Big mistake in the movie "Derailed"?


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XDn00b101
November 29, 2005, 02:26 AM
During the movie Derailed, I watched the part where he gets his "friend" to scare the BG to leave him alone. In the car this wannabe thug told main character not to worry, beacuse the gun was empty, as it was just being used to scare the BG. Now even though I'm new to the scene, using an empty gun like that has to be one of the most stupidest things to do. I was shaking my head, as I would rather not even carry, than carry with no ammo. Is this tactic good in any way, or am I right?

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TonkinTwentyMil
November 29, 2005, 02:47 AM
Haven't seen the movie.

However, assuming the gun was a semi-automatic, how could anyone visually tell it was "empty?" Was the slide locked back? Was the magazine removed?

carebear
November 29, 2005, 02:51 AM
Course, there are people in the world who aren't going to be "intimidated" by a gun until it actually goes off.

I recall a lady accosted in a parking lot by a guy with a gun in his wasteband with the safety on, who, recognizing her advantage, drew on him and held him for police. IIRC

strambo
November 29, 2005, 03:42 AM
I saw the movie and that was pretty stupid of that character. I don't think you should try to "scare" someone with a gun, but even if you did it wouldn't hurt to have ammo. I mean you might end up needing it! If you don't plan on shooting anyone, then don't squeeze the trigger. A gun without ammo is just a paperweight.

shaldag
November 29, 2005, 07:30 AM
well, I'm kinda new here, but a little surprised by this thread. Does anyone here really htink that Hollywood is going to get it right? Those guys don't even get it right when they know something about the subject. I would say that the entertainment industry is about the most self-defense and firearm ignorant community in the entire US.

Geno
November 29, 2005, 07:47 AM
It seems to me that this scene constitutes just one more case of moral bankruptcy of Hollyweird. They decry gun owners, then present gun owners ALL OVER the big screen. They know that brandishing a gun is illegal, but they present it as not only acceptable, but non-dangerous. Holly weird is the enemy! Boycott their movies and anything the promote. If every gun owner in America would do so, Hollyweird would get the idea. Heck, maybe they'd even get a movie right. But, to their "defense", the government and powers that be, have used the media (and still do) nearly forcing that they present such and such a movie during war time to solidify the ranks in the public. Boycott Hollyweird!
:barf:

Doc2005

alellis
November 29, 2005, 08:00 AM
A number of years back I was entering a drinking establisment and a guy I vaguely new was being ejected. The bouncers were lecturing him " That was a really stupid thing to do" and so on but the weren't throwing him out head first as they usually do.

Turns out he got into it with some other guys and pulled a plastic gun.

Lucky I suppose that nobody pulled a real one.


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Janitor
November 29, 2005, 08:15 AM
In the car this wannabe thug told main character not to worry, beacuse the gun was empty, as it was just being used to scare the BG.
<comic book store guy>

In episode #29, scratchy was playing music with a xylaphone mallet on itchy's exposed rib cage. At one point, you clearly show him hitting the same rib twice, but a different note comes out each time. What is this? Do you expect us to believe that this is some sort of magic xylaphone or something?

</comic book store guy>

It's just Hollywood. They couldn't buy a clue, even if you took them by the hand to the clue store.

Lucky I suppose that nobody pulled a real one.
Bingo. Bad day for the poser when that happens.

And a big THR welcome to both of you.
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Henry Bowman
November 29, 2005, 09:53 AM
Did anyone consider that maybe it was part of the story for the unloaded gun-holder to be stupid? :uhoh:

The Drew
November 29, 2005, 09:59 AM
It seems to me that this scene constitutes just one more case of moral bankruptcy of Hollyweird. They decry gun owners, then present gun owners ALL OVER the big screen. They know that brandishing a gun is illegal, but they present it as not only acceptable, but non-dangerous. Holly weird is the enemy! Boycott their movies and anything the promote. If every gun owner in America would do so, Hollyweird would get the idea. Heck, maybe they'd even get a movie right. But, to their "defense", the government and powers that be, have used the media (and still do) nearly forcing that they present such and such a movie during war time to solidify the ranks in the public. Boycott Hollyweird!
:barf:

Doc2005

Brandishing a gun is NOT a crime in PA, Threatening someone with a gun when you are unjustified IS a crime. And as per a local DA and Sherriff, Drawing a gun and using it as a threat to stop property crime is NOT deadly force. And it most certainly IS NOT a crime to brandish a gun in self defense...

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