[ajax]

When I die my first question to god will be " why all the plastic guns" they have absolutly no character what so ever. Give me something with a deep bluing or SS with real wood. Plastic SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its CRAAAAAAAAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!:evil:

[jsalcedo]

Glocks are reycled from long dead organisms.

Ashes to ashes... dust to dust.. petroleum to polymer..

It's all part of gods plan.

[Sindawe]

When I die my first question to god will be " why all the plastic guns" To which the Gods will reply..

"Hey, we were BORED and needed a good laugh." :evil:

To each their own, but I *LIKE* my plastic guns. Plenty of character in my Glock, it HATES being limp-wristed when fired and will make its displeasure known to the shooter.

[bulbboy]

I think people that make threads about things they hate suck

[MadMercS55]

One thing I've always liked about Glocks was their lack of personality. They are simply a tool that works very well. I would feel a little sad loosing a nicely customized 1911 or similar to the crime lab if I ever had to use it. Loosing my Glock 17 on the other hand, well, I'd be upset over the loss of a $500 product, but not much more.

[Solo]

Is it that time of year again?

[ajax]

Bulbboy I'm willing to bet you have a closet full of plastic 9mm dont you.:barf:

[Kim]

Someone explain to me what you mean by limp-wristed and what happens????????:)

[one45auto]

Be careful ajax, because I once said the very same thing. I disliked Glocks with a passion and you couldn't get me to look twice at one. No way was I ever going to buy one of those fugly pieces of tupperware.....and so on and so forth. I badmouthed them all the time.


However I now own two and am considering adding a third to my collection in the near future. I love them, and wouldn't trade my Glock 19 for anything. :)

[jsalcedo]

I love traditional guns.

However my sweat is acidic and very bad on gun finishes.

I had to move to a polymer and phosphate finish carry gun because I was ruining my blued steel guns.

[ajax]

45 I considered a .357 sig once. Instead I bought a .45 and havn't looked back since. Problem for me now is every gun shop is the same anymore. Plastic as far as the eye can see. Cookie cutter guns. Whoopde do! I'm not knocking function I'm knocking character or lack there of.

[Dr.Rob]

I thought we agreed to no more "this orthat sucks' threads?

[torpid]

When I die my first question to god will be " why all the plastic guns" they have absolutly no character what so ever.

And then He'll roll His eyes as He rests His hand on the grip of His Glock...

;)

[ajax]

Dr Rob I personally agreed to no such thing. I'm just venting about lack of real selection at the local gunshops.

[Biker]

I agree. A plastic gun *would* suck. I can't imagine a plastic barrel's rifling holding out for long. Thank God Gaston Glock saw fit to remedy these problems before they occured.:evil:
Biker

[Matthew748]

To each his own. Personally I like all guns of quality whether they be traditional all steel, or polymer framed. Another nice thing about handguns that incorporate polymer is that they are lighter for concealed carry.

[bulbboy]

Ajax -
I do have two Glocks and am proud to own them. My Glock 23 is by my bed and I CCW my G27 1/3 of the time. But since I grew up in the Miami Vice age - nothing is prettier than steel! I carry a PPK/S and a Kahr MK9 (all steel) the other 2/3. I love my Browning BDA .380 (nickel of course) and looking forward to my next gun (thinking about a Para Ordnance Warthawg or Hawg 9 ) For pure functionality and combat its hard to beat a glock, but I do like to customize my guns (grips etc) so I just customize the Glocks holsters. Just because you don't like something doesnt mean you have to hate it. 1911's are pretty but not my thing - the Warthawgs are the only ones so far that have interested me - but that doesn't mean I hate 1911s - just don't care for them myself that much. I hope your life gets better and you are able to focus on much more positive things.
Have a good day!:)

[lee n. field]

Is it that time of year again?

No. It's that time of the month again.:rolleyes:

[sp40cal]

Next to god bed stand is a glock 32 in 357sig. On the other side an xdc 40cal.


sp40cal:evil:

[1 old 0311]

Ugly as hell. Hard to love, but they work.

Kevin

[355sigfan]

I like plastic guns as working guns. I also like custom 1911's. I like the custom 1911's because there is no better type for winning gun fights. I like Glocks because short of a 1911 they are one of the easiest guns to shoot well under stress and their idiot proof. They run in the mudd snow sand you name it. Like Tommy Lee Jones said lose that nickle plated sissy pistol and get yourself a Glock.
Pat

[ajax]

Im sorry to inform you guys but GOD owns a S&W 686 in stainless steel that sits next to the bed and he's packin a 1911 Goverment. For the record I'm not complaining about how they function. I'm aggravated becuase the selection of plastic guns is starting to remove the selection of firearms I buy from the local gun shops. The way I see it is if I want a plastic gun I'll buy a water pistol.:D

[Jenrick]

In response to:

I like the custom 1911's because there is no better type for winning gun fights.

To qoute Paul Howe (Combat Shooting and Tactics Founder): "A shooting is one-way event, all the shooting is done by me. The gunfight is where your opponent has the opportunity to fight back. I prefer the shooting to the gun fight as getting shot at leads to getting shot and this hurts."

