(LA) Robber shot dead by victim, police say Disc jockey opened fire with own gun


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Drizzt
April 1, 2003, 06:17 PM
Robber shot dead by victim, police say

Disc jockey opened fire with own gun


Tuesday April 01, 2003


By Tara Young
Staff writer

A would-be robber who pulled a loaded gun on two disc jockeys leaving an Uptown bar was killed early Monday when one of them pulled a gun of his own and opened fire, police said.

The Orleans Parish coroner's officer identified the dead man as Lonnie Rice, 26, of New Orleans. An investigator who knew him said Rice had a long arrest record and at least one conviction for armed robbery.

The names of the two disc jockeys, ages 20 and 21, were withheld by police. Saying the shooting appeared to be in self-defense, the police have not booked the men with Rice's death. The case, however, will be turned over to the district attorney's office for review, police said.

The disc jockeys had just finished loading their sound equipment into a car and were preparing to leave Sam's bar at Erato and South Rampart streets about 1 a.m. when Rice walked up, police said. Brandishing a gun, Rice demanded money, the disc jockeys told police.

Fearing for his life, the 20-year-old took a gun from the car and shot Rice, police said.

Moments later, 6th District officer Lawrence Dupre happened to pass by the scene and spotted the 20-year-old standing on the corner with the gun, police said. As soon as he saw the police officer, the disc jockey dropped his weapon and reported the events that had led him to shoot Rice, who was lying on the ground, authorities said.

Rice was pronounced dead at the scene a short time later. Investigators found narcotics on Rice and a handgun near his body.

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1049181946164650.xml

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Greybeard
April 1, 2003, 06:23 PM
The old "He needed killin'" defense applicable here?

SoDFW Jason
April 1, 2003, 06:38 PM
Grey- sounds like a prime example to me

Pendragon
April 1, 2003, 06:52 PM
what are the odds they will get the kid on being 20 and posessing a useful means of defense?

I guess LA would be better than CA, but i think he will get charged with something like that...

Blackhawk
April 1, 2003, 07:27 PM
:neener: :neener:

Sven
April 1, 2003, 08:10 PM
Another point for the good guys. Doubt he had a CCW permit.

Waiting for the other shoe to drop... aka, criminal and civil liability charges, or 'dead guys mommy is deeply hurt that son was murdered in cold blood by that EVIL man for no reason what so ever... and wants compensation'

Things are much different in TN... "he needed killin" is pretty much acceptable defense, from what I've heard.

Preacherman
April 1, 2003, 08:17 PM
Don't think we'll see that problem here - in LA, it's legal to keep a gun in your car (loaded and ready, too!), thanks to a pro-gun Governor and Legislature. After a spate of carjackings in the '90's, they passed a law making the vehicle an extension of your home, with the right to use lethal force to prevent car-jackings. After a few car-jackers came to sudden and sticky ends, the practice declined drastically... :D

So, if the young man took a gun from the car, he was entirely legal in having it in the car, and they can't get him on that one. As for the perp... too bad, so sad...

Standing Wolf
April 1, 2003, 09:19 PM
After a few car-jackers came to sudden and sticky ends, the practice declined drastically.

Just a coincidence, I'm sure. Everybody knows poverty causes crime.

Bob Locke
April 1, 2003, 10:13 PM
(LA) Robber shot dead by victim, police say Disc jockey opened fire with own gun
WOW! A story in a newspaper, and they got the labels of the people involved in the incident correct!

How often is the perpetrator who ends up dead due to his misdeeds portrayed as "the victim"?

Good on the reporter, I say, and even better on the young man who defended himself and his friend.

Chris Rhines
April 1, 2003, 10:22 PM
I'm a sound tech. I DJ from time to time, mostly helping out friends who are in the buisness.

Just at a guess, the average DJ is wandering around with a carload of sound and lighting equipment, probably three or four grand-worth*, and easy to turn over on the street at that. Alot of DJ jobs tend to be cash transactions, so he might have a fair bit of cash on him as well.

On top of that, many DJ jobs, even the really high-dollar ones, are not in the nicest of neighborhoods.

On top of that, most DJ jobs are at places where the booze is flowing, the reefer is burning, and the coke is - well, you get the idea.

Add it all up, and DJing can be a fairly twitchy job. I'm always surprised at how few people in that buisness carry.

Sounds like this one ended well, though.

- Chris

* - At a minimum. Some mobile systems I've seen run upwards of ten grand just for CD players, mixers, amps, and cabinets.

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