Kid shoots himself with pen gun. Now sheriff wants to see them outlawed.


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Molon Labe
December 5, 2005, 09:24 AM
Here's the short version of the story: a kid in Saint Paris, Ohio (which is where I live!) held a "pen gun" to his temple and fired it after drinking a lot of alcohol. He thought the gun didn't work. :rolleyes:

Idiot.

Sounds like Darwin in action to me.

To top it off, Champaign County's illustrious sheriff thinks pen guns should be banned. Heck, he'd probably like to see all guns banned.



Rapper's family, friends stunned by death

http://www.daytondailynews.com/localnews/content/localnews/daily/1204zorn.html

Pen gun accident killed 22-year-old at launch of career

By Anthony Gottschlich (agottschlich@DaytonDailyNews.com) (click to email)

Dayton Daily News

ST. PARIS | Twelve hours before he was to wrap up a record deal with a national independent music company, Steven Zorn's life ended with the click of a pen.

Steven Zorn and his friends created a Web site, www.MrPit.net, where viewers can learn about the late rapper, his music and a planned online store for clothing and other merchandise. Proceeds from sales will help Zorn's mother spread the word on pen guns and gun tragedies.

Zorn, a 22-year-old rising rapper from this rural village of 2,000, about 50 miles northeast of Dayton, shot himself in the head late Nov. 18 — family, friends and law enforcement authorities believe accidentally — with a device whose appearance belied its deadliness — a pen gun.

Slender, silver and lightweight, this pen-like pistol packed a .25-caliber bullet Zorn believed to be jammed, rendering the weapon inoperable, according to friends and family interviewed for this story. But it worked on the third click when a drunken Zorn, celebrating his impending record deal, held it to the right side of his head and fired.

"I had never heard of them before," Zorn's mother, Lisa McCoy-Horn, said of pen guns just three days after she buried her first-born child. "Nobody I knew had, that's the thing."

Neither had Lemoyne Alexander, the veteran record producer working with Zorn and Koch Records to mass-produce Zorn's first CD, Raw Meat.

Nor had Atlanta-based hip hop artist Miracle, "the King of Crunk," a friend and mentor to Zorn over the last four years.

And they weren't high on the radar screen of the Champaign County sheriff's deputies who arrived at Zorn's home that night, where Zorn lay on the floor of a small barn he had converted into his living quarters and sound studio.

Asked what he knew about pen guns, Sheriff David Deskins replied, "That they exist and we don't like them because they're easily concealed."

The guns are legal in Ohio, but Deskins would like to see them outlawed.

"I guess my real concern is, Why would a person want to possess it?" Deskins said. "And when you peel that onion back, are they possessing it for their own safety or for some other reason in their mind?"

Pen guns are easily found on the Web for a few to a few hundred dollars. If that's too rich for you, some sites include instructions to build the single-shot weapons at home.

'I miss him to death'

All who knew Zorn are bewildered by his death, and they're angry, too — at the makers and sellers of pen guns, and, to some extent, at Steven Zorn himself.

"Steven had a career and his dreams all ahead of him," McCoy-Horn said, fighting back tears. "But messing with these pen guns, these kids need to know that life can be taken in a blink of an eye."

Steven Zorn stood 5-feet-11, weighed 138 pounds, and was finicky about his close-cropped dark brown hair. He wore a goatee, yet looked barely old enough to drive.

Family and friends tell a story of an exceedingly bright but moody youth who had a flash temper and hard-headed nature about him.

In recent years, Zorn, who would tell friends, " 'Can't' is not in my dictionary," complained of chest pains. Those close to him chalked it up to Zorn's punishing intensity, his drive to succeed in the music world.

Though raised mostly in New Carlisle and St. Paris, Zorn spent his formative years in North Carolina, where he befriended a man who rescued pit bulls. Next to music, the dogs became his passion, earning him the moniker, "Mr. Pit." He kept two males, Big Block and Hummerat his home in St. Paris.