So personally I'll use whatever is handy to ensure that I'm not in a gun fight.

It's funny to me that people complain about "plastic guns", yet a decent segemet of them purchase AR's. The rifle design which had the exact same complaints leveled against it 30 years ago. In 30 years I'm sure I'll be hearing someone talk about "the good old days when you could get a real gun like a Glock, rather then these new fangled organicly grown pistols," or something along those lines.

It's a tool. Form follows function. Firearms can be art, in which case the asthetic is independant or function. However I'm not going to trust my life to a work of art. I will appreciate and collect them however.

-Jenrick

[Bob79]

Plastic serves a purpose. I have a Glock 23 and some Kel-Tecs, and none are really that "pretty" to look at. But if you look at them and appreciate them for the useful tools they are, they are kinda nice.

But yes, my S&W 66 is much nicer to look at you're right and its stainless. But I would knock a plastic gun just because I prefer the looks of other guns. First and foremost, a gun must function and if the plastic gun functions well, then hey its a good gun.

[TexAg]

Maybe we need a sticky like there is in the autoloaders forum, "No more hate threads".

[ajax]

Hey tex if you would spend more time reading and less time writing you would see at no point have i said HATE i said they suck becuase they are eye sores. In that sticky the writer refers to using the word hate. :neener:

[PaulBk]

Maybe we need a sticky like there is in the autoloaders forum, "No more hate threads".

Or maybe just a "No Whining" sticky? :evil:

-PB

[Carl N. Brown]

My son has a couple of friends who are reserve deputies.
He hated the look of the Glock until he shot one. It fit
his hand well, unlike his Beretta 92F, and he hit the
target center mass without much effort. That session
changed his feeling: they were designed to be ergonomic
not to look good. Glocks are not works of art: they are
self defense tools or appliances.

(My son has a ParaOrdnace P14 and STILL wants his
GP100 and M1911 back from me.)

[bulbboy]

Maybe we need a sticky like there is in the autoloaders forum, "No more hate threads".

+ 1

[ajax]

Bulbboy you and Tex are hard headed. I never said Hate. lots of things suck but i dont hate them. My job sucks but i dont hate it.

[TexAg]

Hey tex if you would spend more time reading and less time writing you would see at no point have i said HATE i said they suck becuase they are eye sores. In that sticky the writer refers to using the word hate. :neener:

The point remains the same. If you cannot undserstand that, I am sorry.

[torpid]

You know what I hate?

Puppies.



Yeah, I said it.









(Just kidding- I jus wuv dose cute widdle-biddy pups.)
.

[bulbboy]

That means I was "wrong" not hardheaded! But you are right you never said hate - that is your general "tone of voice". People have different opinions and you can't seem to understand that. No reason to start a thread about some of the most popular handguns sold unless you just want to stir up controversy. And there is no reason for that. As the great philosopher once said " Can't we all just get along?":)

[Mixlesplick]

I can't afford to spend money on "pretty" guns. I try to buy guns that work, and work well. If one is a pretty gun, good. If one of them is an ugly little plastic Kel-Tec, oh well. It has been my most reliable pistol yet. Piece out, man.:cool:

[EddieCoyle]

Which is better - 9mm or .45ACP?







I just wanted to get that in before this thread got locked.

[Colt]

Im sorry to inform you guys but GOD owns a S&W 686 in stainless steel that sits next to the bed and he's packin a 1911 Goverment.

God's packing a 1911 Goverment because He's the only One that can get it to work reliably.:neener:



This is an comeback someone in the Glock camp could have made. Me, I'm strictly a 1911 guy, so I would never make such a comment. All my 1911's work flawlessly. <ducking head, watching for lightening> :uhoh:

Seriously, to me, a Glock looks like the box a nice gun comes in.

[thesheetrockman]

I don't hate plastic guns and i don't think that they are inferior. I just don't like them and i don'e buy them for 3 main reasons


1) I am not going to pay the same price for a plastic gun as i would for steel/aluminum. Plastic costs a fraction of the cost to produce and you don't have to do much machining on it. THEY ARE JACKING UP THE PRICES ON PLASTIC

2) I like to have guns that are astheticly pleasing and I don't find plastic that appealing

3) I don't have that much money to buy guns let alone plastic guns that i think are over priced and not that purdy.

But i have my eye on that used keltec p3at at the local shop for $185. It would make a perfect carry gun.

greg

[raghorn]

I think it's time for somebody to call the "WAAAAH-mbulance." :scrutiny:

[Rexrider]

You know.....

When it is all said and done and it's the end of the day.....

The only thing that matters is what I like. Because it's all about me.

And there will always be a Glock in my collection (and a 1911).

[mwelch8404]

I love "real" guns also. That being said, I carry a G23 It's sure easier to hump plastic around...

I always loved the SIG 226. I walked out the door with the cash in hand to buy one and ended up with the G23. The 226 has the most comfortable feel and grip (to my hand, anyway.) The G23 only slightly less so. I can get 'em off quite accurately and rapidly... just LOTS less weight than the 226. Plus, dripping sweat makes no difference to a Glock.

