.22LR revolver.. any "good and cheap"?


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twoblink
November 11, 2005, 01:38 AM
Was wondering if there was a "bargain" .22LR revolver that's "good and cheap" best bang for your buck type of deal..

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dasmi
November 11, 2005, 01:39 AM
See www.taurususa.com

355sigfan
November 11, 2005, 10:20 AM
The ruger single six is a good gun.
Pat

New_geezer
November 11, 2005, 04:06 PM
Cheap and good are real relative terms

For under $200, the only new gun worth mentioning I think is one of the Heriage Rough Rider SA's. Several options exist

In used, you can find an older Ruger Single Six for about the same price.

I recently was in my local gun shop and could compare them side by side.

The Heritage is not junk, but I would definitely decide in favor of a good used Single Six given the option.

JBP
November 11, 2005, 04:45 PM
Take a look at the used H&R's at the auction sites or gun shows, guns shops, etc. They didn't cost much to begin with, I paid $75 for my 922 close to 30 years ago, and it is just as accurate as my Ruger Single Six.

Clemson
November 11, 2005, 05:04 PM
Used Ruger, used Colt, used S&W. My first choice would be an S&W K22 or Model 17.

In my opinion, Taurus .22's are not worth a second glance.

If you want an inexpensive pistol in .22, the Ruger semi-autos are pretty nice for the price.

Clemson

wally
November 11, 2005, 05:16 PM
I disagree about the Taurus .22 revolvers. I've a 9-shot 2" Model 94 as an analog for my J-frame for cheap practice. Recently just picked up a 5" 9-shot that is styled like the "Raging Bull" line with a full underlug. Only set me back $275 (the 94 was ~ $35 less) and I think its great.

The S&W .22 revolvers are nice, great actually, but even used they are way too much for mundane .22lr gun.

Under $250 (new) autoloaders you have many good choices Ruger, Browning Buckmark, and Beretta Neos are three my wife and I shoot a lot.

--wally.

Vern Humphrey
November 11, 2005, 05:20 PM
My favorite .22 revolver is a Colt Officer's Model Target. The older Colts and Smiths are very fine guns, and you can often find them relatively cheap on www.gunbroker.com and similar sites.

Moonclip
November 11, 2005, 05:27 PM
I got a lemon Taurus 94 too unfortunately. The K frame S&W and even the J frame ones in 22lr are great but even used they can be hard to find especially at a cheap price. If you don't mind a single action, the Ruger single six can be found used occasionally cheaply if you are lucky. I recently passed a SS one with adj sights with 22lr and mag cylinders and two grips at $225.

Also you could look for a used Charter Arms pathfinder DA revolver, The two I have owned are not a S&W, but are serviceable. Another option is a High Standard Sentinel. CAn be found for less than $200 for many versions(not the pink anodized one though!) they have a rough trigger action, but are generally reliable enrty level 22lr revolvers. Some people report good reults with the Heritage rough rider 22 SA revolvers but I'd look for the Ruger first though the Heirtage revolvers do have a manual safety!

Clemson
November 11, 2005, 05:37 PM
Sorry, Wally, but my personal experience with two different Model 94 Taurus revolvers has been pretty awful. One gun locked up the very first time it was taken to the range (less than one cylinder full of ammo), and the other had a trigger that would make a strong man weep. There may be good ones out there, but caveat emptor.

Clemson

popeye
November 11, 2005, 08:35 PM
good and cheap: Let's start at square one. What price range is cheap? I've got several S&W .22's that are no longer inexpensive, but they are great. I have only one Taurus revolver, a 941 LW 8 shot 2" .22 mag., it works well, but I've had my share of Taurus trouble so the 941 is it for me. What is the purpose for the gun? .22 is actually my favorite caliber. I saw a Ruger 10/22 at Wally World for $175 that got me thinking about another 10/22 project.

Peter M. Eick
November 12, 2005, 07:45 AM
Dan Wesson used. 722. Good quality, very overbuilt (its on their 357mag frame) and changable barrels. Just don't be the original buyer!

popeye
November 12, 2005, 08:29 AM
Yep DW is nice. I've got a Monson mod22 with a couple barrels and different grips. The DA pull is fierce. I've never messed with it though, as I use it SA only. Very accurate.

karlsgunbunker
November 12, 2005, 03:41 PM
Heritage Rough Rider .22lr/.22mag $119 @ SOG

Camanchee $149 @ SOG

twoblink
November 13, 2005, 12:38 AM
I've fired 1 Taurus 94, and didn't have a good experience.. It jammed, and when it didn't, the lug didn't swing out that easily..

