[hksw]

HOLY MOSES IN A ROWBOAT.

I had heard Bill O'Reilly had made a significant change toward he 2nd but I was not aware just how far he went. I was watching him just now concerning the gun bad in CA (with a libral elite, of course). His change after Katrina apparently was major. He had stated that EVERY home should have a gun! WOW. I never would have guessed he would have gone all the way.:)

In the end, he let the banner the last word and he edged in at the end, "get a rifle." to her. HAHAHAHA.

[Nimitz]

just saw that myself...congrats.

now those poor bastards in san francisco...any more info on this "election" ?

Chad

[johnmcl]

I like the rowboat saying...

John

[Stauble]

i missed that part
anyone know where i can get a transcript of the interview?

[Shipwreck]

I don't always agree w/ him, but I listen to his radio show everyday (can't see the TV show, since we don't have fox news).

[Alex45ACP]

Yeah I saw that tonite, it was great. I usually find Bill O'Reilly really annoying but he kicked ass tonite.

The very last thing he said before the show ended: "Get a rifle". :D

[Lennyjoe]

Was in the process of reloading some 30-06 during that segment and laughed my ass off at the closing remark about getting a rifle.

That woman is definitely a sheeple.

[nfl1990]

Now if only we could use his alternitive of the death penalty I wouldn't mind gettin 'rid of it, (it involved a hard labor camp in AK, no TV, Computers, or sex with other inmates, (seriosly, he did mention the last one))

[cbsbyte]

I saw the trail end of the segment. Very interesting, I always thought O'Rielly was anti-gun, I quess he realized many of his viewers are not and thought it would be wise to play up to us for ratings. I have heard that his show is falling in the ratings, anyone know if this is true?

[BenW]

I generally don't tune O'Reilly in much anymore, but caught the replay after seeing this thread. That woman was an idiot. And she was President of the SF Board of Supervisors?

He got her good on a few points:

-- Her saying how she grew up in the Mayor's (her father's?) home surrounded by his security forces and guns. Bill replying that it was nice she had the protection that she wants taken away from others.

-- Calling her on the quality of SF schools regarding kids not knowing about the war in Iraq (talking about the military recruiter ban)

-- Calling her on her stupid statement that you don't need guns to protect yourself from armed looters, that arresting them will take care of the problem (he replied with something along the lines of, "yeah, after they put a bullet in your head, lotta good it does you."

[boofus]

-- Calling her on her stupid statement that you don't need guns to protect yourself from armed looters, that arresting them will take care of the problem (he replied with something along the lines of, "yeah, after they put a bullet in your head, lotta good it does you."



Yep you don't need a gun. You just need to wait 2 weeks for the National Guard to come in and another week for the phone company to fix the lines. Then your relatives can dial 911 and hopefully enough AWOL police officers have come back into town so they can file a report and look at your bloated waterlogged corpse in the morgue. Looks like you've been raped and then strangled during the month of anarchy. Case solved, off to the donut shop. :rolleyes:

[geekWithA.45]

O'Reilley wasn't anti-gun, he was pretty centrist, which is to say guns for hunting, and maybe PC guns for defense, but no one needs an AK-47.

What I'm hoping is that Katrina and other events help people return the centrist position to where it belongs, which is "Why NOT and ak-47?"

[Lennyjoe]

Bill said the Katrina aftermath pretty much changed his mind on the whole gun issue.

[1911Tuner]

O'Reilley wasn't anti-gun, he was pretty centrist, which is to say guns for hunting, and maybe PC guns for defense, but no one needs an AK-47.



I completely agree. Nobody NEEDS an AK-47...except maybe a member of a fire team(Actually, an M1 Garand will do just as well.)...but need doesn't have anything to do with it. The question is..."If we want one, why should we not be allowed to have it"? Who do the antis and their political minions
think they are to tell Americans what they need and don't need? I like to watch O'Reilly...but he really should stop pandering to both sides on this question. 2A doesn't say that we have the right to bear sporting goods.

Maybe somebody should point out to Bill that ALL rifles are "assault weapons" by design and intent. In 1863, it was the rifled musket. In 1873 it was the trapdoor Springfield. in 1918 it was the Mauser and the '03 Springfield.
They're all weapons that are used primarily to attack an antagonist at a distance beyond defensive range.

