FEG PJK-9HP Opinions?


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Dr.magnum
November 29, 2005, 09:27 AM
I traded for this recently. It is a high power clone. It has a raised vent rib, good bluing, fixed sight. It is marked as a Kassnar import.
I have heard the older ones are better made, is this true? Hopefully I'll get out to shoot it today, I've got the day off but it's really cold right now.
Can I use cheap ammo, like Wolf, Silver Bear, etc., or should I stick with Win. white box? Thanks.

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carolinaman
November 29, 2005, 09:34 AM
Hi there Dr. Magnum,

Back in September 2004, I got the HP itch and never having owned one searched for one high and low locally until I ran into a FEG PJK-9HP that had languished in a gunshop for 2 years NIB.

The salesman made a great "got to get it out of inventory deal" and I purchased it. It has become one of my favorite handguns and I have since bought a BHP Mark III, a Argentine FM and a 76C HP classic!

My only gripe is that there are some FN parts that need fitting to replace. However, it is a great shooter and I do carry it as my CWP handgun. It has been accurate and flawlessly reliable from day one.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/carolinaman/c7fa712f.jpg

fegarmy has a long and historical lineage in European Firearms Manufacturing and Kassner, aka KBI now Charles Daly, has a lifetime warranty on their firearms. Feg also provided parts for the Isreali Mark I Kareem and most recently the Charles Daly HP.

I shoot quite a bit of Winchester White Box/CCI Brass cased ammo in mine without any problems. I have not tried Wolf or Silver Bear.

Enjoy!

Chris

BryanP
November 29, 2005, 09:46 AM
I bought one used within the past year or so. It had a truly awful (extremely heavy) trigger. I have no idea if it was that way from the factory or if it was buggered by some home gunsmith, but a quick trip to my local smith fixed that problem. After that the only problem I've had with it can be traced to one of the magazines I bought. It's mainly a range toy and it's not the prettiest thing it in the world, but it's accurate and reliable.

atblis
November 29, 2005, 09:55 AM
It was absolutely beautiful. Some of the best blueing I've ever seen. I've been told the PJK-9HP is a true Hipower clone. The newer FEGs are not the same. This made it difficult to sell at the gunshow because everbody was like "I can go get a new one for xxx". Yes, but that's not the same gun.

The trigger was truly awful. It needed a new sear and maybe a hammer. However for the $225 dollars I payed for, I would easily have dumped another hundred or two just to get it right. In the end I got rid of it because it bit the living crap out of my hand.

I would definitely recommend buying one, just plan on doing some work on it.

carolinaman
November 29, 2005, 10:11 AM
Hi there,

Yes, the FEG PJK-9HP is not renown for its silky smooth trigger pull.

My fix for that was to remove the magazine safety, replace the trigger return spring with a C&S X-tra power trigger return spring and do some judious internal polishing with 600 grit emery cloth.

Now, it has the best trigger pull rivaling more expensive guns in my collection.

Here is an updated picture of my PJK-9HP:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/carolinaman/S20101202.jpg

There isn't a "free lunch" when you buy an inexpensive handgun and the FEG was worthy of the effort.

Chris

Dr.magnum
November 29, 2005, 01:19 PM
Well, I got out in the cold and tried it out. It shot great with Independence ammo and Brown Bear, both FMJ. It seemed to like the Brown Bear better. I was shooting at a 2x4 at about 12 yards and chewed it up.
Next question, will aftermarket HP grips fit it? I've got dark walnuts, I was thinking about some exotic wood. Thanks.

carolinaman
November 30, 2005, 04:35 PM
Hi there,

Some aftermarket grips will fit right out of the box and some will not particularly with custom wood.

Since there were minute variations in the dimensions of HP frames Grip cut outs, some need a little fitting and others none at all.

Chris

larryf1952
November 30, 2005, 09:33 PM
Very nice looking handgun, carolinaman. I'd be glad to have that one in my safe any day. I own a P9RK, and likewise have been pleased with it.

HPJeep
November 30, 2005, 10:45 PM
I've got one and a World War II Inglis Hi Power. I love them both. The FEG was NIB and it was cheap. It has worked without a hiccup for 2000 plus rounds. I shoot whatever I have on hand whether surplus or new stuff. Great gun for the money!

