I can't figure out what caused this jam.....


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Drizzt
November 26, 2005, 02:30 AM
http://army.ca/album/Humour/pistoljam.JPG

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Preacherman
November 26, 2005, 02:32 AM
Perhaps you should ask the H&K representatives at the next SHOT show? :D

Justin
November 26, 2005, 02:32 AM
Looks like an extreme case of operator error to me.

Fly320s
November 26, 2005, 09:00 AM
Well, the bullet is pointed in the correct direction, but the gun needs to be turned around. There, that should do it. :D

jsalcedo
November 26, 2005, 01:11 PM
What kind of gun is that?

And someone needs to buy a hollow ground screwdriver :neener:

lycanthrope
November 26, 2005, 01:13 PM
Bullet obviously afraid of the dark/claustrophobic. Tried to escape.

Sunray
November 26, 2005, 01:44 PM
"...What kind of gun is that?..." It's an Inglis High Power with ammo that doesn't know if it's coming or going.

cxm
November 26, 2005, 04:45 PM
Fairly easy question...

Operator loaded a round in the magazine backward...

Had a student in a CHL class do the same thing last year.

FWIW

Chuck

mnrivrat
November 26, 2005, 04:56 PM
What CXM said + 1

The only other explaination I can think of is the cartridge went through the magazine lips and got reversed by the slide.

lycanthrope
November 26, 2005, 07:00 PM
The fact that it fed a reverse round is actually somewhat impressive. Let me go try something......

Shorts
November 26, 2005, 07:03 PM
hahahaha nice. One of the Es in the squadron did that last year during quals, loaded the mag backwards :uhoh: :D

Standing Wolf
November 26, 2005, 09:17 PM
That's a trifle harder to do with a revolver, although I'm sure it's been done.

sm
November 26, 2005, 09:32 PM
FranCan 115 gr FMJ is pictured.

According to the FranCan Ammo Spec's, to many shooters this new cartridge design may appear to be different - actually - this is a better design and once the shooter gets accustomed to, will understand we of course are right.

;)

lycanthrope
November 26, 2005, 11:47 PM
FranCan 115 gr FMJ is pictured.

According to the FranCan Ammo Spec's, to many shooters this new cartridge design may appear to be different - actually - this is a better design and once the shooter gets accustomed to, will understand we of course are right.

;)


Better than A-Merc.......

Justin
November 27, 2005, 01:04 AM
Better than A-Merc.......

Yeah, but so is a pile of rocks.

jsalcedo
November 27, 2005, 01:15 AM
FranCan 115 gr FMJ is pictured.

FranCan Stein ammo looks to be about equal to Amerc

sm
November 27, 2005, 01:26 AM
Justin, you've been watching ABC again haven't you? ;)

In every box of FranCan ammo there is a users guide.

-How to stick flag staff into a pile of rocks ( that way you don't drop the flag).
-How to whimper, whine and say "what happened" in various languages.
-How to motigate with handcuffs and leg chains.
-How to properly hold onto cell bars and get a even tan with striped sunshine.


FranCan Ammo, Producers of Utopian ideals for the Elite since ...

;)

lycanthrope
November 27, 2005, 02:25 AM
So....next thread....

Is a blunt stick better than A-Merc?

SomeKid
November 27, 2005, 06:37 AM
Alright, I give, what is A-Merc?

Feanaro
November 27, 2005, 07:39 AM
Alright, I give, what is A-Merc?

American Ammunition, AKA A-Merc.

BTW, I'd take the stick. :D

JMusic
November 27, 2005, 09:29 AM
Should have kept the slide closed they don't rattle as much while using as a club.

Too Many Choices!?
November 27, 2005, 09:40 AM
Just let me take this length of cleaning rod, plus my trusty mallet and in a couple of seconds.....Voi...BANG!!!!!!!!:evil: :uhoh:

RJChapman
November 28, 2005, 02:04 AM
I experineced that malfunction. Was confused at first, till I figured it out.:confused:

Pistol was Sig P226, 15 rounds magazines. Training session included empty gun (speed) reloads. Since the class was roughly half .45 and half 9mm, the empty gun reload was called by the range master to keep everyone together. I found that when an empty gun reload was called for and my magazines were mostly full, the magazines hit the ground hard enough to compress the magazine spring and occasionally allow a round swap ends within the magazine.:what:

It only occured when I was dropping nearly full magazines in reload drills.

If your partially loaded magazine was dropped before being inserted into the magazine well, that may be the cause of your malfunction. Particularly if the magazine springs are aging and getting weak.

Just my $0.02

Azrael256
November 28, 2005, 02:25 AM
Ok, I fiddled around long enough and got a round to do that (actually, a snap cap, but y'know). If you chamber a round in my 1911, pull the slide back VERY slowly so that the ejector doesn't knock it out, and then drop the magazine while letting the slide forward quickly, you can get it to flip over. It sorta falls down the mag well, and then gets caught by the slide and pushed in backward. I also had good results with keeping the magazine in, pulling the slide back real slow so that the round doesn't actually eject, and then shaking the pistol real hard. I don't recommend trying this with live rounds, as you may tear up a perfectly good cartridge.

kikilee
November 28, 2005, 03:23 AM
Limp Wristing!

bogie
November 28, 2005, 09:47 AM
Hey, guys... I've had that happen... In a 1911, from a properly loaded magazine... Pistol was getting a bit cruddy, and I guess I just caught the "perfect jam." Flipped it around... Slide stuffed the bullet a little...

hso
November 28, 2005, 11:37 AM
The gun looks like a Browning HiPower.

Tharg
November 28, 2005, 12:38 PM
I have a Hi-power knockoff that did this... there wasn't any shaking of the gun or anything other than shooting it properly.

went through two 17 rnd magazines and swapped to a 10 round magazine... the last round fired and then jammed the spent brass in backwards instead of ejecting it... still don't know how it happened, but haven't fired that gun since then...

heh

J/Tharg!

Ukraine Train
November 28, 2005, 01:41 PM
someone's been reading the HK brochure

johnmcl
November 28, 2005, 02:27 PM
Hi all,

No, no, no, you have it all wrong.

This is one of those guns from the "Wild Wild West" TV show with Robert Conrad in the 60's. This gun is handed to you by a bad guy who intends for you to point it at him and then shoot yourself. Your job as James West, is to execute a 180 degree flip, and fire at him through the grip.

I've seen it done, at least on TV.... :)

John

Sir Aardvark
November 29, 2005, 03:41 AM
Rats!......

The first thing I thought of when I saw that round stuck in the barrel was A-Merc ammo - but it seems like everybody else beat me to it.

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