[BozemanMT]

saw one in the store today
pretty
shiny
nice trigger
and it's a Sig.
stop me before it's too late.:rolleyes:

[Jim Watson]

I'll stop you.

Sig-Sauer is bringing out more and more guns on the X-Five cocked and locked P226 design, at more reasonable cost. A real Sig instead of a Colt copy.

[glocker1911]

If you're talking about the "older" GSR with a rail, they had a lot of issues to watch out for. If you mean the new Revolution, all I can say is I bought one, it's my new ccw, and I feel it to be the best 1911 I've ever had ( for referance, I've owned Wilson KZ45, a Springer TRP Operator, and a Kimber Gold Guardian in the past). I say this is as good as it gets until you buy a true custom like Nighthawk, and I don't really see how they could be that much better. Did I mention I'm really impressed with this gun?

Yes, I know it's not a "real" Sig, and most of those are very nice too. As far as being a Colt copy, well, that may be considered true because it IS a 1911,
don't take "copy" to mean in any way "lesser". Buy one, I'll bet you love it.

PS. Did I mention that I'm really impressed with this gun?:D

[BozemanMT]

yeah, the one with the rail.
what issues?

[glocker1911]

Do some reading on both the Sig forum and the 1911Forum for lots of info on the first GSRs. Some known issues were hammer lean, sometimes bad enough to hit on the beavertail, poor beavertail fit with gaps at the frame, the extractor pin was reported to "walk out' sometimes, and some stories had the FPS cover in the slide working loose. The one I owned had rust issues. I won't go into it here, but I've been around guns long enough to ensure you that my rust problems weren't cause by neglect (frame rust twice in the week and a half I owned it plus rust in the barrel. Keep in mind that not all GSRs had any or all of these problems. Many people made posts of NO problems and a great gun. All of my problems aside, I was impressed enough by the potential the gun showed to take another look when the Revolution came out. Although I feel all of the issues have been resolved now that Sig is making frames and slides "in house" I wouldn't be afraid to buy an original rail model again if I inspected it first. One other note of interest, almost every thread I have read on the rail models complimented their reliability, and every thread I read made comment of how accurate they are. Good luck.l

[BozemanMT]

well, this one is brand new, still in grease, etc box.
I bought it
it's for the wife for our anniversary.
No, really, it is.:cool:
she's a bigger gun nut than me.
"ohhh, pretty she says":D
oh yes, nailed that gift.
sweet
it is pretty, I hope it shoots well, sure locks up tight, sweet trigger.

[jc2]

It's just another 1911 parts pistols (except for the initials on the slide). It is assembled from parts provided by various manufacturers (for example, the frame is made by Ruger). The NRM Colt 1991A1 is a better buy (and a better pistol).

[glocker1911]

No, the frame is not made by Ruger. The original GSRs used Caspian frames. The new ones are made in house. And I believe you will find most 1911s, even Colts, are made with parts from various manufacturers. Very few companies actually make all of the parts used in their guns. While I'm not knocking Colts, and while it may be a better buy since I'm unfamiliar with what prices Colts go for now, I seriously doubt that a Colt 1991A1 is a better pistol than a Revolution. But of course, we all have our own opinions, and that's what keeps the gun forums interesting!

[1911_sfca]

Bought one about a year ago. Had to get the plunger cap replaced cuz it was too tight and was hard to get out when field stripping. I was brand new to guns and 1911's, and the barrel bushing fit was so tight it got jammed up while field stripping. When unjamming it, I bumbled it and scratched the bushing. (I didn't have a bushing wrench or know what one was at that point). Sent it back to Sig, they replaced the plunger cap and also the bushing on my request, and didn't charge for it. Of course if I had known that a tight barrel/bushing fit is *good*, I would have kept the original..

Ever since then, absolutely reliable. After almost 3000 rounds there is starting to be a little play in the slide/frame and a tiny bit in the barrel where it locks up. (ejection port opening).

To prevent further wear, I just bought another 1911 for plinking. :)

The Sig GSR is a beautiful, accurate, reliable gun. Of course you have to make sure to avoid the known problems.. With a first production run I kind of expected some issues, but Sig was excellent about fixing it, very fast, and it's been flawless since.

Just my experience..

[jc2]

No, the frame is not made by Ruger. The original GSRs used Caspian frames.
BUT the Caspian frames SIGArms use ARE made by Ruger (Pinetree). So, yes, the frame was made Ruger.

The bottom line is the GSR is just one of several good production 1911s including the Colts (1991A1 and Government Model), the SW1911, Kimber, etc. The GSR is just another overpriced parts gun.

[glocker1911]

You left out the rest of my reply. Sig no longer uses Caspian frames. As for me, I'm perfectly happy with my "overpriced parts gun". But then, I paid less than $500 for my first Colt series 80 govt model in satin nickel back in 84, so all guns are "overpriced" today. Part of life, I guess!

[jc2]

Kind of a moot point--depending on how long it has been is the supply/distribution system, it could very easily be a Ruger-made frame (and the end, it doesn't make a lot of difference--there are SIGs with frames by Ruger).

I wasn't really commenting on the quality of the GSR beyond it is in the same league as several other production 1911s including those by Colt, S&W, Springfield, Kimber, etc. There is really nothing to set it apart from the competition and the choice should be made on price rather any particular brand name.

[glocker1911]

Not trying to hijack a thread and/or argue with anyone so this will be my last comment. There is one big thing which sets the new Revolution apart from most of the other production 1911 makers, and that is the fact that Sig makes their 1911 without any mim parts. Choosing a gun only by price, wouldn't we all own RIA 1911s? Good luck.

[jc2]

Again, considering to mid to upper-end production 1911s, the GSR is just another choice. There is truly nothing to set it apart from the competition. The GSR is a good handgun but so are the competing models from the major manufacturer. The deciding factor should be the price not the brand name.

[BozemanMT]

Finally got out to the range yesterday.
Great gun.:D
Ate everything and built little bitty groups.
After a while the wife was putting bullets in the 1" dots (from the Shoot N See targets, I use them for eyes on IPSC targets) at will.
She loves it
no malfs, no FTE, no FTF's
and cheap ammo
I got to shoot it once.:rolleyes: