[Texas Bob]

:fire: Yesterday at the range, "shooting in" a new PM9 I heard a "pop" not a bang. Fired case had not extracted, so I hand cycled the action before I had removed the mag( I know, I know) the next round would not seat, luckily. Fired case looked like it was completely clean on the inside, no powder residue what so ever. Field stripping the pistol I looked in the chamber to see what looked like the base of a "poorly cast" bullet. Using a wooded dowel I punched the 115gr. HP out the rear with very little effort. The powder charge was "caked" in a big wafer like attachment to the rear of the bullet. How or what ever contaminated that round I'll never know. Ammo was Fiocchi 115gr. JHP. I buy this by the case every so often and in several years of shooting this and the FMJ round I've never encountered anything of this type. No my storage proceedures have not changed or been interupted, if that is the next question. This was the only round out of that box that did that, but it sure reenforced the idea of a "second" gun. I saw factory .22 misfire in my youth(-40years) but this was a new one on me. Any one else seen a misfire with factory ammo recently?

[f4t9r]

very rare
we know you can get a bad round if you shoot long enough
even with new ammo.

[HighVelocity]

Do you still have the original box with the lot number on it? Maybe you could call or write somebody about it.
I've had good luck with Fiocchi and it's my preferred practice ammo in a couple different calibers.

[wrangler5]

Now that you mention it, I've had more than a couple of 22 rimfire misfires over the past year or so. Solid firing pin mark on the rim but no bang. I attributed it to cheap ammo (whatever's on sale at the gun shows, but it has been Winchester or Remington brand) and it was only an inconvenience, not life threatening.

I don't recall a misfire with commercial centerfire ammo, but I haven't shot a lot of it since I started reloading about 25 years ago. I have had my reloads fail to fire (more properly, fail to fire very far) when I've forgotten to put powder in them, but thankfully that has been rare.

I only put commercial loads in my carry guns, although I could make my reloading process sedate enough (even on the progressive loader) that I could check each primer for seating depth and each case for a powder load and so have supreme confidence that the ammo I make will go off when expected. I'm actually considering doing that - duplicating the velocity of commercial Speer Gold Dots in several calibers, and loading Gold Dot bullets in nickel cases (to distinguish them as carry rounds) for my own carry purposes. It would let me practice with the rounds I might have to shoot in extremis at a cost way below the usual store price for a box of 20.

[wally]

Technically this was a squib, not a misfire as the primer went off.

Misfires are the best ammo failure to have as tap-rack-bang is the solution. Squibs are the worst as tools are required to fix it unless you are really unlucky and the primer pushes the bullet far enough up the bore to let the next round chamber, then major disaster if you've failed to heed the warning of a round with little or no recoil that fails to extract with the bullet still attached!

Ocassional duds with cheap .22LR is a fact of life. Many will go off with a second pass if the firing pin hits a different spot on the rim, others are true duds.

--wally.

[wrangler5]

Ocassional duds with cheap .22LR is a fact of life. Many will go off with a second pass if the firing pin hits a different spot on the rim, others are true duds.

You're right. Almost all of the FTFs did go off when I rotated them in the chamber.

[dbracin]

I had a very similar experience this week with my PM-9.
I too had a box of Fiocchi 115gr. JHP. On the second round
of the first mag, I got a pop and not a bang and a
FTE (the only one EVER after about 1,000 rounds).
The bullet was not lodged in the barrel though.
This will be my last box of Fiocchi. I'll check the box for lot
number and post it.


(edited to add pistol info)

[106rr]

I got a squib with Rem 180gr jhp 40 S&W in the value pack from Wally World. The 180 jhp stayed in the bbl. I racked the slide when the piece would not fire. I ejected the empty case and assumed a FTE. I was shooting on a crowded and noisy indoor range so the sound signature of the squib wasn't apparent. When I fired again the second 180 jhp joined the first inside the bore. I noticed very sharp recoil when all 360 gr went out the muzzle. The last case would not extract or eject. The bbl had expanded into the slide. I suffered no injury at all. The front sight disappeared! The magazine was still in place.
A phone call to Smyrna the next morning arranged the replacement of bbl, slide and sights at no cost. They were skeptical about a blow up with factory ammo asking for both the lot number and the flap off the box. I told them that the original case was still in place. The G 35 was returned in few weeks. I understand that Remington pays Glock for the rebuild.

[bpisler]

I had the same problem with the
115gr fiocchi jhp's earlier in
the year.I heard a very quiet
pop,the slide didn't even move.
I dropped the mag and locked the
slode back,the bullet had just
cleared the chamber.The powder
was a soft mass that felt kind
of oily.I pulled the rest of
bullets and about half was like
that.

[psyopspec]

Ammo was Fiocchi 115gr. JHP.

Exact same thing happend to me in the summer of 2004. I used to buy the stuff by the 1,000, but that one failure was a major PIA since it ended my range session for the day. One is one too many; I have since chosen another brand for plinking ammo.

[DHart]

Yikes... making note to self not to buy any Fiocchi ammo!

[The Drew]

I had a 165gr WWB .40 issue where there was no flash hole drilled in the brass for the primer. So when the primer detonated, the entire back end of the brass expanded, the primer started backing out, and froze the round in the chamber... I had to pound the whole round out... the bullet never moved, it did have a powder charge, but no flash hole... REALLY wierd...

[dbracin]

The box of Fiocch I had a bad round with is lot# 0627226001
Fiocch 9mm 115 JHP :(