[ka50]

What are deep concealment techniques that you know of?

For situations when it is extremely important that gun doesn't print at all, especially during the summer.

[MDG1976]

I highly recomend the Smartcarry (http://www.smartcarry.com/). I'm 5'11, 165lbs and can carry my snub nose revolver with great concealment, even with snug fitting jeans and shirt. With slightly baggier clothes, I can carry my Beretta Px4 (4" 9mm semiauto) with no problems. If you're "fortunate" enough to have a beer belly, can can conceal even larger guns with the smartcarry. The only disadvantage is that it takes you longer to draw your gun because you have to reach into your pants.

[AJ Dual]

NAA Mini-revolver and some KY jelly? :uhoh:

Nahh. I wouldn't say that! Not here anyway, so good thing I didn't say it. :D

Besides, "presentation" can be awfuly tricky... (I jest, but it's been tried. IIRC it was an attempted prison break. Unsuccessful attempt I might add. The x-ray of the con's pelvis with the revolver "up in there" is on the internet somewhere if you search..."

Instead of "no printing" you might want to go for: "print, but make it look like something else".

If you go with a tuckable IWB holster, put your cell-phone or a multi-tool on your belt right over where the holster is. That will create a bulge or a shadow that will draw attention away from the bump of the holster or the "J" hooks that loop over the waistband, and under the belt. The phone, pocket knife, or multi-tool sheath might also serve as a handy handle to yank your waistband out while you draw...

Another option might be pocket carry. Snubbie revolvers, mini-glocks, Kahrs, and the mini-Kel-Tec .32, or .380 can dissapear easily. Some pocket holsters have a square flap that shields the entire gun and holster, making it either dissapear as flat, or look like a wallet. Then, get rid of your wallet for a money clip and the bulge won't look suspicious at all. If you don't have that kind of pocket holster, a thin wallet, square folded handkerchief, or a slim PDA computer will serve just as well.

I also saw an ad in the last two issues of Guns & Ammo for "Harvest" brand cargo/BDU pants. The entire thigh pocket is actualy a rip-away velcro holster panel. It even has internal suspention making it ride like a "tactical" dropped thigh holster. The ad has this awful duck-hunter camo, but I believe regular khaki is availible.

No matter how hot it gets, if I wear a short sleeved button down shirt, I usualy wear a white t-shirt underneath as a buffer. You could wear a shoulder holster over the t-shirt, but under the button down. If it's casual wear, you could leave half the buttons on the outer shirt unbuttoned. Just be sure the outer shirt is loose and roomy, and a medium to dark fabric with a pattern.

Finally, concealed carry is like having a zit on your face. It looks huge to you in the mirror, but everyone else hardly notices. Think about it. How much time YOU spend looking at everyone's pockets, waists, and crotches in public?

[MDG1976]

How much time YOU spend looking at everyone's pockets, waists, and crotches in public?

You really don't want to know.

[Standing Wolf]

A Million Mom March pouch.

[jsalcedo]

I highly recomend the Smartcarry

http://www.smartcarry.com/ check out the photo link at the bottom of the page. There is one sexy model showing off the smart carry system.

[rudolf]

http://www.smartcarry.com/ check out the photo link at the bottom of the page. There is one sexy model showing off the smart carry system.

You found the PHOTOS link sexy ????
Well, I prefer the EXPOSED link :evil:

[thereisnospoon]

I use the Pager Pal with either my .40 S&W G23 or w/ a S&W model 60 .357. Wore that one tonight BTW with dress pants to the company Christmas party (notice i didn't say Holiday Party, I digress...). Danced w/ several people and hugged many and none were the wiser.

Presentation is easy with about 20 minutes practice.

Certainly not as fast as my SS IWB, but effective at "deep concealment".

[nero45acp]

DeSantis "The Insider" holster.



nero

[jsalcedo]

You found the PHOTOS link sexy ????

I love it when someone falls for that :evil:

[TimboKhan]

A Million Mom March pouch.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Bravo Wolf! You do us Coloradans proud!

[ka50]

Thanks for ideas guys!

[Bobo]

Neck Carry or Down Under at bottom of page (http://www.palehorseholsters.com/pocket.htm)

SmartCarry (http://www.smartcarry.com/)

Ultra-Hyde (http://hideyourgun.com/hideyourgun/ultra-hyde/ultra-hyde.htm)

Thunderwear (http://www.thunderwear.com/)

[Bill73]

http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL524/636041/1968861/119006183.jpg

[boing]

KelTec P11 with the belt clip, for me. I clip it on my waistband (under the belt, not on it), at 3:00. For the very rare, uber-stealthy scenario, it goes to the appendix position, condition 3, and hides under my (modest and diminishing ;)) belly.

[AK103K]

Kramers Confidant "tee shirt" holster(s) (it actually has two on it) works very well under a shirt. I've concealed a Combat Commander on one side and a double reload in its belt carrier on the other, all under a tucked in, full cut oxford shirt. Two SIG P230's are a lot more comfortable though. :)

[ka50]

KelTec P11 with the belt clip, for me. I clip it on my waistband (under the belt, not on it), at 3:00. For the very rare, uber-stealthy scenario, it goes to the appendix position, condition 3, and hides under my (modest and diminishing ;)) belly.

