It's all about the US Senate
LAR-15
November 1, 2005, 02:26 PM
Okay so the House is pro-gun. The Senate is not.
What are the competitive races for next year?
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Henry Bowman
November 1, 2005, 02:34 PM
DeWine (RINO -OH) is antigun and up for re-election in 2006. One of his Dem opponents is a flaming anti and one claims to be progun. The Ohio Republican Party will not allow a conservative to challenge DeWine.
They just may learn a lesson. Actually, they won't. If he gets beat by a progun Dem, they will think that DeWine wasn't "moderate" enough.:rolleyes: They will be clueless that the conservative base just stayed home and could have made the difference.
If I had my choice, I'd rather keep the RINOs and replace the antigun Dems with progun Reps. You can't always get what you want.
LAR-15
November 1, 2005, 03:11 PM
Vote for DeWine or have Schumer become Juiciary Chairman :uhoh:
As anti gun as DeWine is, he is marginalized on that issue.
If there are two antis running, vote for the Republican.
We NEED to keep Feinstein and Schumer out of positions of power.
We didn't in 1994 and paid for it.
YMMV
FeebMaster
November 1, 2005, 03:23 PM
Like it matters. The Republicans could have 90 votes in the Senate and we'd still be hearing excuses why they aren't doing anything pro-gun.
fourays2
November 1, 2005, 03:32 PM
Like it matters. The Republicans could have 90 votes in the Senate and we'd still be hearing excuses why they aren't doing anything pro-gun.
I agree, face facts most republicans are not pro-gun. we need to vote out authoritarians and vote in libertarians which ever party they're in. 2A is the real litmus test deciding libertarian/authoritarian.
petrel800
November 1, 2005, 03:35 PM
We should really just repeal the 17th ammendment and let the state legislatures vote for their senators like the founders wanted. Its been downhill since the states lost all representation at the national level.
LAR-15
November 1, 2005, 03:57 PM
Most Senate Republcians are not pro gun?
Where is your proof? Huh?
Face it ALL (save maybe Ben Nelson) Democratic senators are anti gun.
Add on Dewine, Voinovich, Snowe, Collins, Chafee, Smith, and Lugar.
Where is your filibuster proof majority?
Don't tell me people like Coburn, DeMint, Thune, Cornyn, Craig, Ensign and Vitter are anti gun. Just don't do it.
We have pro gun senators, just not enough of them.
Henry Bowman
November 1, 2005, 04:39 PM
I agree, face facts most republicans are not pro-gun. Many, many (like Dems) do not understand the Second Amendment. They are pro-"sportsman" (hunting, etc.) but do not trust us with the true intent of the Second Amendment.
Standing Wolf
November 1, 2005, 06:44 PM
What are the competitive races for next year?
The last I heard, it was still Republicrats versus Democans.
mountainclmbr
November 1, 2005, 10:00 PM
Don't contribute to the Republican Senitorial Committee. The McCains, Snowes and Chaffees will get some of it. Donate only to individuals as the Marxists are trying to take over from within.
afasano
November 1, 2005, 10:30 PM
Vote for DeWine or have Schumer become Juiciary Chairman :uhoh:
As anti gun as DeWine is, he is marginalized on that issue.
If there are two antis running, vote for the Republican.
We NEED to keep Feinstein and Schumer out of positions of power.
We didn't in 1994 and paid for it.
YMMV
Good old senator "Give me 51 votes and I'll take away your choice feinstein" sounds like an idiot every time she gives an interview to a "reporter" and she hammers away at that word. The only one in the room dumber is the reporter that sucks up. :banghead:
gc70
November 1, 2005, 10:53 PM
Vote for DeWine or have Schumer become Juiciary Chairman???
Arlen Specter is Chairman of the Judiciary Committee.
Boss Spearman
November 2, 2005, 01:48 AM
Both Indiana Senators (Lugar and Bayh) are anti gun. Lugar masquerades as a Republican, but he's a snake in the grass.
stevelyn
November 2, 2005, 03:31 AM
???
Arlen Specter is Chairman of the Judiciary Committee.
A change in the power structure of the senate will result in changes of chairmanships.
LAR-15
November 2, 2005, 08:13 AM
Both Indiana Senators (Lugar and Bayh) are anti gun. Lugar masquerades as a Republican, but he's a snake in the grass.
Boot him out in the primaries.
Henry Bowman
November 2, 2005, 10:17 AM
Boot him out in the primaries.The "party" will not allow an incumbent to be challenged. You will get zero soft money. You will be coverty marginalized by you own party and tarnished if you later try to run when the incumbent chooses to retire or even after the seat has been lost to the opposition. That's politics. :banghead:
Waitone
November 2, 2005, 11:28 AM
The soviet politboro had higher turnover than the senate or house for that matter. The party keeps members in line by telling them they will be put in competitive districts next apportionment. Must be a credible threat.
Repeal the 17th amendment (IIRC). Make senators employees of respective states and you'll see change, big time.
davec
November 2, 2005, 11:35 AM
DeWine (RINO -OH) is antigun and up for re-election in 2006. One of his Dem opponents is a flaming anti and one claims to be progun. The Ohio Republican Party will not allow a conservative to challenge DeWine.
They just may learn a lesson. Actually, they won't. If he gets beat by a progun Dem, they will think that DeWine wasn't "moderate" enough. They will be clueless that the conservative base just stayed home and could have made the difference.
If I had my choice, I'd rather keep the RINOs and replace the antigun Dems with progun Reps. You can't always get what you want.
Paul Hackett has a Ohio CCW and owns "assault weapons". His liberal Democratic primary opponent Sherrod Brown (who is a Ohio Congressman at present time) is not pro-gun in any sense of the word.
After a stong (but ultimatly unsucessful) showing in the special election for Ohios 2nd district congressional seat, Hackett was going to run against DeWine unopposed, but Bown backtracked on a promise not to run for the Senate seat and is forcing a primary.
If you live in Ohio and want a Senator who has an Ohio CCW, owns evil black rifles, and has come out publicly against gun-control then you'll vote for Paul Hackett.
I'm for limiting government. I'm for fiscal responsibility. I'm for a strong national defense. I'm for fair trade. This means I don't need Washington to tell me how to live my personal life of worship my God. And I don't need Washington to dictate what decisions my wife can make with her doctor any more than I need Washington to tell me what guns I keep in my gun safe. I fought for Iraq's freedom, not to come back and have a government tell me I can't have my freedom because the world is too dangerous. Our freedoms are what make America great and desirable to the rest of the world and any government that wants to take away its people's freedoms under the pretense of national security is what makes the world more dangerous. -- Paul Hackett, Cincinati Post July 2005
LAR-15
November 2, 2005, 05:32 PM
Paul Hackett may be 'pro gun' but he is liberal everywhere else.
In his bid for the US House NOT ONCE in his ads did he mention he was a Democrat.
Sherrod Brown is a liberal, has not blown away Iraqis and will likely win the Dem primary because of that.
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