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TRIDENT
April 1, 2003, 11:12 AM
Looking to buy my first 9mm pistol. It will be my one and only 9mm. Hopefully, I will want to keep it permanently. My carry gun is a j-frame snubbie , so no big deal there (but if it could serve as a back-up carry, that would be cool). What nine would you pick, if you could have only one. Budget around $500. Abit more or less ok. Springfield XD? Glock? BHP? Sig 226? Kahr? CZ? I live near saltwater and might bring it on the boat sometimes. Help me pick one keeper nine! Thanks.

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10-Ring
April 1, 2003, 11:14 AM
I like the XD 9. Didn't think much of it until I shot it. I was impressed w/ accuracy & reliability! Oh, & the value ;)

JPoe
April 1, 2003, 11:30 AM
I second the XD-9. I have the standard 4" Service Model in Bi-Tone finish (stainless slide) and LOVE it. Fits my hand so well - and is a pleasure to shoot. Very well-made. The new 3" sub-compact is nice too and reportedly shoots very well - practically as accurate as the 4".

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Handy
April 1, 2003, 11:45 AM
If you want a good bet for something to keep, consider a gun that isn't just flavor of the week. I prefer steel guns, like the BHP, but it's hard to knock the Sig Classics for anything. Sig people are DIE HARD. Both of those guns have alot of history and alot of satisfied users.

In terms of corrosion, no gun is corrosion proof. Salt will attack stainless even and no gunspring has more than a light resistance to rust. Obviously, some guns will handle salt spray better, but I would treat all of them like the gun is made of cast iron.

If you're looking for value, here's a link to a 9 round Sig 220 in 9mm for less than $500:

http://www.southernohiogun.com/new_hand.html

firestar
April 1, 2003, 11:49 AM
I like the Kahr. It comes in all SS or with a plastic frame. Either way it is a nice gun and just the right size for CC.

venom600
April 1, 2003, 12:02 PM
How about a P99? My particular P99 is chambered in .40 (and .357 sig, thanks to Ken Lunde and Bar Sto), but I absolutely love it and I know a lot of 9mm P99 owners who are just as pleased as I am.

I have heard a lot of good things about the XD-9, though. I'm considering getting one myself.

MacPelto
April 1, 2003, 12:08 PM
For use on a boat, Glock. Otherwise, Hi-Power (Browning, not a clone.)

Edited to add: I see that they've moved this to autoloaders, but I don't see why you couldn't get one of the .357/9mm Ruger Blackhawks.

ACP230
April 1, 2003, 12:08 PM
I've got three 9mms.

My first was a Browning HP made in Argentina. It would be the last one I'd get rid of.

My vote goes to the BHP.

GrandmasterB
April 1, 2003, 12:16 PM
Another vote for the Hi Power. It is easy to carry and conceal IWB because the slide is very slim compared to Glocks, Sigs, HK's, etc.

D_Burchfield
April 1, 2003, 12:19 PM
Mu vote is for the BHP P35 or a quality clone of same. My only 9mm is a FEG PJK-9HP. It is dependable, accurate and is a proven design.

Regards,

Doug

Johnny Guest
April 1, 2003, 12:41 PM
My preferences:

Browning HP is king of them all in my opinion.

Any quality clone, preferably the FM - - -

* *choke * *gasp * * Glock, either 19 or 17 As MacPelto mentions, this would be a good choice for salt water use. Hard to get 'em to rust, and if they do, so what? They still work, and you're just trading one kind of ug - -, uh, unattractive for another. ;)

For a DA gun, the CZ75.

The SiG is nice, but doesn't fit my hand well and the barrel axis seems to set too high.

All the above are high quality and will meet a need for a heavy duty 9mm pistol.

Most of the really small pieces are sort of specialized.

Best,
Johnny

laynlow
April 1, 2003, 12:50 PM
I would not trade my Glock 34 for any other nine. I'm sure I will buy others, but the 34 is my favorite.

