Auction for Stolen firearm?


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Zonamo
November 26, 2005, 02:40 PM
Saw this on Gunbroker:

Auction for H&K P7 M8 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=40583724)

Right side of slide has no markings. Slide reblued? by previous owner.

Just by "coincidence" the right side of the frame also has no markings.

And also by "coincidence" this is a first-time seller.

What do you think-stolen or just refinished?:scrutiny:

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Preacherman
November 26, 2005, 02:48 PM
I see no reason for thinking it to be stolen - as long as the frame bears a serial number, that's all that is required. One can check the serial number against the NICS record of stolen firearms.

marklbucla
November 26, 2005, 02:51 PM
One can check the serial number against the NICS record of stolen firearms.


How and where do I go about doing this?

Zonamo
November 26, 2005, 02:53 PM
as long as the frame bears a serial number

Here's another auction for the same pistol.

Heckler & Koch P7 M8 9mm H&K HK (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=40742188)

On this gun the serial number is stamped very clearly on the frame just below the serial number on the slide, both on the right side.

These numbers are missing from both the frame and slide on the first auction I linked:scrutiny:

Psssniper
November 26, 2005, 03:30 PM
Maybe its a "sterile" gun from some exotic alphabet agency that we never heard of ;)

mnrivrat
November 26, 2005, 04:02 PM
SN & data wiped from the gun - as far as I know that makes for an illegal gun wether stolen or not & lends a lot of support to a stolen gun theory.

ceetee
November 26, 2005, 04:10 PM
Some guys photoshop the numbers of a gun when posting a picture. (Not having a criminal mind, I'm not exactly sure why, but I think it has something to do with people out there making up phony receipts, and filing "stolen gun" insurance claims or something...)

gezzer
November 26, 2005, 04:20 PM
Photoshopped so an anti does not report it stolen?

joab
November 26, 2005, 04:21 PM
If you look at the pic of the right side you can see the smudge where the serial has been photo shopped out

It also looks , from the pic of the second gun, that the frame and slide are supposed to be matching numbers.
Perhaps the slide was replaced for some reason and the missed matched numbers stood out more than a clean slide

Chipperman
November 26, 2005, 04:24 PM
This gun may have been from a Police trade in, and the prior owner had the slide ground and reblued.

As long as the SN is on the frame, you can grind or etch the slide any way you want.

Jason M.
November 26, 2005, 05:45 PM
It definitely looks like a photoshop smudge to me. IMO, the seller would have been better off making it obvious that he was hiding the serial numbers rather than blending them in.

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