"He had a way with these dogs," said Zorn's stepfather, Lee Horn. "He was kind of like a dog whisperer."

Zorn loved the Cincinnati Bengals, NASCAR and the University of North Carolina men's basketball team. He often wore the Tarheels' colors, sky blue and white.

He also loved hip hop, and his talent soon showed. In time, he wrote his own songs — songs about life, filled with raw emotion, pain and anger — and he taught himself to play the keyboard and record tracts using inexpensive software on his home computer.

"He could make a song out of anything ... passing a deer, passing a car," friend Shane Hanes, who was with Zorn the night he died, said.

While living in the South, Zorn tracked down rap artist Miracle in Georgia and urged the crunk artist (think adrenaline-rushing, hyperactive rap) to listen to a CD of his original recordings.

"He was very persistent, but, you know, I try to listen to everybody," Miracle said from Atlanta last week. "I listened to his CD and I thought it was real nice. The lyrical content was awesome. He had a lot of skill. I took a liking to him, took him under my wing."

The two, both raised in the country, became fast friends, talking nearly every day. After Zorn moved back to Ohio, they would travel back and forth visiting each other. When Miracle visited St. Paris he'd bunk with Zorn's family in the brick ranch home along Woodville Pike nestled near a farm laden with oxen, sheep and exotic farm animals. They recorded songs together in Zorn's studio.

"He was really, really dedicated to doing this," Miracle said. "A lot of other people say they want to do this, but after a month or so they drop it. Whatever I'd tell him to do he'd do it that way, he'd take it to heart, and I'd say, 'Just be yourself and do it naturally.' "

"He would drive from Ohio to Augusta (Ga.) just to drive a CD up to a deejay. And we're talking a 12-, 13-hour drive. He was just that into it."

In no time Zorn changed from the inquisitive sort to "just knowing it," Miracle said.

"Pit was real hip hop," he said. "He was a multi-artist, he could do it all. If you wanted crunk, he could do crunk ... He had the whole package."

Make no mistake, Zorn was no saint, his mother said. He was prone to tirades, goofing up and quarreling with parents, just like any kid, she said.

But Zorn put his mother and family above himself, and he had big dreams for when (not if) he made it in the music world, Miracle said.

"He used to say. 'I want to buy my mom a house to thank her for all her support, and I'm going to take care of the rest of my family and I'll stay right here (in St. Paris).'"

And during a rough patch in the 27-year-old Miracle's career two years ago, Zorn was there to inspire and get his friend back on track.

"I owe him a great gratitude for that," Miracle said.

"I miss him to death, man."

'Don't you leave your momma'

In the summer of 2004, Zorn attended a conference in Chicago where aspiring musical talents could learn about the business and test their mettle in front of producers in the industry.

Lemoyne Alexander holds two to four of these conferences each year, screening hundreds of artists at each conference. The veteran record producer has worked with the likes of Aaliyah, Twista, Will Smith and Layzie Bone, as well as record labels such as Motown, Rap-A-Lot and Jive Records, he said.

"(Zorn) came to my table and my head was down and I heard his voice and it overpowered me," Alexander recalled over the phone last week. "His voice was remarkable. I looked up and I saw this little scrawny kid and I said, 'We need to talk.'"

Alexander was struck by the texture of Zorn's low voice, the lyrical content and flow of his songs.

"This dude had a big voice," Alexander said, comparing Zorn to Eminem and Pitbull. "I got with him and said, 'Let's make this happen. We're going to make you a star."

Back home, Zorn and his mother formed their own record label, Straight Game Records, and kept working with Miracle and Alexander.

Zorn had nowhere to go but up, or so it seemed.

About a week before he died, a friend gave Zorn a pen gun and told him where he could get more if he or anyone else wanted. The pen was jammed, though.

Zorn grew up a hunter, and he understood guns. But not this one, his family says.

On Friday evening, Nov. 18, Zorn celebrated his impending record deal at home with friends Shane Hanes and Cody Cornette, two seniors from nearby Graham High School.

