What Semi-autos shoot 7.62x54R?


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DMK
November 30, 2005, 07:57 PM
The ones I can think of: Russian SVT (38 and 40), Romanian Romak(RPK), and then there's the Chinese TIGR ($$) and Russian Dragonov ($$$$).

Any I'm missing?

Anybody have a Romak they'd like to sell? :)

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hksw
November 30, 2005, 08:08 PM
Zastava M76 (http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn65-e.htm)

DMK
November 30, 2005, 08:14 PM
Zastava M76 (http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn65-e.htm)Ooh, that's nice. I wonder if any of those were ever imported.

Now I remember reading in Shotgun News that the Iraqis have a pretty decent version of the Draganov too. They'll probably all get crushed. :banghead:

Gun Wielding Maniac
November 30, 2005, 11:57 PM
As a note, the Romanian Romak as you call it is actually known as the PSL. Romak is the commercial name for it. There is also the Iraqi SVD version... Can't remember its name. It was unique though.

Kurush
December 1, 2005, 12:33 AM
There were early SKS prototypes in 7.62x54R, also there's the SV98 sniper rifle and the SVU sniper rifle.

There are also semiauto conversions of the PKM, DP-28, and PM M1910 either being made or pending ATF approval.

Yes, M76s have been imported, but only in 8mm AFAIK (as parts kits).

grimjaw
December 1, 2005, 12:52 AM
DMK, that cartridge has been interesting me ever since I saw the Mosin Nagant rifles, but I still haven't taken the bait. I did shop around for Romaks/PSL's, and you can occasionally find decent deals on GunBroker.

jmm

Cosmoline
December 1, 2005, 01:47 AM
There were some fantastic light machine guns in 54R, including the reliable DP M-27/DPM and the Finnish "Lahti." I've always wanted a semiauto version of the DP-27 to clean house at the range :D

hksw
December 1, 2005, 01:52 PM
Ooh, that's nice. I wonder if any of those were ever imported.

Yes in the early '90s. Wanted and should have gotten a 7.62X51 version back then but I slacked off.

DMK
December 1, 2005, 09:58 PM
Yes in the early '90s. Wanted and should have gotten a 7.62X51 version back then but I slacked off. I was just looking earlier at a post turned up by a search on one of the other forums. The guy had a pic of a Russian, Romanian, Chinese and Yugo rifle. It was a very nice collection.

DMK
December 1, 2005, 10:03 PM
DMK, that cartridge has been interesting me ever since I saw the Mosin Nagant rifles, but I still haven't taken the bait. I did shop around for Romaks/PSL's, and you can occasionally find decent deals on GunBroker.

jmmI agree that it is an interesting cartridge, I believe the oldest rifle cartridge still in service. The fact that there is so much very decent ammo available for ultra low cost makes it even more attractive. I must have about 10K and I still don't even have some from all the countries available although I do have a very wide variety.

With 7.62x39 getting so pricy and hard to find, this is starting to look like a very attractive alternative for cheap semi-auto fun.

Domino
December 2, 2005, 12:26 AM
As a note, the Romanian Romak as you call it is actually known as the PSL. Romak is the commercial name for it. There is also the Iraqi SVD version... Can't remember its name. It was unique though.

The name of the Iraqi SVD varient is the Al Kadesiah, and yes they are destroying them on a massive scale :banghead:

http://www.dragunov.net/svdaction_iraq.htm

karlsgunbunker
December 2, 2005, 04:01 PM
I just bought a Romanian FPK Paratrooper from SOG for about $600 delivered.
18" barrel. Feels like an AK on steroids.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a269/karlsgunbunker/show_productpic.jpg

Cosmoline
December 2, 2005, 05:13 PM
The name of the Iraqi SVD varient is the Al Kadesiah, and yes they are destroying them on a massive scale :banghead:

http://www.dragunov.net/svdaction_iraq.htm

AND BUYING NEW AK'S BY THE MILLION!!

I second your :banghead: and add my own :banghead: :banghead:

Gotta love our gobment. I see those piles of burning rifles and just have to conclude our military is led by some of the most idiotic people on the green earth. It's beyond stupid. It's almost profanely wasteful. When I contrast that to the careful revival of all the old Mosin receivers and captured Soviet weapons by the Finns, I just shake my head. We really are a wasteful, arrogant nation sometimes. I very much doubt the insurents are destroying the arms they get from us or the Iraqi military.

DMK
December 2, 2005, 06:39 PM
I just bought a Romanian FPK Paratrooper from SOG for about $600 delivered.
18" barrel. Feels like an AK on steroids.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a269/karlsgunbunker/show_productpic.jpg
Those Paras look really cool. I can't find them for sale anywhere anymore.

KriegHund
December 2, 2005, 07:14 PM
Wasnt ther an egyprian rifle...

The hashish, or hajjaj, or some such like that?

Harry Tuttle
December 3, 2005, 10:17 AM
Russian Veprs were made by Molot in 54R

dfaugh
December 3, 2005, 10:29 AM
You're thinking of the "Hakim"...that gun fired 8mm Mauser..cool gun, I want one.

DMK
December 3, 2005, 02:44 PM
Russian Veprs were made by Molot in 54RReally? Same gun as the 7.62x39 Veprs we see here in the US?

Domino
December 3, 2005, 03:30 PM
Wasnt ther an egyprian rifle...


The Hakim was a Swedish design originally called the AG-42b and it fired the notorious 6.5X55 swede. The machinary was sold to the Egyptians and they produced the rifle in 8X57 and named it the "Hakim."

http://surplusrifle.com/shooting2005/hakimstory/index.asp

http://world.guns.ru/rifle/rfl17-e.htm

I have a Hakim and I like it very well but, it only seems to want to extract the steel-cased Romanian surplus as any brass cased ammo will typically FTE.
My father believes he may have ruined the weapon using surplus, corrosive 8mm machine gun ammunition but, it still is able to shoot the Romanian ammunition reliably and accurately.

Hakims are a little expensive these days but you can probably find one on gunbroker or something.

thereisnospoon
December 3, 2005, 04:18 PM
There is also the Tokarev SVT 40. A fine weapon, I have had several, but stupidly, sold them to fund other projects. If you can find one for sale and if it is in good shape it will be ~ $600.00 or more. Good guns though...

http://world.guns.ru/rifle/rfl06-e.htm

and

http://www.ammoman.com/GUNS/

Crosshair
December 3, 2005, 07:38 PM
Anyone I can write to stop this idiodicy with burning perfectly useable guns???:banghead:

/Not like they will listen.

Harry Tuttle
December 4, 2005, 06:43 PM
the .308 vepr has a russian cousin in 54R

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