[AirForceShooter]

he went crazy didn't he?
All he could think of was San Francisco after an earthquake. He was almost begging her to get a gun.
I wonder if Bill ever got his as he claimed he was going to do after Katrina.
I was watching the show and all I could think was " you tell her Bill". He really did have her welfare in his mind.

AFS

[MAUSER88]

I have ZERO respect for Bill. He changes his tune for his benefit only. Screw him!!

[rick_reno]

This change in attitude is to pump up book sales.

[MudPuppy]

I dunno--it's pretty hard to understand how anyone could see what happened within minutes of the disaster in LA to not recognize how important individual gun ownership is.

As for need, I need my AK as much as I need my pants--think about that one. :)

[torpid]

As for need, I need my AK as much as I need my pants--think about that one. :)

Great.
Now I can't stop thinking about that one.

Thanks.

:p

[Bobo]

I dunno--it's pretty hard to understand how anyone could see what happened within minutes of the disaster in LA to not recognize how important individual gun ownership is.
Amen!!
My wife was against "guns in the home" -- then Katrina -- she's a smart woman that is willing to change when confronted with the facts -- we are now armed (her suggestion)!!!

[SomeKid]

Can anyone post a video snippet?

[TheEgg]

Didn't see the TV show, but yesterday he was very specific -- you can have a gun for self defense, BUT ONLY IN YOUR OWN HOME. :barf:

Futhermore, his absolute ignorance about gun laws is stunning.

He can stay off my side, thank you.

[petrel800]

O'Reilly has a .44 caliber mouth and a .22 caliber mind.

I have never seen a guy start more arguements being as ignorant as he is about a subject.

His idiocy was front and center last night in his segment with Ben Stein and the other economist about Oil Companies.

[TexasRifleman]

just saw that myself...congrats.

now those poor bastards in san francisco...any more info on this "election" ?

Chad

Poor bastards? They voted for this, it's voluntarily. Screw them, and that's as High Road a way as I can think to put it considering that this is 100% self inflicted. What else can you do?

[Mongo the Mutterer]

Poor bastards? They voted for this, it's voluntarily. Screw them, and that's as High Road a way as I can think to put it considering that this is 100% self inflicted. What else can you do?We can put some of our Punk ne'er do wells on a bus to SF... They deserve a "gun free" workplace...

Solves our problems and give the SF'rs their just desserts.

Wonder who will be the city crowned as the "murder capital" in a couple years. (oh, I forgot, SF is too expensive for the riff raff)...

[DonP]

O'Reilly can sway with the wind but seems to be finally learning that the government will not take care of you and yours in a pinch.

The interview with the Alioto woman was priceless. She actualy did say "I grew up with armed tactical officers in my home when my father was mayor and never felt I needed a gun to protect myself. I hate guns". She was so dumb she couldn't even see how elitist she was being, ala Rosie O'Donnell et. al. "If you are worried about your family, just hire armed bodyguards, right?"

I'll give O'Reilly a few brownie points on getting this one right and backing it up with logical arguments.

That woman would be the first one at the microphone after any SF disaster to blame Bush and the government for not protecting her and her property from armed and dangerous looters.

The bottom line, IMNSHO, is this will be overturned in the courts just like the last time they tried this.

[BenW]

I'll give O'Reilly a few brownie points on getting this one right and backing it up with logical arguments.

Dangit, I gave him brownie points on this one too, then decided, "what the heck?" and watched him yesterday to see if he was on a roll. He lost all his brownie points while arguing with Ben Stein and Wayne Rogers re: gas prices.

[dasmi]

My mom heard it. Now she finally agrees that they need some sort of gun in the house, just in case. She's been leaning that way, but O'Reilly tipped her over the edge I think. Now I get to take my parents shotgun shopping!

[Wingshooter]

Poor bastards? They voted for this, it's voluntarily. Screw them, and that's as High Road a way as I can think to put it considering that this is 100% self inflicted. What else can you do?


Actually it seems to be about 58% self inflicted. My heart goes out to the other 42%...

[hksw]

Didn't see the TV show, but yesterday he was very specific -- you can have a gun for self defense, BUT ONLY IN YOUR OWN HOME.

Futhermore, his absolute ignorance about gun laws is stunning.

He can stay off my side, thank you.

Ah yes. Let's push away everyone into the anti crowd who isn't a full blown gun absolutist.

[TheEgg]

Ah yes. Let's push away everyone into the anti crowd who isn't a full blown gun absolutist.

