richards microfit rifle stocks????


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one-shot-one
November 11, 2005, 10:51 AM
has anyone bought a stock from these guys? i'm interested but would like to know if they are reliable. i'm looking at the Quilted Maple. any cheers or jeers for this company?

http://www.rifle-stocks.com/

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R.W.Dale
November 11, 2005, 11:09 AM
They are legit. Nice stocks minor fitting depending on the action.

DnPRK
November 11, 2005, 02:22 PM
Charles Richard's shop is 10 minutes from my house. I have bought several stocks from him. Be warned that they are not finished stocks unlike Boyds or Fajen. You will have to inlet it to fit your action and finish the exterior. If you are patient and willing to do some wood working, the final result can be outstanding.

one-shot-one
November 11, 2005, 02:30 PM
if you don't mind, what wood/grade did you get how did it turn out?

TIMC
November 11, 2005, 11:42 PM
They are legit. Nice stocks minor fitting depending on the action.

Don't know about Minor fitting :confused:
I bought one earlier this year for my dad's Ruger 77. Fitting it was not minor, it was major finishing. The barrel channel was not cut along with a lot of sanding and griding with a dremmal tool. It did turn out very nice. I would think hard before putting that much work into one again. I do have to admit it was a fun project, I was just not ready for that much effort.

Here is how it turned out. Not bad for a 30 year old rifle.
http://photobucket.com/albums/v369/timc/th_Mvc-007s.jpg

mscott
November 12, 2005, 07:56 PM
They offer a nice product for the money spent. I've used a couple of them and it's not a 10 minute job getting a proper fit and finish. I'd guess about 20 hours to fit and finish and most likely more time than that. I made a jig to cut the barrel channel with a router. Check out their bargain section for clearance items.

hawkeye-1
January 24, 2007, 10:36 PM
I am having a real BAD experience with these guys!
Stock sent back due to fit issues and have already waited 15 weeks and they are now saying that I modified the stock in the area of the problem.
NOT TRUE!

They have already admitted to having problems with other Ruger 77 MKII
rifles in same area. Barrel channel is too large by aprox. .100".
The people are refusing to consider that they made an error.
We all do--so how do we handle the problem? THEY don't

If I don't get a replacement I will be taking other action you can bet.

browningguy
January 25, 2007, 12:27 AM
Boyd Brothers stocks are generally considered to be much closer to fitting than Richards. Over at Accurate Reloading we have had a lot of guys use both, I've got a Boyd JRS Laminate on my .458 Win. (Charles Daly Mauser action) and it was all of five minutes to get a near perfect fit. And that was because I've got a really heavy barrel on it.

Nothing wrong with the Richards I've seen, it's just that you need to realize they are partially inletted, not fully finished.

SUBMOAS
January 25, 2007, 12:46 AM
Stocks are fine.
Just remember that any stock you get, Richard's or Boyd's. You will have to fit. When it says 95% inletted. The last 5% will be the hardest.

Il Duca
January 25, 2007, 03:02 AM
I got a stock from them for my Savage project, semi-fancy Claro Walnut. Nice piece of wood. Of course it needed to be inletted to fit the action so I got to work on it. Got it about done and wanted to try installing it and see how it fit when screwed on. I put the rear action screw in and tried to put in the front. No dice, wouldn't go in. I shined a light down the hole and could only see the very front of the screw hole in the action. The hole in the stock was too far forward:cuss:! I called Richard's and of course they said I could return the stock, as long as it hadn't been altered from when I received it (like I hadn't just told them my story). I ended up having to plug the hole a redrill it. I am going to pillar bed it to try and get rid of the remainder of the plug. It really is a beautiful piece of wood, but I will be hesitant if (a big if) I use them again.

db_tanker
January 25, 2007, 07:47 AM
Browningguy,

On your Mauser stock, did you get the Fully fitted or the VIP?

I am looking at one for my Stevens and one for my Mauser and was curious about the quality...

Same line, too...the JRS...want the Walnut for the mauser and a Pepper Laminate for the Stevens.


D

browningguy
January 25, 2007, 10:26 AM
Mine was the VIP, and except for needing to take out a little more wood for the barrel it was very close. It needed some minor fitting at the magazine well also but not much.

clattin
January 25, 2007, 11:05 AM
I purchased a dual-grip thumbhole for my VZ-24 Mauser from Richards. Not done with it yet, still have some work in the barrel channel to make it free-floated, but I've been happy with it. I had to take some wood out of the action area to accomodate the Timney Trigger housing, but otherwise it was exactly what I expected. Will finish sanding it down and finish it with epoxy and Tru oil and post pics when the project is completed. No complaints here.

Chris

onemsumba
January 25, 2007, 11:40 AM
just be warned it takes about 3x longer than they say it will take to ship you the new stock. even for "common" action types.

they are pretty rough and will require a lot of sanding

GreyMauser
January 25, 2007, 12:44 PM
Ordered in April, delivered in November. Their phone system was useless, when I could reach them, they gave bad information, and they didn't return messages. Paid for exhibition grade, maybe I got it, maybe not. No complaints on the quality of their work.

Detritus
January 25, 2007, 01:44 PM
Let's sum it up, if you have any reservations about your ability to final inlet (95% inletted my rear, closer to 80%) and finish a stock, want your stock in a timely manner, or pretty much any level of customer service beyond "thank for the money here's your chunk of wood"

Don't go with a richard's microfit.

of all the various makers/sellers of laminate stocks, Microfit engenders the most horror stories. I personally would take that as a sign.