Aren't you afraid of pulling the trigger this way while moving around? Sure it might have 8lb trigger, but it's still risky IMO.

[Ryder]

Deep concealment is itself a huge risk. Aren't you afraid of handicapping your presentation speed? The majority of threats on your life will be at close range with very little time to react.

[DouglasW]

I've been very satisfied with the Kangaroo cotton shoulder-holster (for carrying a 642 under a dress shirt) as reviewed here: http://www.gunblast.com/Kangaroo.htm

DouglasW

[GunnySkox]

http://www.gunblast.com/Kangaroo.htm

http://www.tidepoolwebdesigns.com/kangaroo/

Shazam!

~GnSx

[ka50]

Deep concealment is itself a huge risk. Aren't you afraid of handicapping your presentation speed? The majority of threats on your life will be at close range with very little time to react.

In case you have to to go to some state where carrying is umm... not exactly legal, I'd like to make sure I don't print.

But in any case being judged by twelve is better than being carried by six.

[JimmyD]

Ultra-Hyde

Sorry for responding to an old post but I would think twice before ordering from Ultra-Hyde. I had bought one, returned it for modification, and after making one excuse after another, they quit responding to me so I'm out of a holster and the money I spent on it.

Just wanted to warn others to beware of these thieves!

JD

[Henry Bowman]

Another newer option is the 5.11 Tactical Undergear(TM) Holster Shirt. http://www.511tactical.com/index.asp?dlrID=511&dept=3&number=40011

[Werewolf]

http://www.smartcarry.com/ check out the photo link at the bottom of the page. There is one sexy model showing off the smart carry system.Smartcarry???

How in the world could one sit down wearing that thing and you sure as heck couldn't draw while sitting assuming you could in fact sit which I doubt.

Heck - it is darn near impossible for me to draw a snub nose 38 from a front jeans pocket while sitting - no way could I draw from a smartcarry while sitting.

Smartcarry must be for folks who carry while standing up???

[Car Knocker]

Smartcarry must be for folks who carry while standing up???


Also for folks who don't overhang their belt.

[danang]

Actually is quite comfortable. Just be careful not to shoot your wee-wee off. Of course depending upon your age, it might not matter. If someone asks about the bulge, tell them,"It's my colostomy bag", and they will change the subject.

[Dravur]

with my Budha-esque form, I have no problem concealing a M-2 Machine gun and a couple belts of ammo.

[Dirty Bob]

I've been trying a Galco IWB tuckable horsehide holster with a P-11, in the appendix location, both tucked and untucked. I consider tucked to be deep cover, but I find it faster and less fumble-prone than a front pocket. It's also available while seated (or driving). So far, it's fairly comfortable, with excellent concealment. I may make some modifications to the holster soon, as it's a little longer than it needs to be, and I would prefer a solid belt loop instead of a j-hook.

[entropy]

This has worked for me in the past with guns as large as M1911's. A little trick I learned from an SF CPT I worked for in the Army.



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I plan on picking up a Barami grip for my Cobra for when WI makes CCW legal.

[Jim K]

However you carry, a piece of good advice is not to keep fiddling with the gun or holster. Most folks don't look close enough to notice an odd bulge or someone fooling around with his belt or waistband, but cops are trained to look for just those things. Even if you are legal as can be, it is better if no one knows you are armed.

Jim

[Mortech]

I haven't used a string holster in decades , it was great for when I was in the army and didn't want to mess with a holster while wearing my BDUs . I carried a Springfield 1911A1 with mine .

[jamz]

I've been fooling around with a smartcarry twisted around to position the gun high (grip above the waistline) at the 3:30 position (or wherever you are comfy carrying it). I tuck a shirt in over everything, and an officer's 1911 just disappears, even under a light polo shirt (my preferred summer work shirt).

[rockstar.esq]

I use a C-Tac Tuckable for my Sig p220 which for those that don't know is a full size .45. In fairness, the holster needs to be worn at 3:00 for maximum concealment and requires a roomy shirt worn loosely tucked all around to really work effectively. I find that it is particuarly fast (once the shirt is out of the way) and that the shield side facing me keeps my sweaty hide soaking my gun. As with all IWB holsters I've ever seen, the carrier must remember not to bend at the waist excessively ( as in bending over to pick something up) rather, they should stoop down instead. One unexpected source of discomfort is the bucket seats in some cars. They tend to force the butt of the gun in awkward angles. I guess it's best to cap this all off with a repetition of something I've read here before; ccw is supposed to be comforting not comfortable. That being said I use the clip on my Keltec P-32 to great effect and have been remarkably comfortable. I guess I should expect as much from such a tiny gun and caliber. (beats a pointy stick all the same).

[10 Ring Tao]

Tuckable IWB, or smartcarry.

[Bobo]

jamz said;I've been fooling around with a smartcarry twisted around to position the gun high (grip above the waistline) at the 3:30 position (or wherever you are comfy carrying it). I tuck a shirt in over everything, and an officer's 1911 just disappears, even under a light polo shirt (my preferred summer work shirt).
Yes, a SmartCarry can also work quite well as bellyband, IWB or OWB type holster. They're actually quite versatile.