Straw man anyone?:neener:

I don't want O'Reilly on my side -- didn't mention anyone else, now did I?

[Travis McGee]

Yep you don't need a gun. You just need to wait 2 weeks for the National Guard to come in and another week for the phone company to fix the lines. Then your relatives can dial 911 and hopefully enough AWOL police officers have come back into town so they can file a report and look at your bloated waterlogged corpse in the morgue. Looks like you've been raped and then strangled during the month of anarchy. Case solved, off to the donut shop. :rolleyes:

PERFECT! BRAVO!

[Brat7748]

sent this to his email (orielly@foxnews.com)

The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed—where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once. " -- Justice Alex Kozinski, US 9th Circuit Court, 2003

Be "pithy"

[Quinch]

2A doesn't say that we have the right to bear sporting goods.

Good point!

[Nekron]

Yeah, I hear him too. :rolleyes: B.F.D.

He's singin' a different tune now but I still don't think he really gets it. If he's really serious about it, he should apologize for all those times he painted NRA as an extremist organization.

EVERY SINGLE TIME I've heard him mention NRA in the past, it was always followed with "who thinks every home should have a bazooka on the cofee table". :fire: What a crock!!

I wish just one person could get through on his radio show and ask him what he thinks about NRA now.

Yeah, he's workin' for our side...................for now.

[Lupinus]

I like O'Reily. Do I always see eye to eye with him? Not by a long shot but he is pretty good in my opinion at what he does and is one of my favorite news shows.

That said as for "need". Lets look at needs versus rights shall we?

John Kerry- Owns a boat that eats more gas on a trip then my car does all year, and I own a Camaro. Doesn't his wife own her own plane too or something? And something about a bunch of SUV's? Wasn't there something about him buying a boatload of SUV's?

How many loony leftys ride around in convoys of SUV's? And them puppies half the time are armored and supercharged, great for the enviroment.

How many say "oh you don't need gun's to protect yourself" and then introduce you to their armed personal guard that makes more a year then I do doing exactly what you think shouldn't be a right?

Last I checked only rich people can afford a Dodge Viper or a HUMMER. Ever notice a lot of our countries richist people are liberals? Wonder how many insanly fast cars George Soros has? How about some of the other rich lefty elitist? If you can afford a few million worth of cars you don't need that. How about signign a few checks to the less fortunate for your own private income distribution you so seem to want?

Having the right to own somthing has jack to do with need. No one needs a private boat, luxtury lot, car that can do 200+mph, HUMMER, and very few people are so high profile they need armed guards. And unless you live in an area prone to bad driving conditions or emergencies (snow, flood, etc) you don't really need an SUV either. But you know what? It isn't about need. It is about want of something I have the right to have. No one needs 50k worth of baseball cards either but you can. Its a hooby, a luxtury, a collectable, whatever. I need an AK47 like I need a hole in the head (no pun intended) I can defend myself in most situation's I am likly to run into with a hunting rifle or a handgun just as good as with an AK47. But you know what by god if they can have their toys I should be allowed to have mine. And by the way. How many of YOUR luxtury item toys are constitutionaly given rights?

[Alex45ACP]

Constitutionally given rights? Never heard of those.

[Lupinus]

protected better for you?

I was ranting feel free to replace given with protected if that works better for you lol

[grampster]

I was listening to Sean Hannity today and he played a 911 tape. Somebody was breaking into a house. There was a lady on the phone, her mother (60yrs old) and a child in the house. You could hear screaming in the back ground and the woman on the phone was begging for help. 911 was telling her to be calm and stay on the phone. They would send help (yeah, and the ambulance and hearse too) Suddenly in the background there is a gunshot.:eek: Gramma shot the goblin. A couple seconds later a 2nd shot :D (must have been for good measure). I arrived at my destination so I couldn't hear any more, but Hannity was to have Granny on to tell about what happened. Anybody familiar with this?

I read the paper tonight and watched the news. NOTHING.:fire: :fire:

Oops, never mind, I see there is another thread and it will be on at 9PM on Hannity and Combs. Still, nowhere else.

[ReadyontheRight]

The guy's not a conservative. He's a blowhard who seems as if he'd prefer an O'Reilly-ocracy to representative government.