Dr.Rob
December 1, 2005, 03:10 AM
FEG's varied greatly in fit and finish... while the 'early' PJK-9HP's were clones, later guns used cheaper machining of the slide cuts... but they remain a heck of a good pistol for the money.

The current Charles Daly HP is a true clone.

Dr.magnum
December 1, 2005, 06:43 AM
I hope I'm not asking too many questions here, but-----I was looking at auctions to compare my gun to others. One thing I noticed was that I didn't see any others with a raised vent rib on the slide. Mine has it. It doesn't look like an aftermarket, there's no name stamped on it anywhere. Was that just an odd variation? If I can get my daughter to show me how, maybe I can get a pic posted. Thanks.

carolinaman
December 1, 2005, 07:10 AM
Hi there,

Yes, the earlier production FEG PJK-9HP's came with the raised rib and semi ramp front sights.

FEG has change the design in small ways over the years according to the "percieved" market appeal of their products.

Chris

Mad Magyar
December 1, 2005, 08:07 AM
It's so refreshing to read nice comments on a Hungarian pistol w/o being called a POS, unlike my poor, maligned, & abused LLama..:uhoh: I've not seen a FEG in these parts for a long time except on the internet.

Tropical Z
December 1, 2005, 02:33 PM
The only vent rib FEG's I've seen are the FP-9's.That's what I have and it's been a good gun.Trigger isn't as bad as most people claim.

carolinaman
December 1, 2005, 03:28 PM
Hi there,

Yes, they are a well kept secret and I know I lot of Hi Power afficianados that own them:

Today 08:07 AM
Mad Magyar It's so refreshing to read nice comments on a Hungarian pistol w/o being called a POS, unlike my poor, maligned, & abused LLama.. I've not seen a FEG in these parts for a long time except on the internet.

It's suprising, but the fit and finish on mine is better than my Browning Mark III.

Chris

Dr.Rob
December 1, 2005, 04:22 PM
I'd agree the vent rib model was called the FP-9

FEG made Hi-powers for Mauser called the SA-80... nobody caught on that they weren't made in Germany.

I've about melted the bluing off the grip of mine, but the rest of the pistol is dark and shiny.

Dave R
December 1, 2005, 06:18 PM
I have an older one. True clone, as far as I can tell. A BHP extractor fit it fine...

I really like it.

mbott
December 1, 2005, 07:56 PM
Back in September 2004, I got the HP itch and never having owned one searched for one high and low locally until I ran into a FEG PJK-9HP that had languished in a gunshop for 2 years NIB.

Like carolinaman, my first HP itch was satisfied with the PHK-9HP. Still have it even after adding a .40 Browning and a 9mm FN to the collection. Solid, well made and accurate. Couldn't salvage the the trigger with the mag disconnect, so it's been removed. It's the only one where I've had to take the additional step of removing the disconnect to get a decent trigger.

--
Mike

BHPshooter
December 1, 2005, 07:57 PM
Yep, if it has a raised vent rib, then it's an FP-9. I owned one until about 2 months ago. They're pretty good guns, especially for the money.

Enjoy the heck out of it!
Wes

res1b3uq
December 1, 2005, 08:33 PM
I was surprised when you said your pistol worked well on WWB. I have a PJK and a Charles Daly. They both have problems with WWB. I have used quite a few different brands of ammo, and that is the only brand I ever had any problems with.

allmons
December 1, 2005, 09:01 PM
I liked the FEG I owned very much, but several other gun acquisitions forced me into a decision to sell it a year or so ago. Somehow I wound up with a left over FEG magazine in a basket weave style leather case. This may be the wrong forum, but I would like to sell it or trade it. Thanks!
:)

Gordon
December 1, 2005, 09:14 PM
I'll take that!:)

carolinaman
December 2, 2005, 05:10 AM
Hi there,

My FEG has been a "useful" handgun to experiment with as far as becoming familiar with the Browning 1935 design. I have detail stripped it several times and enjoy the fact that it is a handgun that I can "tinker" with.

On the other hand, it has become a great shooter, and now with the magazine safety gone, the trigger is about 4.5 lbs and crisp.

Chris

allmons
December 2, 2005, 07:02 AM
Gordon - it's a 15 rounder as best as I can remember. Can I legally send that to the People's Republic of **********?