I shot ~1500 rounds this weekend in a two day shooting school, and did not have a single malfunction. I was even hitting a steel target every shot at 50 yards. I had not previously had a chance to shoot at that distance, and it was a blast. I simply love this gun.

DDGator
April 1, 2003, 12:52 PM
Not a great choice for concealed carry, but I will NEVER sell my CZ-75 -- it works too well and shoots too well.

I hadnt shot the CZ for several range trips. This last time I decided to put a few rounds through it and fell in love again -- not much is smoother or more comfortable or more accurate than my CZ-75.

Croyance
April 1, 2003, 01:42 PM
If there can be only one 9 mm in your collection, then I'd pick a Browning HiPower. It fits most hands. It is slim enough to be carried IWB. It handles recoil very well. In other words, it is good for many purposes.
The other nine's mentioned are good as well, but if I can choose only one, then function, versitility, style, and history give it to the HiPower.

aerod1
April 1, 2003, 02:05 PM
You didn't mention Ruger so I will.

Jim Hall

samualt
April 1, 2003, 02:12 PM
Glock-17. Find you a couple of preban 20 shot mags and you'll be in heaven!
It's light, simple, accurate, easy to use and clean.

Ala Dan
April 1, 2003, 02:22 PM
Greeting's TRIDENT & other member's-

Most everyone on this forum will tell you that I'm a die-
hard SIG-Sauer "Classic" P-series fan! And guess what?
They are correct.:uhoh: With that said, our choices are
narrowed to just two competitor's: the P226 and the P228.
Its probably six of one; and a half-dozen of the other?

The P226 is a full size combat auto, available in 9m/m
Parabellum; while the P228 (M11 military designation)
is a compact version, only available in 9m/m.

Personally, I like both and have owned both at the same
time. However, I recently sold the P226 in favor of the
P228; as it suited my needs in the long run. Both are
rock-solid reliable, have outstanding accuracy, and
are built with craftsmanship in mind. Either would be
considered a real winner!

Living near a salt water environment, I think I would
have the slide of either hard chromed; as most
folk's agree that a SIG'S finish is its downside! At any
rate, I love my fully stock West German made and
assembled SIG-Sauer P228; a product produced in
1990*.

*FootNote- the P228 wasn't even introduced until
1989; and I may have one of the first ones brought
to the U.S. of A.


Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

Destructo6
April 1, 2003, 02:42 PM
Definately the SIG P226. If I could only have one pistol of any kind, this would be it.

Skunkabilly
April 1, 2003, 03:07 PM
Depends, how big are you?

benewton
April 1, 2003, 03:09 PM
I'd go with the SIG, in whatever flavor, but, since you can normally get the .40 version, why bother with the 9mm?

cslinger
April 1, 2003, 03:15 PM
Used SIG 228. Get one with a beat up finish, police trade in or what not. Save a couple of hundred bucks up and have it hard chromed or NP3d or whatever the uber finish of the month is.

You can't go wrong with a SIG, 226, 228 are your best choices. The 229 doesn't balance as well as the 228 in 9mm.

I would think you could find a beat up 228 in the $450 neighborhood.

If this is really going to be an abuse boat gun, get a RUGER P95. Inexpensive, reliable to a fault, stainless on polymer, cheap full capacity magazines. You could have the gun NIB for say $360 and pick up a couple of full capacity mags for say $70 and still have room for a box or two of Hydrashoks left over.

Chris

TRIDENT
April 1, 2003, 03:38 PM
More Info:
This nine is not going to be strictly a boat gun beater. I take care of my weapons. I live on an island, and breathe humid salty air every day, so do my guns. On the boat, I would keep it stashed in a case, in a waterproof bag most of the time. I am 6'2 and 225 and 31 years old. I have most of my handgun experience with my mil-spec Springfield 1911 and Ruger Mark III. Both have been excellent for me. Want another accurate, reliable workhorse... More bang than the .22 and less $$$ than the .45 to shoot. May carry it sometimes while leaving the .38 Smith with my wife... Thanks for all the great info and opinions. I will be buying in about four weeks. Keep em coming....

