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Finch
November 7th, 2005, 01:52 AM
I'm sure most of us has seen that video of that crazy guy in vegas beating up the PT cruiser, well it got me thinking, how many of us train as if we were seated in our vehicles? Any thoughts on this? Any ideas on good ways to train?

Also, I've seen ads for holster for your car, does anyb0ody have any good recommendations for one of these.

Dr.Who
November 7th, 2005, 02:09 AM
Our IDPA club has regular stages were we are either sitting in a chair or car seat and shooting through a car window. A big danger to watch for is crossing yourself with the muzzel as you bring the gun to bare...

As for a good holster, no suggestion. Some one said that there is one you can get that would attach to the steering column. This would require you to move the gun from your carry mode to the column while driving and back again. A holster that makes sense to me would be a cross draw on the left side of my body (right handed shooter). It would be easy to pull and defend out the drivers side window, but harder to handle on the right side. (Not IDPA Legal)

paternoster2012
November 7th, 2005, 02:12 AM
Id really like to pick one of these up, but they dont offer their roto holster for my defense pistol

would be a nice addition on the floor boards to the right of my right leg and within arms reach

much better than any alternative I can find

https://secure.fobusholster.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=263&osCsid=b11bfb285aacf8d8388f586fe6b0d559

nhhillbilly
November 7th, 2005, 06:22 AM
We train shooting from the vehicle about 3 or 4 times a year. Remember you 2000 pound vehicle is one hell of a projectile. If deadly force justified and your are attempting to protect yourself or loved ones run them over.

clt46910
November 7th, 2005, 07:54 AM
I have a private shooting range at my home. My normal routine was to shoot the ammo up in the gun I carried that day when I came home. I believe in a little serious concentrated practice each day over longer sessions once or twice a month or week. Part of that routine was pulling the car up to the range upon occasion and shooting out the windows. Make real sure you have good hearing protection if you are going to shoot out the passenger side from the drivers side because it is going to be really loud...:rolleyes:

I have also used a holster mounted under my steering column as well as a crossdraw holster. I like both but either conceal very well. While most people did not notice the gun under the steering column unless they was actually sitting in the car, it was noticed. I liked carrying crossdraw and it was handy in the car, it seemed harder to conceal and I tended to "flash' more often with open jackets and shirts. I have a console in both my car and van, so now I just slip my gun into that when in the car.

The steering column holster and console both require that I transfer my firearm upon entering and leaving the vehicle. Not really that big a hassle unless you are with someone you did not want too know you was carrying. Then I would just keep my firearm on my person.

DontBurnMyFlag
November 14th, 2005, 10:58 AM
vladimir vasilyev, one of the main teachers of the SYSTEMA, (russian martial art) and ex-SPETSNAZ, has a great DVD out there called "defense in close spaces". Its a close quarters combat training video. IT focuses on fighting from your desk, car, hallway etc. It has some good stuff about the car, very effective and easy. There isnt anything about pulling a gun on the attacker however.

Finch
November 25th, 2005, 05:47 PM
I've seen this holster in a magazine, but for the life of me I can't remember the name of it. What it does is it goes around the seat of your car so that the holster will ride between your legs. anyone seen this?

grabthatthing
December 2nd, 2005, 05:35 PM
We train shooting from the vehicle about 3 or 4 times a year. Remember you 2000 pound vehicle is one hell of a projectile. If deadly force justified and your are attempting to protect yourself or loved ones run them over.

that sounds great! shooting from the vehicle! - sumthing to look forward to..

lawson
December 2nd, 2005, 06:24 PM
I've seen this holster in a magazine, but for the life of me I can't remember the name of it. What it does is it goes around the seat of your car so that the holster will ride between your legs. anyone seen this?

it's made by DeSantis, it's called the Kingston Car Seat Holster.

http://www.desantisholster.com/n92.html

i'm thinking about getting one. i'm a big guy, so driving with my carry piece on me is often uncomfortable.

atlctyslkr
June 26th, 2006, 11:27 AM
Sounds like a great excuse to visit a junkyard (if you can get the owner to let you fire off a few rounds).

4play
June 26th, 2006, 12:59 PM
While I have not actually fired from my truck, I have sat in it with my gun in hand & thought about where & how I would hold it with someone approaching the car from various angles. Having my handgun at the ready, but not really up & ready is a drill that we all should do. I went from this position to a firing one a few times just to see what all was in they way. Like was mentioned, it would be awful easy to shoot your self shooting right handed out the drivers side & it supprised me how difficult it is to get a good angle to shoot on the right (right handed). You just about can't shoot a front seat passenger right handed in a small to medium sized car.

sacp81170a
June 26th, 2006, 02:38 PM
Our department actually tows a couple of junk cars to the range twice a year for tactical qualifications. We use 'em to set up traffic stop scenarios where the officer exits his vehicle and may get the word "Gun!' at any time during the approach and interview and to shoot from inside the vehicle.

The most efficient way to engage multiple attackers when the vehicle is stopped is to simply shoot *through* the windshield and windows. It's loud and it showers you with glass, but it works. Be sure to wear eye and hearing protection if you have an opportunity to try this out for yourself. Simulations sitting in chairs are nowhere close to the real thing and having to draw and fire against the clock while avoiding the windshield, steering wheel, and various and sundry other obstructions while sitting in a real vehicle.

GEM
June 26th, 2006, 03:32 PM
Insights and OPS have car training curricula.

Steve in PA
June 26th, 2006, 05:51 PM
I did this last year with my shooters (LEO's) and it was a big hit.

As for pointing the muzzle at yourself, while it is very wise not to do this, nothing is 100%. Some part of your body may get muzzled. The more important part is to make sure your finger is not on the trigger when moving the weapon.