Plink
January 25, 2007, 05:15 PM
I've ordered from Microfit several times. Each time it took a month or more longer than they quoted, but each time I got a good stock for a good price. My friend has ordered twice from them also. The last time was an exhibition grade walnut stock. While it wasn't a spectacular piece by exhibition grade standards, it was a very good looking piece of wood for the price. I have never been burned by them and I'll probably order from them again, but I sure don't like they way they do business.

mustang_gt_350
March 2, 2007, 05:44 PM
Has the delayed ship always been a problem? and has any one ever recieved it on time?
I ordered my tac driver style 10-11 weeks ago. can't rem exactly it has been so long ago. Everytime i try to call the lines are busy or the inboxes are full.
When i called and placed the order i was told 6-8. I also emailed them on feb. 2nd AND STILL HAVE NOT RECIEVED A REPLY. :fire:
they must be growing trees in back of the shop and waiting for them to mature before they make the next batch.
losing my cool as every day passes.


How fast is ship time from boyds? as i am thinking about telling them to cancel the order and i'll find a stock on ebay or somwhere else.

hm2 clark
March 2, 2007, 09:48 PM
Over the last ~15 years I have ordered 6-8 stocks from Richards Microfit. Some were great, some were fair needing a lot of work, and some never came at all. They were always late. I use Boyds when I can now.

musher
March 2, 2007, 09:56 PM
Ordered a laminate with a decelerator and sling studs.

First one had a huge gouge in the pistol grip (probably about 3/8" deep. The shaping was so rough it looked like they had chucked a beaver in the router. When I called, they suggested I sand it out. After pushing them a bit, they took the stock back. The replacement they sent was cut so large I could have sanded out a 3/8" gouge! The inletting was probably 80% and I didn't get my decelerator or sling studs back.

Probably the last stock I'll buy from them.

ranger335v
March 2, 2007, 11:17 PM
I love 'em. Anyone who says they are only 80% has never done a stock from scratch.

Richards has good quality wood and they leave enough wood both inside and out to permit fitting to the barreled action and the shooter. Some others may not, like you may have a custom featherweight barrel but the stock channel may be cut too large or a cheek piece may be too low and there isn't a thing you can do about it.

I never had a deliverly problem (three stocks) but that's no proof it doesn't happen.

dakotasin
March 3, 2007, 01:11 AM
How fast is ship time from boyds?


i just ordered from boyds yesterday for a pre-64 winchester 70 and was quoted 5 months for my order.

Oohrah
March 3, 2007, 01:49 AM
I obtained six Garand rifles to be used as Ceremonal Rifles for
Honor Guard furneral services. The metal was reparkerized. The
stocks came looking like someone ran over them with a flay mower.
The first four rifles, I ordered from a vender that carried Boyd stocks
that were listed as finished. Three were drop in tight fit, and the fourth
needed a small amount of wood removed around the trigger group.
The last two were drop in snug fit ordered direct from Boyds and
were $20 each cheaper than the first four. Service was great! It
seems Boyd's wood may not be as dense as the orginal, but have no
clue what the old was finished in. About half of the stocks had some
character dark wood grain that was brought out by a few coats of
Scott's Liquid Gold. The Gold deepened the contrasting dark grain
leaving a dull lindseed oil look.
These rifles appear as new, right off the assembly line. Many
kind remarks from Marines outside of our area. Would I buy other
stocks from Boyd's. YOU BET !!!:)

GreyMauser
March 3, 2007, 09:54 PM
Boyds sent me one of their Remington 700 "virtually inletted" JRS stocks in plain walnut. Mine was ordered from their existing inventory. Received it about 10 days after ordering. Very smooth job with the curves mostly where they should be and straight lines mostly straight. Only problem was the blank from which they cut it was a little small at the forend, so that the front 2 1/2" was low on one side of the barrel chanel. Could be fixed with an ebony forend tip.

Wenig does relatively fast work. They used my old stock for the barrel/action inletting, and their pattern for the design. Very painstaking job and they actually called/emailed me with questions. I'd use either Wenig or Boyds long before I'd go back to Richards.

Trouble with Richards, since they won't talk to you on the phone, it's tough to cancel. The stock just finally shows up one day, and they've charged your credit card. So be careful you don't wind up with two stocks.

mustang_gt_350
March 3, 2007, 10:16 PM
ok thanks, I really like the styles that richards microfit offers. So i guess i'll just use my original stock and work it out a little to fit my heavy barrel. And i'll just play the waiting game until it arrives and then decide if i will purchase form them again. I wish i would get it soon tho so i could decide if i want to order from them again for my 375 h&h project so i can have it finished for this falls deer season. Maybe if i order it now i would have it for november.
thanks for all of your input.

SRG
March 3, 2007, 11:16 PM
I waited for nine months for a simple Mauser stock in AAA Fancy walnut; they sent a standard grade plain-Jane stock. Sent it back for the correct one and have been waiting now for another three months. It's been a whole year now and no stock. I'm kind of fed up with them and plan to get my money back ond go with a Boyd's. I cannot and will not recommend Richard's.

mustang_gt_350
March 4, 2007, 02:51 AM
Have you had problems getting in contact with them?

SRG
March 4, 2007, 10:00 AM
Yes. When calling, their mailbox is always full. When e-mailing, they don't answer. the one time I was able to talk to them by phone, near the nine-month mark, they said "...Oh, yes. That is ready to ship." It made me think that my stock had been sitting there all along and thay just decided to ship it because I called. Something fishy is going on over there.

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