SoDFW Jason
April 1, 2003, 03:42 PM
Ditto the XD. Great pistols.

Pilot
April 1, 2003, 04:19 PM
A Browning Hi Power with the factory Silver Chrome finish sounds perfect. I noticed they are now mkaing them with the fixed sights instead of the Millet adjustables now. My local shop has them for $599.

The CZ-75B or PCR in the polycoat finish would be my next choice.

Johnny Guest
April 1, 2003, 04:19 PM
- - -I completely left out the Ruger 9mms. Sorry, because this series is indeed a practical and heavy-duty sidearm. Almost indestructible, in fact, especially in stainless. I don't personally care too much for 'em, simply because they are so very thick and heavy for a modestly-powered piece, and I've never been able to warm up to the type. That fact certainly shouldn't take them out of the running for many people, and especially for certain uses, though.

I've zero experience with the XD. I understand it can be had for a lot less money then the Glocks. Is this true?

Best,
Johnny

cslinger
April 1, 2003, 04:20 PM
This nine is not going to be strictly a boat gun beater.

Ok, I stand by my RUGER P95 choice then.

Ooops I misread the quote.

I go back to my SIG choice.

Chris:D

556A2
April 1, 2003, 04:50 PM
For the steel world: BHP or CZ-75/85

For the "dark" side: Glock 17/19 or Walther P99

Poohgyrr
April 1, 2003, 05:38 PM
This is kinda easy.
1. Hi Power, especially if youhave access to the standard capacity and other mags. My first pick.

2. Glocks, whichever one suits your fancy. Very good pistols.

3. S&W 3900 series, or 5900 series Gen 3's. Also very good.

A LOT of wives are real happy with the grips and action of both Hi Powers & the Smith 3900 series. Either of these should work well for both of you.

9mmepiphany
April 1, 2003, 05:40 PM
it hard to believe that you would limit yourself to $500 for a "one and only" 9mm handgun.

the one 9mm, i have serveral, i would never trade or sell is my hk p-7. you could likely find a refurb for less than $700. it is one of the finest handguns available.

given the limits of your request and usage, i'd have to throw-in with the XP...i can easily see this gun eventually replacing the glock as the pre-eminant poly framed handgun

emann
April 1, 2003, 06:27 PM
Sig P239. :p

Jason Demond
April 1, 2003, 06:33 PM
Glock.:)

mparris71
April 1, 2003, 06:33 PM
P99

Erik Jensen
April 1, 2003, 06:41 PM
<--------------------------------------------if it's comfortable.. or a BHP.

modifiedbrowning
April 1, 2003, 06:42 PM
Walther P99, of course. You won't be sorry.

DonGlock26
April 1, 2003, 07:26 PM
If you want a 9mm to use around saltwater for $500, then I suggest you shop around for a used G-17/G-19. Get a hi-cap mag and you have 17+1 rounds to repel boarders with. Glocks would give you a lot less corrosion problems,also.

cratz2
April 1, 2003, 09:48 PM
If I could only keep one of my nines, it would be my Taurus PT99AF. Not sure what they're going for these days but I effectively paid about $289 for the gun, 2 10 rounds mags and at least 3 15 rounds mags, I forget exactly... maybe a couple more.

Usually when I recommend a full size 9 for a new or newer shooter I suggest either the Taurus or, more often recently, a CZ or EAA. The CZ75B SA would be my first choice in this category. The Browning Hi Powers are nice but at twice the cost of an EAA, I can't justify it for a range gun.

For a small carry gun, the Kahrs seem pretty tough to beat.

Any of the various SIGs and Glocks are perfectly good guns in 9mm they just wouldn't be the one I would want if I could only have one.

Now, without a budget, the one I'd want if I could only have one would be a P7M8.

