[ahadams]

Hi Folks,

Well I got the 870 Express in the riot gun configuration and now I need to know the best way to mount a sling (this thing doesn't even have sling swivels or the mounts for sling swivels) on it. I do NOT see myself doing this on my own, at least if it involves drilling into the synthetic stock!

Here's the deal: I'm left handed, partially disabled and have only 40 percent control of my right leg. I need to be able to keep control of the shotgun even if, God forbid!, I should go down due to lack of cooperation by said right leg, which can sometimes quit without prior warning.

suggestions? ideas? drop back ten yards and punt? whaddaya think? :confused:

[Erick Gelhaus]

Ok....This'll be a lot of thinking out loud, so to speak.

You could do a simple carry strap, with minor mechanical work. Uncle Mike's makes a mag cap with the front sling swivel already in it. That would cause you to only need to drill the stock (abourt 2" in from the pad) and screw in the rear swivel.

But would that allow you to keep control of the weapon if you went down? I'm thinking not.

(Where the #^$$ is CR Sam when we need him???)

I'm thinking strongly that either a single-point or a three-point sling system may be the way to go because it will "attach" the weapon to your tosro. The drawback is that you're tied into it if there's a fight over the 'gun. The Wilderness single-point and both the Wilderness and CQB Solutions 3-point slings can be had with a fastex buckle that will let you "punch out" of the sling if you need to.

I'm leaning towards one of these, more so the single point, because you are worried about going down and still wanting / needing control of the weapon.

www.thewilderness.com
www.cqbsolutions.com

Erick

[Andrew Wyatt]

it looks like an H&K type sling is the way to go, in my opinion.


I did a post about making your own on the firing line awhile back.


http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=126069


the rear sling mount needs to be a fixed benelli type rear loop, but you can fold over a piece of the nylon over a triglide so it sticks out and bolt it to the side of the stock like this:

[shadow 1]

I would have to agree with the three point or single point sling, I myself have a 3 point sling from www.tacticaltailor.com it's fit over the end of the stock and then I purchased a side mount from Wilson Combat for ten bucks, that slips in between the barrel and magazine tube, no drilling, no fuss no muss. My friend is left handed and has the same set up, both of our 870's are set up in a tactical configuration. It's a speedy transition to your sidearm and a very fast if you have to dump the 870 for any reason.

Good luck!

[106rr]

I use Widerness sling (Giles) that attaches to the butt with velcro. The front sling swivel attaches to the mag tube behind the Choate mag extension.
This front swivel setup disassembled itself THREE times during a Shotgun II class with Louis Awerbuck's Yavapai Firearms Academy. The mag extension flew downrange like a baton round. The swivel is so thick that there isn't enough thread left on the mag tube to hold under repeated firing. Be careful of your front sling swivel.

[popeye]

I have same 870 w / factory mag extension. Mine also had no stud in butt. Take off buttpad. You will see molded "boss" area inside. My buddy has "marine finish" gun in same config as mine. Same stock as mine. His gun has same boss inside, but it came from factory with stud installed. I filed a"flat" on my stock over boss area and carefully drilled hole. Screwed in stud which had approx. 1/2" screw portion. Also used epoxy..

[ahadams]

okay, now I have to find a gunsmith in the western part of MO to do this for me - thanks for the info popeye, but I'm *not* the sort of person to try drilling into a gunstock on my own - have no background in woodworking or any of that...hmm....

[ahadams]

given that I can't find someone who knows how to do all of the sling swivel mounting stuff that needs to be done, are there SIMPLE and EASY (as in the K.I.S.S. principle with me being as S. as you might care to imagine when it comes to hand tools and firearms) ways to mount the sling swivels on a synthetic stocked 870 Express?

[shadow 1]

Mr. Adams, if I recall my synthetic stock for my 870 was pre-drilled for mounting some kind of sling swilvel or mount, it's currently sitting in my basement as I have replaced it with a shorter LOP stock, if I am correct, I would be more than happy to send it to you. Please email me.

[TechBrute]

http://www.cqbsolutions.com/remsling.htm The package includes all the needed mounts.

[Cavedweller]

I suggest the Wilderness Single Point Sling w/ GG&G side mount plate. It's a little expense for a sling ($60), but it works great and gives the 870 a SWAT look. I'm like you, I lack all necessary skills to do anything even remotely mechanical, but installing the mount and sling is extremely simple. Remove buttstock, insert mount, replace buttstock. All you need is a screwdriver.

[444]

I have the single point sling that is mentioned by Cavedweller
on both my Mossberg shotgun and on several AR15s. It is easy to install as mentioned. I used the sling on my AR during a five day carbine class and it was terrific. Out of all the people in the class, I saw a number of different sling designs and in the end, I wouldn't have traded mine for any one of them. I seriously doubt that I will find a sling that I like better. I was able to shoot from all positions without any adjustment or inconvience due to my sling. I was able to transition from strong side to weak side with no adjustment of the sling. I was able to transition from carbine to handgun very easily. And, I could have both hands free with the gun hanging and not worry about it slipping off my shoulder. The shotgun sling should provide all those benefits for you.

As the name implies the sling attaches to the gun at only one point; between the action and the stock. The sling itself is basically just a loop of webbing. The loop goes over your head and under one arm. The gun will just hang, usually in front of you, but you can slide it around to the side or back if you feel the need to. As was also mentioned, the loop has a release in it, if you needed to free yourself from the gun at which time you better have a back up gun.

[Mannlicher]

buy a sling on the order of the BlackHawk V-Tac sling. Slips over the butt, and you can use a mag cap swivel to attach it to the front of the shottie.

I have sling swivel studs on all my shotguns, but I don't ever use a sling on a social gun.

[yankytrash]

Where's the riot?:scrutiny:

I'd say don't bother with the sling. You'll hate it. Get's in the way during high round count practices, like skeet shootin or duck huntin. A sling on a pump should only be for long trecks through the woods to your favorite hunting spot, then it comes off via quick-detach swivels.

Spend the money on shell carriers and belt-style bandoliers. Much more useful for social shotgunnin.

[ahadams]

uh, yankytrash the sling is because sometimes my right leg simply decides to stop acknowledging signals from the rest of my body...not often but when it does I fall down. Other times, it doesn't completely ignore such signals but only partially complies, and when that happens I stumble, and sometimes I fall down then, too. it's called doing my best to maintain control of the weapon, y'know?