But in the bush for fun I still carry my ooollldd colt reeeevolver or my browning buckmark...

[R.H. Lee]

The Gospel According to John Moses Browning:
(As told to his disciple, Preacherman)

1. In the beginning was the 1911, and the 1911 was the pistol, and it was good. And behold the Lord said, "Thou shalt not muck about with my disciple John's design, for it is good and it worketh. For John made the 1911, and lo all of his weapons, from the designs which I, the Lord, gave him upon the mountain.

2. "And shouldst thou muck about with it and hang all manner of foul implements upon it, and profane its internal parts, thou shalt surely have malfunctions, and in the midst of battle thou shalt surely come to harm."

3. And as the ages passed men in their ignorance and arrogance didst forget the word of the Lord and began to profane the 1911. The tribe of the gamesman did place recoil spring guides and extended slide releases upon the 1911 and their metalsmiths didst tighten the tolerances and alter parts to their liking, their clearness of mind being clouded by lust.

4. Their artisans did hang all manner of foul implements upon the 1911 and did so alter it that it became impractical to purchase. For lo, the artisans didst charge a great tax upon the purchasers of the 1911 so that the lowly field-worker could not afford one. And the profaning of the internal parts didst render it unworkable when the dust of the land fell upon it.

5. And lo, they didst install adjustable sights, which are an abomination unto the Lord. For they doth break and loose their zero when thou dost need true aim. And those who have done so will be slain in great numbers by their enemies in the great battle.

6. And it came to pass that the Lord didst see the abomination wrought by man and didst cause, as he had warned, fearful malfunction to come upon the abominations and upon the artisans who thought they could do no wrong.

7. Seeing the malfunctions and the confusion of men the lord of the underworld did see an opportunity to further ensnare man and didst bring forth pistols made of plastic, whose form was such that they looked and felt like a brick, yet the eyes of man being clouded, they were consumed by the plastic pistol and did buy vast quantities of them.

8. And being a deceitful spirit the lord of the underworld did make these plastic pistols unamenable to the artisans of earth and they were unable to muck much with the design, and lo these pistols did function.

9. And the evil one also brought forth pistols in which the trigger didst both cock and fire them and which require a "dingus" to make them appear safe.

10. But man, being stupid, did not understand these new pistols and did proceed to shoot them-selves with the plastic pistol, and with the trigger cocking pistols for lo their manual of arms required great intelligence which man had long since forsaken. Yet man continue to gloat over these new pistols blaming evil forces for the negligent discharges which they themselves had committed.

11. And when man had been totally ensnared with plastic pistol, the lord of the underworld didst cause a plague of the terrible Ka-BOOM to descend upon man and the plastic pistols delivered their retribution upon men. And there was a great wailing and gnashing of teeth in the land.

12. Then seeing that the eyes of man were slowly being opened and that man was truly sorrowful for his sinful misdeeds, the Lord did send his messengers in the form of artisans who did hear and obey the teachings of the prophet and who didst restore the profaned 1911s to their proper configuration, and lo, to the amazement of men they didst begin to work as the Prophet had intended.

13. And the men of the land didst drive out the charlatans and profaners from the land, and there was joy and peace in the land, except for the evil sprits which tried occasionally to prey on the men and women of the land, and who were sent to the place of eternal damnation by the followers of John.

Amen

[ajax]

You are the man. Im dying here. LMFAO. You get a 10 for character which is somthing plastics dont have.

[MachIVshooter]

For pure functionality and combat its hard to beat a glock

I'll respectfully disagree with this statement.

[jsalcedo]

The Gospel According to John Moses Browning:


That restored my faith.:D

[orangeninja]

I love these threads. But hey, you guys collect guns. Admirable hobby. But when you work with one, all day, all the time, 12 hours or more a day, you come home, don't wipe it down and tomorrow do the same thing, perhaps "plastic" guns will make more sense.

Wear a 40oz. gun all day long and off duty, throw a radio, handcuffs, baton, keys, flashlight, surgical gloves, keepers, backup gun, knife, wallet, more keys, vest, spare magazines, frisk gloves, the list keeps going. Wear all that and somewhere you'll be looking to trim the fat.

Hell, not everyone sees the charm in a Dually Diesel truck either, but it's not meant for 9 to 5er's, it's meant for serious work.

When your ready to stop collecting and start working, you'll be looking at plastic.;)

[bachman1961]

In reference to the word '-ate' (that I show as a bleep), and the fact that you never used it but were called out on it anyway; Is it any wonder that NEWS STORIES (reporters) get so discombobulated with facts getting in the way of a good story or debate ??

[mindpilot]

I do not own any plastic guns, al Blued or SS but I will someday hopefully have Glock in my collection. I want one as I have heard they are very reliable and can shoot and almost any condition. Are there really any TRUE plastic guns out there? I mean you couldn't get through a metal detector with a Glock. It would have to be Polymer or something I would think??

[Coronach]

As edifying as this has been...