[22-rimfire]

I didn't see the show that everyone is commenting about here now. But, I did listen to O'Reilly talk about guns following the Katrina hurricane and the responsible need for a gun. He is a middle of the road guy most of the time except for his views on prosecuting people who abuse or kill their children for any reason or the judges who let them walk. I personally like O'Reilly's show and can see why it is No. 1. He is pretty responsible overall and does say what he thinks. I agree with the majority of his views that I'm aware of.

[Geno]

Remember, he reads these on the air...go for it; send him an e-mail and comment about the NRA.

Doc2005

[Mongo the Mutterer]

How many loony leftys ride around in convoys of SUV's? And them puppies half the time are armored and supercharged, great for the enviroment.

How many say "oh you don't need gun's to protect yourself" and then introduce you to their armed personal guard that makes more a year then I do doing exactly what you think shouldn't be a right? Lupinis calm down, calm down. Don't you know that the elites know better that us? Are better than us? Care More? Are For the Children?

Keep watching. The one thing (other than 2A) that bothers them the most is that we can vote. The transnational socialists ... remember the "global test", want to rule the world with unelected bureaucrats.

Calm down and be a nice sheeple.... baaaaa

[Lupinus]

*grumbles puts on the sheep outfit left over from a few halloweens ago and starts looking for a salad....since the loony lefties dun banned meat*

I always loved that one, the people that let domesticated animals go....which then get eatin or eat everything in the area and completly screw up the enviroment lol

I also love the fact PETA's (the looney one not the eating tasty animals one) vice pres takes insulin.

[yayarx7]

Yep you don't need a gun. You just need to wait 2 weeks for the National Guard to come in and another week for the phone company to fix the lines. Then your relatives can dial 911 and hopefully enough AWOL police officers have come back into town so they can file a report and look at your bloated waterlogged corpse in the morgue. Looks like you've been raped and then strangled during the month of anarchy. Case solved, off to the donut shop. :rolleyes:

It was less than a week. We had the Superdome clear on day 6. But your point is very valid and very ture.

[Lupinus]

It was less than a week. We had the Superdome clear on day 6. But your point is very valid and very ture.
Takes less then that for mobs to form they were out the second the rain stopped. You notice the first thing to clear out in them videos from inside stores were the alcohol department? Saw a lota cans of food left. Lotsa cloths shoes alcohol chips cheetos etc in carriges....no cans of food.

[beaucoup ammo]

Visited your web site. Are ALL those beauties yours? Wowzers!

You would be the "go to guy" for a question regarding the price of a used item(s) I've been looking for:

In today's Classifieds, there's a SIG P220, .45, 2-tone night sights, wood grips and 5 factory mags for $675. Sez "like new." We'll see..any thoughts on the price?

Thanks

[Chuck Dye]

I caught some of BO’s radio shtick this last week (prolly 7-9 Nov, if you want to search his show archives) in which he described "common sense" gun ownership: licensing, mandatory training, in home only. :banghead: Not a 2A friendly kind of guy.

[mountainclmbr]

Because of Katrina and France problems, Bill said "Everybody should have a rifle".

Mountainclmbr would have said: "Everyone should have several concealable handguns, caliber starting with a 4. Everyone should also have a few rifles with high capacity magazines, with a caliber starting with at least a 3. They should also have at least 1,000 rounds for each serious gun, to not do so would be REDICULOUS!"

[NoBite]

I saw the trail end of the segment. Very interesting, I always thought O'Rielly was anti-gun, I quess he realized many of his viewers are not and thought it would be wise to play up to us for ratings. I have heard that his show is falling in the ratings, anyone know if this is true?


cbsbyte - I usually listen to O'Reilly on the radio M-F on the way home from work, have one of his books and generally find his show to be stimulating. We certainly don't agree always, but I do like his style and conviction. Until Katrina, however, I was at great odds with him regarding RKBA. I believe he really has had a soul-searching on this issue. IMO, this isn't a ratings thing. Could be wrong, but that's my take on it.

[grimjaw]

Bill O'Reilly, hrm.

I try to watch his show, but he keeps hosting it.

jmm

[beaucoup ammo]

Therein lies the rub for sure..I'll take Gobs Of Dobbs and a Daily Dose Of The Daily Show!

Take Care

[Nekron]

Remember, he reads these on the air...go for it; send him an e-mail and comment about the NRA.

Doc2005


Good idea, Doc! I'd probably stand a better chance of being heard that way.