45R
April 1, 2003, 10:00 PM
I'd go Sig 226 or XD9 for the price and application.

Admiral Thrawn
April 2, 2003, 01:04 AM
Glock 17.

17+1 round capacity, comes with two mags, very durable (especially in a salty air environment), light, reliable, simple in operation and very easy to field/detail strip and clean.

sm
April 2, 2003, 01:08 AM
BHP

Ian11
April 2, 2003, 02:47 AM
SIG Sauer P226

If this was the last 9mm pistol I would ever own.

Trebor
April 2, 2003, 03:09 AM
CZ 75B.

The Glock or XD are tempting choices because of their saltwater spray resistance, but I think the CZ is the best shooting gun of your options.

tlhelmer
April 2, 2003, 07:25 AM
Glock 19:D

jptsr1
April 2, 2003, 08:05 AM
Glock 26

J.

FPrice
April 2, 2003, 08:13 AM
Glock 19. I have had four, still have two. Walther P99 and BHP are both good choices also (as are most of the rest mentioned so far). But considering the stipulations you made, I think the Glock is the best choice.

Berg01
April 2, 2003, 09:03 AM
My first choice would be the Sig P220 9mm available as German Police surplus (already mentioned in the thread). After that, the CZ 75 BD or the CZ 75 PCR Compact Version, or even the S&W 908 or 910 (matt or stainless versions).

RandyC
April 2, 2003, 04:55 PM
XD, Sig, or Glock. Shoot all three, then make your choice.

Sidetracker
April 2, 2003, 05:13 PM
Check each gun to see what fits your hand the best. That includes shooting them to see if you can reach all the controls. That said, I chose the XDs, one XD-9 and one XD-40. Great guns.

arizona
April 2, 2003, 05:24 PM
I recommend the SIG. More money but worth the extra.
Solid and very dependable out of the box. Also, very accurate.:D

Silent Bob
April 2, 2003, 05:27 PM
Glock 19.

blades67
April 2, 2003, 10:56 PM
Get the one that fits you hand the best, and wrap your hand around a SIG Sauer P225 before you make up your mind.







Get a SIG!:evil:

rock jock
April 2, 2003, 11:43 PM
p99

NEtracker
April 3, 2003, 02:38 PM
SIG P226 works for big hands & is very "shootable",

But what I have & say thumbs up to is the Walther P99 (comes with diff. sized backstraps) if you want a polymer frame,
or the BHP with your choice of finish, maybe a Mark III (both in 9mm).:cool:

Akurat
April 3, 2003, 03:43 PM
Beretta 92FS!

Safety First
April 3, 2003, 08:55 PM
No one has suggested the Sig P-239 ? Maybe everyone knew I would and saved that post for me.. You might even be ready to give your snubbie a rest and carry the p-239 full time...It makes one heck of a great ccw..Check it out as the Sig web site before you buy anything. I bought mine end of last year,and I have carried it for many hours at a time and no problems,and the gun is more accurate than I am. I paid $529.00 and that was a pretty good deal, best of all it's very reliable...well that's my 2 cents worth

Darrin
April 3, 2003, 09:21 PM
Another vote for the P99 here.

Missouri Mule
April 3, 2003, 09:26 PM
The CZ compact is tough to beat.

Sven
April 3, 2003, 09:45 PM
Glock 17.

If I had to choose only one nine, this would be it... but why would I limit myself like that? ;)

Schuey2002
April 3, 2003, 09:48 PM
I'll deviate only slightly from what Sven said and take a..

Glock 19. ;)

PCRCCW
April 4, 2003, 12:14 AM
If I could only have 1? Hmmmmmmmhttp://www.angelfire.com/amiga/pcrcz/SAIDPAWALL.jpg
Shoot well :D

TheMariner
April 4, 2003, 09:06 PM
P99

Tag
April 4, 2003, 09:54 PM
Another G17 Vote :D

If I could only have one gun with me to the ends of the earth, that would be it.

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