Indiana: "Bill would disarm batterers"


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cuchulainn
April 2, 2003, 08:49 AM
http://www.post-trib.com/cgi-bin/pto-story/news/z1/04-02-03_z1_news_15.html

Bill would disarm batterers
April 2, 2003

By Carole Carlson / Post-Tribune staff writer

INDIANAPOLIS — Legislation that prohibits domestic batterers from possessing firearms moved a step closer to becoming law Tuesday.

By a 6-3 vote, a Senate committee passed the bill to the full Senate for final consideration. The bill has already passed the House.

No one spoke in opposition to the bill which would close a loophole in Indiana law that conflicts with a federal gun law.

An Indianapolis lawmaker, who told the committee she was a former battered woman, urged the committee to support the bill authored by Rep. Linda Lawson, D-Hammond.

“For a short time, I was in a violent marriage,” said Rep. Caroline Mays. “One time he grabbed me by the neck and said he was going to kill me.”

Mays said using a firearm can be very impersonal. “It’s an emotional time and things happen very quickly.”

Mays said her former husband killed himself with a gun.

Federal law prevents people convicted of domestic battery by a state court from possessing firearms.

But an Indiana judge ruled last year that if those convicted have other civil rights restored such as the right to vote, they’re also entitled to possess a firearm.

The judge made the ruling because Indiana law doesn’t have a statute on the firearms issue.

The committee approved an amendment that restores the right to possess a gun with a judge’s approval after five years.

Steve Johnson, director of the Indiana Prosecuting Attorneys Association, supported the bill.

“I think it’s one of the most important pieces of legislation you’ll pass,” he said.

Lisa Judd, of the Marion County prosecutor’s office, said there’s a large rate of recidivism among domestic batterers.

“Over time it becomes more and more lethal,” she said.

Fort Wayne police Capt. Dottie Davis said police officers are frustrated because they can’t take guns away from batterers.

Davis said in past three years, 66 percent of women murdered by batterers were killed by a gun.

“It’s very frustrating when you know they have a weapon and there’s nothing you can do,” she told the panel.

Reporter Carole Carlson can be reached at 317-631-7400 or by e-mail at ccarlson@post-trib.com.

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foghornl
April 2, 2003, 09:17 AM
Isn't that already a law....as in the Lautenberg Amendment ? ? ?and an ex-post facto law, at that? ? ? ?

anchored
April 2, 2003, 10:52 AM
Yeah, it is a Federal law already. Probably part of the "Crime bill," which always confused me because I thought crime was already outlawed.

But, it's not an ex post facto law.

DeltaElite
April 2, 2003, 10:58 AM
Wife beaters need guns too.
Their fists get tired yanno. :neener:

Wife beaters are pathetic cowards, they rarely fight the cops, but are good at beating defenseless women. :fire:

CatsDieNow
April 2, 2003, 12:13 PM
“For a short time, I was in a violent marriage,” said Rep. Caroline Mays. “One time he grabbed me by the neck and said he was going to kill me.” Mays said her former husband killed himself with a gun. Seems to me that, in this particular case, her ex-husband having a gun was beneficial. Makes for a poor arguement here. :confused:

Silver Bullet
April 2, 2003, 02:01 PM
My gripe with these kinds of laws is you give the law an inch and they take a mile. I'm afraid the definition of "batterers" will be expanded first to include things like verbal abuse, then raising your voice, then dirty looks, and then silent treatments.

Soap
April 2, 2003, 02:40 PM
Cats Die Now- Ironic, isn't it?


Does this cover all batterers or only the domestic battery variant? Because, if I were ever in a defensive situation where I used unarmed force, I could be labelled a "batterer" by law as well. Or maybe I'm just confused :confused:

Chris Rhines
April 2, 2003, 02:48 PM
That's the problem I have - I've seen some really flaky definitions of "domestic battery" come down the pike.

- Chris

Standing Wolf
April 2, 2003, 09:22 PM
Davis said in past three years, 66 percent of women murdered by batterers were killed by a gun.

What percentage of all women murdered in the nation are victims of killers with firearms? Does anyone know?

cordex
April 2, 2003, 09:34 PM
What percentage of all women murdered in the nation are victims of killers with firearms? Does anyone know?
Ask and ye shall receive.
In the year 2000:
Female murder victims: 3,945
Female murder victims, by firearm: 1,795
Gross percentage of female murder victims killed by firearms: 45.5%

El Tejon
April 2, 2003, 09:45 PM
Ummm, that's not what the Southern District of Indiana said!:eek:

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