TimboKhan
November 13, 2005, 02:05 AM
If you look around, you will see a plethora of good and cheap .22 revos on teh market, but for my money, IF you can find them, I would go for a H&R Sportsman 999. That is pretty much my favorite .22 revo ever, although I also like the Single Sixes, especially given that they come with a .22 Mag cylinder (if you go that route, make sure it comes with the mag cylinder. If it doesn't, you can whack a nice chunk off the price). Anyway, the problem with the 999's is that they aren't made anymore, and while I got mine pretty cheaply, a couple of guys here on THR say that in thier area they get expensive and are hard to find. For the record, the 999 will fire DA or SA, has a 9 shot cylinder, and ejects the spent casing automatically upon breaking it open (top break). Delightful, delightful gun that I wish was still made! Also for the record, I have really come to like Taurus pistols (especially the revolvers), but even I haven't heard an overwhelming amount of praise for the 94. On the plus side, Taurus warranties thier guns for the life of the gun, so if you get one, you can always get it serviced at the factory for the cost of shipping, one way. For that reason, and because I have been extremely satisfied with my other Taurus handguns, I would likely give the 94 a shot for the right price (no pun intended), as I do think its a handsome revolver.

loose cannon
November 13, 2005, 08:02 AM
+1 on the h&r999 i absolutely love mine and will not part with it! i have the 6"
barrel version and ive been thinking about ordering the parts to have a interchangeble 4" version.

if a petition comes to make it again i will sign it!!!

Flatfender
November 13, 2005, 12:47 PM
For less than $200 you should be able to find a used Ruger Single-Six or a Colt New Frontier.

I just bought a used H&R Fourty-Niner revolver at a local pawn shop for $90. NIB shape and it's a 9-shooter with a 9" barrel!

Vern Humphrey
November 13, 2005, 02:43 PM
For less than $200 you should be able to find a used Ruger Single-Six or a Colt New Frontier.

Gasp! Koff! Give a guy warning before you post something like that!!

A Colt New Frontier for less than $200? Buy it and send it to me -- I'll pay you double that, plus shipping.:what:

Rupestris
November 13, 2005, 04:25 PM
Anyone have a High Standard Double Nine?

My parents still have the Double Nine my grandfather carried as a rat stopper when he worked in the Detroit stock yards.

It got a corner of the cheap plastic grips broken off and the blueing is worn but it still shoots fine. I've seen 'em used for $100.

Flatfender
November 13, 2005, 05:03 PM
Gasp! Koff! Give a guy warning before you post something like that!!

A Colt New Frontier for less than $200? Buy it and send it to me -- I'll pay you double that, plus shipping.:what:

Holy cow - you're right! I looked up .22 colt blue book prices and I must have gotten real deals (steals).

I bought a 80% 1964 Nevada Centennial a couple of years ago for $170 at a little pawn shop by an Air Force base. It had some holster wear but it's a nice gun, but didn't have the mag cylinder. It's a Frontier Scout and not a New Frontier if I understand it correctly.

A 95% 1970 New Frontier with both cylinders for $225.

I won't tell you what I paid for a ANIB Woodsman Match 1st series this past spring. :D

p35
November 13, 2005, 11:12 PM
I have an old Rossi .22 revolver that works great. YMMV.

noname1
November 15, 2005, 07:38 PM
I have a SS Taurus 94 that I bought NIB for $209. It is accurate, with a trigger that initially wasn't great, but smoothed out beautifully with some shooting. I'd buy another!

Master Blaster
November 16, 2005, 08:44 AM
I alos have a Taurus 94 4" mine is blue, and is a pre hammer lock model.

I have put somewhere close to 10,000 rounds through it since I bought it in 1998. Its my #1 gun for taking new shooters to the range. It has an excellent trigger both double action and single action. ITs extremely accurate and balances very well. Timing is still perfect and despite lots of double action shooting it shows no wear to the locking bolt slots at all.

9 shots J frame size, adjustible sights. IIRC it was $210. Mt local shop has stainless ones for $279.

I would highly recommend it HIGHLY.

Last month I bought my second Taurus revolver, a tracker in .45 ACP.

It is also an excellent revolver.

GEM
November 16, 2005, 11:15 AM
Taurus guns are flakey. My 94 seized up and had to go back to the plant. I also had a PT-22, totally jammer.

I had a SW 317 but didn't like the trigger or want to mess with it. Now my 22 plinker is a Ruger SS Bearcat.

I also have some NAA 22 guns - they are really cheap but just for specialized carry.

Moonclip
November 16, 2005, 03:17 PM
I like the H&R 999 type guns too but I would not want it to be my sole 22lr revolver. At least on my 1941 example, the trigger is nowhere near as good as a S&W and I get the occasional misfire though I do understand this gun I have is quite old and I may need to replace the mainspring.

At least in my area too, H&R 999 type guns of any vintage are hard to come by and usually get a high asking price. 4" versions elude me too.

efeng9622
November 16, 2005, 04:39 PM
I am thinking about maybe I will buy a .22 revolver as my first revolver, the only reason I want to buy a .22 is I can save money for ammo. but the only thing I worry about .22 revolver is that maybe it's recoil is too small and i will not feel I shot a real handgun ( just like an air gun) . I have shot some.38 revolvers but never shot a .22 revolver before. Can anyone tell me what is your feeling?

fisherman66
November 16, 2005, 07:31 PM
efang,

You can't go wrong with a 22lr/mag for the first handgun. It teaches good habits as long as it is respected. Do not underestimate the power of the 22. Over the last week a kid was killed with an airgun near me, so don't underestimate that either.