After Hanes and Cornette left the house sometime after 11 p.m., McCoy-Horn confronted her son.

"He was stumbling around and I got on him, I said, 'Steven, you know I don't like your drinking, why don't you just go out to your room and go to bed.' I didn't know these boys were coming back."

Hanes and Cornette arrived and followed Zorn into his room in the barn.

"He walked up to his computer and pulled the pen gun out of his pocket and started playing with it," Hanes recalled. "I looked at him and said, 'Steve, you shouldn't be playing with that, that's a loaded gun."

Zorn didn't listen. He held the gun to the right side of his head and clicked three times. With the third click, the gun fired. Zorn slumped to the floor, landing in a seated position, his back to his couch.

Cornette ran for Zorn's mother, who found Hanes shaking, screaming and crying, "My best friend, my best friend!"

"I had to get Shane out of the way, and we got him down from the sitting position he was in, and I just kept telling him, 'Don't you leave your momma, don't you leave your momma!

"He had tried to come up and he come up about three or four inches, raising his head, and then he went back down on the blanket that Cody had under his head. And that was the last movement from him."

With all the possibilities ahead for Zorn, the shooting had to be an accident, a foolish mistake, his family said.

"He knew better than that," stepdad Lee Horn said. "He was just being stupid."

Zorn was flown by helicopter to Miami Valley Hospital in Dayton, where he was declared brain-dead but kept alive long enough donate his organs. His heart, though, could not be taken. McCoy-Horn said she was told her son's heart showed damage from stress and previous infarctions.

Zorn, wearing his North Carolina colors, was buried Nov. 26 in St. Paris after a funeral service attended by several hundred, including Lemoyne Alexander. (Miracle was stuck at a previous engagement.)

Alexander said he still plans to release Zorn's CD, as well as others from the hundreds of tracks Zorn left behind. Video tributes and other promotions will be in the mix, and a memorial concert featuring Miracle is planned for the near future in this area.

Meanwhile, McCoy-Horn is planning a tour of her own. She wants to share the story of her son and the dangers of pen guns to parents, school children and lawmakers alike, anyone who will listen.

"I want to take these guns off the street and off the market," she said, her voice growing angry. "A mother shouldn't have to bury their kids," she said. "It's supposed to be the opposite way around."

Contact Anthony Gottschlich (agottschlich@DaytonDailyNews.com) at (937) 225-7408.


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More about Steven Zorn

You can listen to a song by Steven Zorn, or read a review of his unreleased album. See photos of Zorn, his friends and family. Send your condolences to the family by signing the guest book. Read Steven Zorn's obituary as it appeared in the Dayton Daily News.

Steven Zorn and his friends created a Web site, www.MrPit.net, where viewers can learn about the late rapper, his music and a planned online store for clothing and other merchandise. Proceeds from sales will help Zorn's mother spread the word on pen guns and gun tragedies.

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Janitor
December 5, 2005, 09:34 AM
This now dead idiot put a gun to his temple and pulled the trigger, and this live idiot sheriff is saying it's the guns fault?

What if the dead idiot had decided to drive off a cliff to test his air bag (no less stupid)? Would the sheriff want to outlaw cliffs, or would it be cars that were at fault?

Meanwhile, McCoy-Horn is planning a tour of her own. She wants to share the story of her son and the dangers of pen guns to parents, school children and lawmakers alike, anyone who will listen.
And another Cindy S is born. :rolleyes:

Why don't they blame the rap? It would make just as much sense. I know it's hard to accept that your son may have been really, really stupid, but maybe it's time they started to think about it.
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teCh0010
December 5, 2005, 09:40 AM
Aren't pen guns AOW's? If he did not transfer it properly and get the tax stamp wouldn't the transaction be illegal?

The other thing is HE KNEW IT WAS A GUN! They seem to be making a big deal that this is a disguised gun, but it's not like the guy thought it was a pen. He knew it was a gun. He could have done this with a single shot shotgun if he thought the proper way to clear a misfire was to place the weapon to his head and keep pulling the trigger.

spartacus2002
December 5, 2005, 09:40 AM
Darwin at work.

