Purchasing rifle in NJ


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CUG123
November 25, 2005, 04:41 PM
I am 19 years old and I live in NJ, what do I have to do in order to buy a rifle at a local gun shop? I am mainly going to buy firearms from the WWII era so I am not going to go hunting with them and not shoot them often. Is a hunting permit still required?? I am currently in the Army and I am trained in shooting so is some bs NJ law still requiring me to go to a safety course?

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WT
November 25, 2005, 05:49 PM
You will have to go to the local police station and apply for a firearms identification card. You will have to undergo a background check. Once the check is completed and the police chief issues you an ID card, you will be able to purchase rifles and shotguns.

For additional info, here is a link to the NJ State Police website.
http://www.njsp.org/about/firearms.html

PaladinX13
November 25, 2005, 05:58 PM
http://www.njguns.com/permit.htm
Step by step to the permit process.

For me, in practice, it has been a painless and quick process... for my friend, a zip-code away, it's been a long and painful wait (they brought him in for finger printing twice, failed to contact him at every juncture, and is STILL waiting on his permit despite waiting over four months). The only thing I can think of to help speed up your permit is to make sure your references turn in their background check forms quickly.

Average Joe
November 25, 2005, 06:31 PM
It takes a bit of time, but if your clean, its no big deal. Once you get the FID, its good for life, and you can buy as many rifles and shotguns as you like, even out of state at gunshows.

Tankcommander
November 25, 2005, 07:05 PM
Your home town police department is the limiting factor. Some are much better then others and prices for the permits and fingerprints can vary. If you move you have to get a new card your address on your DL has to match your firearms ID. Also the PD sends out to the State Police to do the background check and its $15 I think which has to be sent with a money order. It may take some time and we are limited to somewhat in what we can buy but its not to bad. I sure hope Corzine doesn't screw it up.

TC

Nathaniel Firethorn
November 25, 2005, 07:10 PM
Corzine has a huge budget deficit, out-of-control everything, and an immense corruption problem, partly his own doing. He can either work on these or distract the public by bashing somebody. Along with smokers, we're the prime target. What do you think he'll do? :rolleyes:

- NF

Standing Wolf
November 25, 2005, 09:14 PM
What do you think he'll do?

The wrong thing, of course: he's a representative of the Democratic (sic) party, so he's compelled to blame everyone but himself.

M99M12
November 25, 2005, 09:20 PM
First things first. Get out of Jersey.

BTW welcome to the high road

CUG123
November 26, 2005, 03:39 PM
Thank you for all your help, I should get started right away...btw I hate corzine but I cant leave Jersey I have all my family and friends here

PaladinX13
December 12, 2005, 03:39 PM
My friend has finally got his permit (yay!) after applying for it in JULY... so be patient (as you can tolerate if you're not going to get a lawyer) it might take as much as 6 months for your PD to finish your paperwork.

If you're looking to buy an "assault" type weapon, geekwitha.45 has this advice:
Get them from an FFL in PA.

Why an FFL? Because he'll keep you square with NJ law, and won't sell you anything on the banned list. Also, because, you know, the Feds require an FFL to be involved in interstate commerce.

Why PA?

Because it's nearby, and because although you have to fill out the Jersey paperwork and show your FID, (The FFL must obey 3 lawsets: Fed, PA & NJ), the paperwork doesn't actually go to jersey, it stays on file in PA, in full accordance with all lawsets. NJ has no jurisdiction to review paperwork in PA.

Short of inheriting or moving in with, it's as close to lawfully getting a longarm and staying off the NJ radar as you're going to get.

WT
December 12, 2005, 03:50 PM
While it is true that NJ has no jurisdiction to review paperwork in PA, the PASP and NJSP share firearms info all the time. NJSP sends officers to the PA gun shows to see what gets put into the trunks of cars with NJ license plates.

Be careful of parking lot transactions.

geekWithA.45
December 12, 2005, 04:59 PM
The PASP aren't aware of longarm transactions, unless they're tapping NICS, and FTF transactions aren't lawful for NJ subjects anyway.

Incidentally, my advice isn't "assault(ish) weapon" specific. It's general to all longarms. The more ignorant NJ is, the better for its subjects.

PaladinX13
December 12, 2005, 05:47 PM
To be clear, when you say a FFL in PA, you're basically saying ANY gunstore in PA, right? Since all gunstores need FFL's right? You're just excluding gunshows and person-to-person sales?

WT
December 12, 2005, 07:59 PM
deleted: getting off track.

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