but the wood sure was pretty, unlike the bluing). The store I hang out at got one last week without a safety.
I own two 1927s, the A1 and the Commando model, both West Hurley guns. Accurate, reliable, and quiet. The (massive) weight does result in very little recoil, but the high bore axis makes it, um, weird. Kinda hard to explain, but you get used to it after a while.
At first, it will wear you out by quickly, but once you get used to it, you still notice the weight, but it doesnt bother you. Well, it doesn't bother me, and I'm 6ft tall weighing in at 155 (probably would bother me now, I havent shot either one of mine in a while).
I like the 1927s for the sights. Also, with the bolt handle on the top of the gun, you can work it with your support hand with ease, wether you're LHed or RHed.
The M1, with its smooth barrel, will be easier to wipe down. If you're LHed, the bolt handle is in a great spot.
Only problem I had was a little over lubrication before I shot it last time, it kept blowing oil on my shooting glasses out of the receiver.
Nice to know I'm not the only one that's done that.
October 31, 2005, 05:45 PM
I love mine and it eat everything no problem.I cast my own bullets and the 200 gr swc is very accurate.the only draw back is you go thru alot of ammo:) and it seems everyone wants to shoot it at the range.