I bet I have fired 100 rounds of 22LR for every centerfire round I have fired. A 22 should be standard equipment in every home.

I will begin looking for a Colt Officer's Target model or SP101 (22) when the finances allow. Right now I only have a 10/22. Great Fun!

efeng9622
November 16, 2005, 09:20 PM
fisherman66

Thanks! I have a 9mm pistol but have no revolver. I think if I can find one
.22 ( DAs. not SA types because I don't like the loading gate) , i will buy it. But I found the most of .22 are SA only. maybe there are a lot of DAs .22 but I don't know. Otherwise I will pick up a .38.
There is a gun show in our area from 11/18-11/20. I will be there try to buy it.

Thanks again!

355sigfan
November 16, 2005, 09:42 PM
DA 22's tend to cost as much as centerfire revolvers. Smith makes a lot of nice ones. I liked their 617 quite a bit.
Pat

efeng9622
November 18, 2005, 03:28 PM
I have two questions about Revolver here.
1) Some one told me don't buy any Taurus handgun because you wouldn't get good support from the company. Is that true?
2) I found there are a lot of .22 revolver belong to SA and use lording gate ( I don't like lording gate ) Is it correct?

Vern Humphrey
November 18, 2005, 03:34 PM
I have two questions about Revolver here.
1) Some one told me don't buy any Taurus handgun because you wouldn't get good support from the company. Is that true?

Go through this thread and you will read several first-hand accounts of Taurus revolvers being unsatisfactory. That, all by itself, would key me to avoid them.

2) I found there are a lot of .22 revolver belong to SA and use lording gate ( I don't like lording gate ) Is it correct?

Virtually all single action revolvers use a solid frame, and that requires a loading gate. In modern revolvers, you basically have two choices -- a solid frame and loading gate, or a swing-out cylinder. The latter is found almost exclusively on double action revolvers.

ArmedBear
November 18, 2005, 03:38 PM
DA revolvers tend to cost the same as centerfires. If you can find an old H&R, they're cool though. Haven't been made for years.

Ruger Single Six stainless. You'll never regret having it, even when you have a big collection. You'll never stop shooting it. Worth the money. Yes it's a SA with a loading gate, so it's not a boy's gun. If you read Maxim, wait a few years before you buy one.:p

Vern Humphrey
November 18, 2005, 03:50 PM
Here's an excellent buy from www.gunsamerica.com:
K-22 .22LR
GA# 976590799
$375.00
Smith & Wesson, K-22 in .22LR. Post war production in good condition. adjustable sights, bore in excellent condition, 6" Barrel.
Seller: CONNECTICUT GUN EXCHANGE, INC. 21/0
FFL Dealer: Yes Area Code: 203 GA Sales: 21

efeng9622
November 18, 2005, 03:54 PM
Vern Humphrey,
Would you please explain what it " solid frame" ? I am confused. Is it a part name? Because any gun's frame is solid.

ArmedBear
November 18, 2005, 04:01 PM
efang-

Some guns, particularly older ones, are "top-break" designs. They load like this:

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/webley_mk4_open.jpg

Smith and Wesson invented the design in the 1850s, and made top-breaks well into the 20th century. H&R made them even later. Now they are available as replicas of antiques, for cowboy competition shooting, from Uberti, Beretta, and I believe S&W, for a high price, in large calibers like .45LC.

Solid-frame double actions have a swing-out cylinder instead, and load like this:

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/sw40.jpg

(There are some DA antiques like Colt Lightnings and .22 plinkers like H&R guns from the 1970s and 1980s that have solid frames but load like a single action, but I don't think any current-production guns are like this).

Vern Humphrey
November 18, 2005, 04:12 PM
Vern Humphrey,
Would you please explain what it " solid frame" ? I am confused. Is it a part name? Because any gun's frame is solid.

Some guns had swing-open frames. The old Colt percussion revolvers (and some early cartridge revolvers) had two-part frames with no top strap.

Single Action revolvers have the frame made of a single piece of metal -- the moving loading gate is actually part of the recoil shield, not of the frame.

Modern double action revolvers have a frame made of two pieces of metal. The second piece is the crane which mates with a recess in the frame when the cylinder is closed and can be swung out to one side, carrying the cylinder with it for reloading.

cookekdjr
November 18, 2005, 04:32 PM
My Taurus 94 was fun to shoot, but needed warranty work right out of the box. I ended up trading it in. I think their rimfires are not up to the quality standards of their centerfire pistols, which I've had good luck with.
For $200, you can find more Ruger Single Sixes than you can shake a stick at. They are accurate, tough as nails, and fun to shoot.
You can't go wrong with a Ruger...
-David

BluesBear
November 19, 2005, 07:43 AM
Swing out cylinder revolvers are still usually a solid frame design since there is a single continuous frame of metal around the cylinder that also holds the barrel.

The crane is simply an additional piece and isn't considered to be a part of the frame since it only supports the cylinder and does nothing to increase the strength of the firearm.

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