:uhoh:

gvass
December 2, 2005, 08:17 AM
It's so refreshing to read nice comments on a Hungarian pistol w/o being called a POS, unlike my poor, maligned, & abused LLama..:uhoh: I've not seen a FEG in these parts for a long time except on the internet.

En meg sokat latok beloluk szart is itt az ohazaban.
:-)))

BHPshooter
December 2, 2005, 09:12 AM
I have detail stripped it several times and enjoy the fact that it is a handgun that I can "tinker" with.

That's what I enjoyed about mine. I think I actually miss it. :o :eek:

Wes

carolinaman
December 2, 2005, 02:06 PM
Hi there Wes,

Yes, even I remember the posts you used to make regarding your FEG.

Don't miss it too long, buy another!!!;)

Chris

Mad Magyar
December 2, 2005, 06:30 PM
Gvass, a Magyar van mint rossz mint bánya. ;) Watch your language.:D .:Never could read/write in the mother tongue.:o

BHPshooter
December 3, 2005, 08:29 PM
Don't miss it too long, buy another!!!

Well it isn't a FEG, but I've got an FM Argentine on the way from a fellow THR member. :) The finish on the FMs looks like it will agree with my body chemistry a LOT better than the bluing on FEGs.

But hey -- it's a Hi Power! ;)

Wes

carolinaman
December 4, 2005, 04:56 AM
Hi there Wes,

Does it look like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/carolinaman/S2010155.jpg

I bought this used from a gunshop for $225.00.

It is getting a extractoronomy this week as the extractor has been worn beyond reliable extraction at no charge since the FM came with a 1 year warranty.

Chris

BHPshooter
December 4, 2005, 03:43 PM
Hi Chris. Actually, I don't know... I haven't seen it yet, but it is an M90, so I believe it is a generation later than that one. I should have it in about another week, so I'll post pics when I get it. ;)

That one is gorgeous! I love that finish. It looks like it shoots, too! How is the trigger on that one?

What is it about HPs that makes them more addicting than chocolate? I'm trying SO hard to love my 1911, but I just keep coming back to the HP as my fave.

Wes

carolinaman
December 4, 2005, 05:10 PM
Hi Wes,

Yes, it is a "beater" and a "shooter".

It is more worn than the photo does justice. However, when I last shot it before "surgery", I had the gunsmith with me and I launched 13 rounds downrange at a target at 15 yards as fast as I could pull the trigger. When the smoke cleared, the X ring was gone from the target!

I call it my "stealth" HP. Looks like crap, but shoots like gold!

Chris

BHPshooter
December 5, 2005, 01:33 PM
I call it my "stealth" HP. Looks like crap, but shoots like gold!

It doesn't get any better than that -- a gun that you don't hesitate to use "rough" if needs be, but that you can also count on to but the lead where you need it.

Man I love these guns.

Wes :)

Smitty 308
December 7, 2005, 03:38 AM
Hey Mad Magyar, I just "have" to tell this story about a FEG 9mm I bought.:)
The story had a happy ending and I have owned enough guns over the years to know that one example doesn't mean all guns of the same make are lacking.
I stopped by my local FFL's store and saw a brand new looking 9mm FEG Hi Power clone. The dealer said he didn't think the previous owner had fired it more than a couple of times. So I bought it and took it to the range on my next visit. I had fired five or six rounds through the gun and the slide fell off. Yep, the slide fell off and landed on the counter in front of me (indoor range). I reassembled it and fired it a couple more times and the same thing happened again. So I put the gun away til I could check it out. Seems that the detent on the barrell link that holds the small steel ball in place had not been machined during the manufacturing process. I machined a recess for the ball to rest in thus holding it in place and everything worked fine after that.
The malfunction worked something like this: with no recess to hold the ball in place (detent) the slide lock pin worked loose and moved sideways, falling out and allowing the pistol slide to move forward. I must have lowered the gun between shots allowing gravity to work on the slide.
I wouldn't believe it if it hadn't happened to me. FEG's are fine weapons. I now have a FN Hi power also. I like em all. I check em all a bit closer no matter who's brand is on it.

Mad Magyar
December 7, 2005, 08:32 AM
Thanks Smitty, Oh Well, there goes my great "quality control- non-POS" theory out the window for the Hungarian armaments. Must of been a worker on the "graveyard shift" that had a little too much "sor & bor".:evil: Let me tell you about this certain Kimber-Ultra-Elite-Raptor-Desert Warrior that......;)

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