Dan Wesson 1911 vs Glock 19 vs Glock 23


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goon
November 3, 2005, 10:18 PM
Once again, I am planning to add another handgun to the collection. I have narrowed it down to a Dan Wesson 1911 from CDNN or a Glock 19 or 23 purchased locally.
I have long wanted a 1911 and have had two, neither of which worked right. I have a friend who worked for Wilson Combat so if I buy a 1911 we are going to go to work with a Brownells catalog and our imaginations and make it into exactly what I want. How would the Dan Wesson be for a starting point?
Next is the Glock 19. I already have two 9mm's and reloading dies and components for it. Although I have only fired two Glocks in my life I have found that they fit my hand quite well. They have a great reputation for reliability and the same friend who would help me with the 1911 has worked in a gun store for about three years. He has never had to send a Glock back for repairs.
The G23 would fill the same role as the 19 but it has just a little more thump. I spend some time in the woods and a little more power is comforting. I know, a .357, .41 mag, or .44 mag would be better. I know. Still, I have been trying to simplify things and I have always been a better marksman with an automatic. They just work better for me. For the use I need it for, meaning "just in case" and definitely NOT hunting, I think the .40 with the right ammo would do OK.
Any help that anyone can give me with this decision would be appreciated. Thanks.

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crucible
November 3, 2005, 10:25 PM
You may want to check availability of those DW's at CDNN before you get yourself in a buying tizzy:)

Dan Wesson's, before CZ bought them anyway, were the best relatively unknown secret of 1911'dom in the last several years. Quality firearms, no doubt (I have two of them.) Now, they're just $200+ more expensively relatively unknown than they were before.

C-

goon
November 4, 2005, 09:17 AM
I will check availability first. Right now I am planning this as a tax return gun. Even if I have to pay all out for one, if I decide that I want one I will do that.
Just trying to get some different points of view on this. Thanks.

Flashpoint
November 4, 2005, 10:59 AM
Those CDNN Dan Wessons are gone, sorry dude.

Glocks and 1911s are to almost totally different kinds of guns. Me being a new 1911 club member and owner of one of those CDNN DWs I would say that if you don't have a 1911 you should really look about adding one to your collection. So far I've been real impressed with my DW and from what I've read about them over at the 1911 forum, they are just as good if not better than some of the big names like Kimber ect..

If you look around you might be able to find one at a gun shop that is pre-CZ ownership. After CZ bought DW they prices went up a couple c-notes :( .

Good luck.

Flashpoint
November 4, 2005, 11:02 AM
I just re-read your post.

What kind of 1911s did you have in the past and what were the problems?

For totting around in the woods as a just-in-case gun I think the G23 would just be jim dandy.

goon
November 4, 2005, 11:10 AM
I had a Kimber and a Springfield. Both suffered from relatively minor problems but still...
The Kimber had ejection problems and the Springfield shot something like 2 feet low and about a foot to the side at 25 yards. Small things but they showed me that no one was paying attention to them at the factory.
When I buy a gun I don't want to spend more time and money trying to fix problems that SHOULDN'T BE THERE ON A BRAND NEW GUN !!!
(Deep breath...)
Because of that I have been hesitant to try another 1911.
Even with something costing a couple hundred more dollars, I would be willing to try it. CZ owns them and I have dealt with CZ's before. No problems with the ones I have owned and very few I have even heard of. From my experience working in a gun shop I think they have good customer service so I wouldn't hesitate to deal with them.
The Glocks also have potential though...
This is going to be a tough one regardless.

TexasRifleman
November 4, 2005, 11:34 AM
My Dan Wesson Razorback is the ONLY 1911 (Out of more than 20) that ran perfectly for me out of the box with no need for any massaging at all.

gunfan
November 4, 2005, 12:15 PM
My Dan Wesson Razorback is the ONLY 1911 (Out of more than 20) that ran perfectly for me out of the box with no need for any massaging at all.

I am in the same boat! My DW Razorback is the finest Series 70-type 1911-pattern pistol that I have ever owned, bar none!

Go for it!

Scott

Frandy
November 4, 2005, 01:52 PM
Yup the CDNN Dan Wessons are gone. No surprise. I was really lucky to get a used Patriot at my local shop for $525. It's worth a lot more than that to me.

As ulflyer said after he shot it, "Man this is a tack driver!" No hyperbole there!

It also runs flawless with either 230 gr. FMJ or my usual lancer 185 gr. JHP.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=27043&d=1122606076

Beren
November 4, 2005, 07:33 PM
I brought home a new Glock 19 last weekend, and finally took her to the range this afternoon. Very easy shooting (but then it is a 9mm), and I'm actually more accurate with it than I am my Glock 17. Of course I also already have a 1911 in the collection, too.

If you don't already own a Glock, a 19 is a nice choice. You already have reloading gear for 9mm, and a G19 is a great size for either time at the range or for CCW. I may end up trading off my G17.

gandog56
December 19, 2006, 12:13 AM
You can't part me from my DW Razorback. It shoots the absolutely tightest groups I ever got from a semi-auto. I have one revolver that shoots just a hair tighter, but the Razorback resides on my bedstand.:D

10-Ring
December 19, 2006, 12:28 AM
I have one of these

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r208/10-Ring/P1020935.jpg

And then got one of these

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r208/10-Ring/P1010880.jpg

The DW did have some growing pains but I think we're fine now....she's a great shooter :cool:

gandog56
December 19, 2006, 01:02 AM
Did I mention that I hate plastic in a gun, too?

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