3 gun
December 5, 2005, 09:48 AM
My email to the reporter;

"Instead of using money to spend the word about pen guns and gun tragedies maybe his mother should spread the word about being drunk and stupid. He put a gun to his head and pulled the trigger. Guess his belief that the gun wasn't dangerous was wrong. Tragedy? Nope natural selection. Stupid and drunk hurts."

Sorry to hear about the loss of life but what can you expect when you put a gun to your head and pull the trigger? And of course it's the guns fault that he's dead. Of course. Guess stupid runs in the family. He never had a chance.

WillBrayJr
December 5, 2005, 10:12 AM
It's not the gun's fault the kid had less brains then a woodpecker on an aluminum telephone pole. Stupidity will get you every time. Whether anyone wan'ts to hear this or not, it's simple. If you don't know what end the bullet comes out of then you don't need a gun. It's that simple!

Henry Bowman
December 5, 2005, 10:21 AM
when a drunken Zorn, celebrating his impending record deal, held it to the right side of his head and fired.I didn't realize that this was a traditional way to celebrate record deals. Explains a lot of what passes as music these days.


Actually, come to think of it, Terry Kath, the lead guitarist/singer for my all time favorite band Chicago, did some thing similar at his own party (which also involved alcohol). Guess it is a tradition. :uhoh:

Hkmp5sd
December 5, 2005, 10:24 AM
Aren't pen guns AOW's? If he did not transfer it properly and get the tax stamp wouldn't the transaction be illegal?

Not all of them are AOW. Some that only fire when folded into a "gun" shape are considered generic handguns.

Dave Dembinski
December 5, 2005, 10:31 AM
I hate to speak ill of the dead, but damn. That kid was dumber than a paper bag full of wet nails.

Pilgrim
December 5, 2005, 11:54 AM
I guess Zorn is in that part of hell where he can compare notes with that movie actor who punched a hole in his head with a .44 Magnum blank.

Pilgrim

LAR-15
December 5, 2005, 12:02 PM
Blame the guns, not your poor smart sweetie pie

:rolleyes:

HD
December 5, 2005, 12:11 PM
just another dead fool... hope he didn't breed...

HankB
December 5, 2005, 01:10 PM
Would it be in poor taste to suggest we start up a collection to supply booze, a pengun, and one round of ammo to all rappers? :evil:

DRZinn
December 5, 2005, 01:29 PM
And when you peel that onion back, are they possessing it for their own safety or for some other reason in their mind?And when we peel the onion back, Sheriff, are you advocating taking our weapons from us for our safety or for some other reason in mind?

eagle45
December 5, 2005, 04:33 PM
Zorn grew up a hunter, and he understood guns. But not this one, his family says. Pull trigger, hear boom. What exactly is so different here that would escape his understanding?

With all the possibilities ahead for Zorn, the shooting had to be an accident, a foolish mistake, his family said. Let's see, it says he held the gun to his head and clicked it three times, and on the third click in fired. This is a accident?

He knew better than that," stepdad Lee Horn said. "He was just being stupid. This sounds like an honest statement.

John G
December 5, 2005, 04:59 PM
Grief and logic do not mix.

Igloodude
December 5, 2005, 05:28 PM
Grief and logic do not mix.

+1. I don't particularly fault the mother for trying to overlook how idiotic a move her son made (though it sounds like her husband has a clearer perspective). However, I do fault everyone that jumps on the bandwagon she's hauling around town.

Phyphor
December 5, 2005, 05:31 PM
...3rd time is the charm :evil:

RS2
December 5, 2005, 05:58 PM
Oh. I thought you said PENGUIN.

Never mind.

MechAg94
December 5, 2005, 06:05 PM
Playing Russian Roulette with a single shot weapon is not recommended.

