T/C Encore questions


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NateG
December 3, 2005, 01:24 PM
A few questions:
It is my understanding that if I buy an encore that started life as a handgun, I can put a long barrel and rifle stock on it and use it as a rifle, then take the stock and barrel off, and make it a pistol again. But I can't take a encore frame that started life as a rifle and put a handgun grip on it and a short barrel. Right?

If I buy a handgun frame and have multiple handgun barrels, can I also own a rifle frame (with proper length barrels), or would that potentially get me in trouble for having the parts to assemble a short barreled rifle?

Thanks

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Grumulkin
December 3, 2005, 03:28 PM
1. You can put a rifle stock and rifle barrel on an Encore receiver that started life as a pistol.

2. I don't believe you can legally put a handgun grip and pistol barrel on an Encore receiver that started life as a rifle.

3. You can have all the short barrels laying around that you like suitable for assembling a short barreled rifle as long as you do not assemble a short barreled rifle.

one-shot-one
December 3, 2005, 03:54 PM
i donot own an encore but i was under the impression that as long as you never assemble the frame with a shoulder stock and a bbl. shorter than 16" you are leagle. but better to check thanto be sorry.

NateG
December 3, 2005, 05:56 PM
Grumulkin,

3. You can have all the short barrels laying around that you like suitable for assembling a short barreled rifle as long as you do not assemble a short barreled rifle.

I've heard it said that those who have registered M16s shouldn't have extra full-auto fire control groups lying around if they also have non-registered, semi-auto, AR15s as the extra sears, disconnecters, etc., could be assembled along with the AR15 to create a machine gun. Are short barreled rifles treated differently?

Thanks again,
Nate

Buzztail
December 3, 2005, 09:24 PM
It's cool as long as you don't actually build an SBR. You can do some reading on the topic here Greybeard Outdoors (http://www.graybeardoutdoors.com/phpbb2/index.php) There is a forum just for Contenders,and Encores

jefnvk
December 4, 2005, 12:43 AM
Not legal advice, but everyone in my family that owns an Encore (4 or 5), was told when they got the gun that if they wanted to build it as a pistol, they had to have the pistol model.

Buzztail
December 4, 2005, 08:48 AM
I found some reading for you to do.

On June 8, 1992, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the Contender pistol and carbine kit are not a short-barreled rifle under the National Firearms Act, 26 U.S.C. §5845(a)(3). This means that a consumer may possess the pistol with its 10" barrel and may use the kit parts to make a rifle with the 21" barrel, as long as the shoulder stock is not assembled onto the receiver at the same time as the 10" barrel.

link (http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=504&invol=505)

link2 (http://www.stephenhalbrook.com/tc.html)

Ohen Cepel
December 4, 2005, 09:08 AM
Buzztail nailed it (as I understand).

Only way I could see you being in trouble was if you had several pistol barrels and a stock. Yet, no rifle barrel. Might not send you to jail, but wouldn't be a good idea.

I have no stock for mine, or rifle barrels for that matter. However, if I got a stock I would be getting a barrel ASAP.

I don't really like it in rifle set-up so never bothered with it.

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