Homeland Security Out of Control


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priv8ter
April 2, 2003, 06:34 AM
When I first read this, I was certain it was some kind of April Fools joke. But...sadly it looks like it's true. :fire:



Janet Hendricks was just trying to see "Chicago," a stop at the movies after lunch in East Naples on Thursday afternoon.

But before she could purchase a ticket at the box office at the Towne Centre 6, she was hit with a bit of homeland security.

An employee stopped her and said she couldn't buy a ticket unless she placed her purse in her car, a new policy at the theater designed for security reasons.

"I told him that if he wanted to search my purse, that would be fine," the 38-year-old East Naples woman said. "But I wasn't going to put my purse in my car...I understand about security and that measures have to be taken. But this is a theater in East Naples."

Hendricks and her boyfriend, James Blair, 45, of North Naples, were given written citations, telling them they are banned for a year from the Towne Centre 6 theater on U.S. 41 East by management. The ticket indicates that they caused a disturbance.

A sign at the theater tells movie-goers about the homeland security policy prohibiting purses, bags and other carry-along bags from the theater. Employees were telling patrons to take their purses to their cars.

"Some older people were walking right back to their cars with their purses," Hendricks said.

She said she didn't think it was a good idea because thieves could be watching them carry their belongings back to their cars and then go inside to the movies.

Management called deputies when she started telling some of the other patrons that they didn't have to put their purses in their cars. She said the deputies were polite and just doing their jobs, although she said the officers told her that it was their first brush with domestic security at a business.

She said she could have taken the cash she had inside her purse out, grabbed her wallet and gone to the movies. Or she could have loaded up her pants pockets with her belongings.

"And I guess I wouldn't have looked suspicious with everything in my pockets," Hendricks said. "It's my constitutional right."

Sheriff's spokeswoman Tina Osceola said causing a disturbance is enough to get the citation.

"Arguing is enough to get you trespassed," she said.

Sheriff's officials say they haven't heard of other businesses banning purses from being brought inside for security reasons.

"It's up to each business to implement their own measures," Osceola said. "There are going to be inconveniences."

Deputies are concerned that leaving valuables inside their cars can be dangerous and are urging patrons to leave their belongings at home or secure them in their vehicles.

Hendricks believes she was being asked to give up her rights to go to a movie.

"We're at war and I understand we should be more careful," she said. "But that's why we're at war, to give them freedom."



Sounds to me like the theater is using the Homeland Security excuse to prevent people from sneaking in their own candy and stuff. :scrutiny:

Bravo for the lady for walking away at not giving them her $8

:barf: :barf: :barf:

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Lone_Gunman
April 2, 2003, 06:45 AM
Private business can make its own rules, even if they are stupid.

If they lose enough business, they will change the rules.

Marko Kloos
April 2, 2003, 07:20 AM
Management called deputies when she started telling some of the other patrons that they didn't have to put their purses in their cars.

That's where she was wrong...private business owners can set whatever rules they want, and her only recourse was to refuse doing business with them. As much as I dislike the DOHS and the piece-o-crap legislation called the "PATRIOT Act", this had nothing to do with Homeland Security. This was a stupid private rule, not a stupid law. The management was completely in the right when they made the deputies cite her.

JohnBT
April 2, 2003, 08:29 AM
If they knew how much stuff I can get in my baggy pleated pants pockets, they'd have a new rule...

"Sorry sir, you will have to leave your pants in the car."

JT

Jack19
April 2, 2003, 08:48 AM
I dropped my uncle at the local airport this morning. The last I knew there was a "security" checkpoint before you entered the parking decks but you could still drop off at the front entrance.

Now the "security" checkpoint is nearer the perimeter and I got flagged over for a vehicle inspection. As I pulled to a stop I started to tell the "security" officer that I was armed and that there was also a rifle in a discrete carry case in the trunk. He cut me off and asked that I open the trunk, I opened the trunk, he looked inside and said "okay."

I drove up to the entrance, dropped off my uncle and drove away. I wonder what he was looking for?

braindead0
April 2, 2003, 08:53 AM
There just trying to cut down on bringing in your own goodies.. If I ever went to a theatre and they asked me to leave my jacket o' pockets in the car... I'd walk with my money..

HarryB
April 2, 2003, 09:26 AM
A theater near me that I frequent (Mesa Grand 24) allows patrons to bring in food from vendors in the same complex without any hassle. Nothing like a matinee with a bag full of Rubios fish tacos...

Leatherneck
April 2, 2003, 09:33 AM
Ms. hendricks is confusing "violation of my constitutional rights" with garden-variety stupidity.

TC
TFL Survivor

Pilot
April 2, 2003, 09:35 AM
If you want an example of Homeland Security run amok, look how Mayor Daley of Chicago just closed Meigs Airport. He did it in the middle of the night without warning anyone and stranded 16 planes which are basically being held hostage.

He said it was for security reasons, but the truth is he wants to build a casino there to further line his corrupt pockets.

Jesse H
April 2, 2003, 10:49 AM
Argh.

At the Rodeo in Houston they were checking purses, and I was thinking,

"Gee, if it weren't illegal for me to CHL here I could've gotten away with so much more than the tic tacs my friend had in her purse."

Last night on the news they were covering how the security at Minute Maid park has increased with the purse checking and other miscellaneous BS. The sheep that were interviewed baaa baaa'd about how the sacrifices made are worth it for their "safety."

Augustwest
April 2, 2003, 10:59 AM
"It's my constitutional right."

:banghead:

DeltaElite
April 2, 2003, 11:06 AM
She was actually sneaking in candy and popcorn, that's why she was targeted. ;)

beckrodgers
April 2, 2003, 12:04 PM
Thats real good when the bad guys decide to strike a purse wont make no dif,1 guy sick w/smallpox or small viles of whatever walk rite in and spread thier nbc weapons . Anuther great idea by the conservatives put into motion,well klinton proposed all this bs yrs past now most is law.Thanks

QuickDraw
April 2, 2003, 12:18 PM
Well,women generally carry purses.Could this be constued as discrimination?

QuickDraw

Augustwest
April 2, 2003, 12:22 PM
It's stupid, and I wouldn't patronize a movie theater that had such rules, but property owners not allowing purses on their premises has nothing to do with a woman's constitutional rights or discrimination.

Selfdfenz
April 2, 2003, 01:46 PM
Way to screw this theater chain.

Get one of those large mesh onion bags. It's not a purse and you can see through it.
Fill it with all your purse contents AND a bunch of the same type candies and snacks the theater sells.

Walk right in. No problemo. If they balk, then it was not security all along....... but just the theater protecting it's consession stand.

If they will not let you take in that mesh bag, then call Channel 5 and get them some publicity.

S-

geekWithA.45
April 2, 2003, 06:03 PM
How about:

"This is nonsense. I want my money back, and a word with the manager."

And if they ticketed me for THAT, I'd happily drag all their asses into court, and make a mockery of them.


One of my favorite handy phrases is "your policy is not my problem".

Variant: "my policy is that your policy is not allowed to be my problem".

QKRTHNU
April 3, 2003, 01:04 AM
If they knew how much stuff I can get in my baggy pleated pants pockets, they'd have a new rule...

"Sorry sir, you will have to leave your pants in the car."

JT
But Sir........... These aren't my pants. :D

MitchSchaft
April 3, 2003, 01:14 AM
I'd happily drag all their asses into court

Under what grounds?

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