MechAg94
December 5, 2005, 06:06 PM
Yeah, what to penguin's have to do with this? :D

MechAg94
December 5, 2005, 06:10 PM
On pen guns, where are pen guns legal? They must not be in Texas. I have heard of them, but never seen one for sale down here.

Twycross
December 5, 2005, 06:11 PM
Oh well. Another Darwin award.

Grief and logic do not mix.
+1.

bumm
December 5, 2005, 06:12 PM
Thank you SO MUCH for posting this! I have a .25 caliber pen gun myself, and NOW I know better than to shoot myself in the head with it!
(I wonder what would happen if I put it in my MOUTH?) :D
Marty

Carl N. Brown
December 5, 2005, 06:12 PM
The Penguin Pengun is a flare launcher.

The real culprit in this is the evil Demon Rum that goes
in your mouth to steal your brains and wreck evil and
ruin in its path. Down With Rum By Gum!

GregGry
December 5, 2005, 06:22 PM
Lets see here.. Alcohol, stupid people, and firearms.. Thats a combination thats sure to have a negative outcome. He tried firing the pen gun 2 times, with a round obviously in it. The 3rd time it went off. That is not an accident, its stupidity. Its sad that he died, but its his own fault. Its not the guns fault in anyway, hell, the cheap POS pen gun gave him 2 chances to get smart. Thats 2 more chances then you would probably get with a sig, hk, or glock.

newfalguy101
December 5, 2005, 06:42 PM
My condolences to his family, but c'mon he KNEW it was loaded and put it to his OWN head and pulled the trigger THREE times :banghead:

newfalguy101
December 5, 2005, 06:44 PM
Come to think of it even though I dont see penguns as being anything more than a novelty, I better pick up one or two BEFORE they are outlawed.


Man my "to buy" list just keeps getting longer :neener: :evil:

rustymaggot
December 5, 2005, 06:53 PM
Would it be in poor taste to suggest we start up a collection to supply booze, a pengun, and one round of ammo to all rappers? :evil:


i swear the first time i read that i thought it said "penguin". yay drunk penguins! http://www.gdargaud.net/Antarctica/Draws/PenguinBeerglass.gif

71Commander
December 5, 2005, 07:00 PM
"I miss him to death, man."

That about sums it up.

Kurush
December 5, 2005, 07:04 PM
I for one fully support outlawing penguins, nobody has a legitimate need for a bird with fingerprint-resistant feathers and a pointy beak.

Janitor
December 5, 2005, 07:22 PM
I for one fully support outlawing penguins
They scare me ... *shudder*
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dasmi
December 5, 2005, 07:38 PM
"I guess my real concern is, Why would a person want to possess it?" Deskins said. "And when you peel that onion back, are they possessing it for their own safety or for some other reason in their mind?"
Said Sheriff David Deskins, Fearless Leader of the Thought Police.

pmcbooks
December 5, 2005, 07:46 PM
Thank you SO MUCH for posting this! I have a .25 caliber pen gun myself, and NOW I know better than to shoot myself in the head with it!

No. Now you know that if you get drunk, you must be careful not to try to shoot yourself in the head MORE THAN TWO TIMES IN A ROW.

This case points out the need for safety legislation that firearms can only be considered safe if they malfunction AT LEAST FIVE TIMES before firing, to ensure that drunks will be become bored before natural selection results.

Hkmp5sd
December 5, 2005, 07:46 PM
This is the non-NFA pengun made by Stinger. To fire, it must be folded, at which time the trigger pops out. ATF says it looks close enough to a handgun at that point.

http://pengun.com/NewImages/pistol&folded.jpg

Lupinus
December 5, 2005, 07:58 PM
:banghead:

People that blame guns for the stupidity of people will forever tick me off :cuss:

Sorry to talk about a dead guy like this but at least thats one fish out of the gene pool.

Janitor
December 5, 2005, 08:44 PM
No. Now you know that if you get drunk, you must be careful not to try to shoot yourself in the head MORE THAN TWO TIMES IN A ROW.

This case points out the need for safety legislation that firearms can only be considered safe if they malfunction AT LEAST FIVE TIMES before firing, to ensure that drunks will be become bored before natural selection results.
:rotfl:

My just wife came over and stuck her head into the office to find out what I was guffawing about.
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jazurell
December 5, 2005, 09:02 PM
***, the sheriff has his priorities all backwards. He should be seeking to outlaw putting a gun to your head and pulling the trigger...it would have the same result as his idea....:banghead:

Double Naught Spy
December 5, 2005, 10:31 PM
Kid shoots himself with pen gun. Now sheriff wants to see them outlawed.

I want them outlawed as well. They are a genuine threat to society and there really are a lot more of them out there than you realize. First, we outlaw new ones. Then we keep all those already here, but regulate them to death.

I swear, kids will be the downfall of this country if we don't put a stop to them now!!!!! :evil:



I have two and they are killing me, so it would be legitmate self defense, right?

Oh, wait, sorry. I just read it through. I thought the sheriff wanted to outlaw kids. I was right there with him, but now I see he is some sort of less smart person who wants to slap another hinderance on our right. To heck with him then!

Standing Wolf
December 5, 2005, 10:40 PM
It's always the gun's fault, never the criminal's or dummy's.

gezzer
December 5, 2005, 10:50 PM
Isn't a pen gun protected by the first and second adm.?

Too Many Choices!?
December 5, 2005, 10:56 PM
Maybe he was trying to get a,"leg up", on the industry? After all Tupac and Biggie were shot, 50 cent was shot multiple times, Bushwick Bill was shot in the eye. Hmmm, I am really starting to think this guy was trying to ensure his,"rise to stardom",by shooting himself to get a better rep:confused:.

Darwin award number38384949784939378955784938738958484948+1 :p

teCh0010
December 5, 2005, 11:03 PM
I think we should blame the band Saliva. This has obviously been caused by their song "Click, Click, Boom".

f4t9r
December 5, 2005, 11:21 PM
This is very sad
I pray for the family

Tharg
December 6, 2005, 05:37 AM
I think we should blame the band Saliva. This has obviously been caused by their song "Click, Click, Boom".

OMG .. yer killin me... er... trying? by erm... use of forceful laughter... ya! BAN IT NOW!

heh

Ya, not sure what is up... drunk or not (and i'm talking STEAMINGLY drunk...) I just can't imagine putting a gun to meh head w/ a loaded round and going - "oh ... it can't POSSIBLY go off... no problem!"

My dad is that kind of stupid... I've seen him pick up the P22 he "confiscated" from me and do the same routine... altho apparently NOT w/ a bullet that's just trying to do its function ... in the chamber... every time i'm like - DUDE... would you STOP that sh... er... stuff! He don't get it... which really bugs me considering all the safety stuff i know about guns... yea... came from him... i guess before he lost his fool mind...

ye haw... why is it so hard to realize that its a GUN stupid....its designed to launch some kind of projectile out ONE end at a HIGH rate of speed... therefor i don't care if yer uncles brothers mother clicked it two hundred fourty times... don't point it at yerself and go... hey.. i'm safe. DUMB(*^ :banghead:

J/Tharg!

Igloodude
December 6, 2005, 06:49 AM
Isn't a pen gun protected by the first and second adm.?

Well, they do say that the pen is mightier than the sword...

:o

ScottsGT
December 6, 2005, 08:38 AM
I thought rappers were supposed to shoot someone else to get to that "Gangsta Rapper" catagorie.

Janitor
December 6, 2005, 08:40 AM
I thought rappers were supposed to shoot someone else to get to that "Gangsta Rapper" catagorie.
Naaa.

It's "shoot someone ... anyone".

That's the reason we keep on reading of innocent bystanders. The whole world is a target. Apparently, self included.
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DunedinDragon
December 6, 2005, 09:35 AM
HMMMMM...Makes me wonder.

If he had survived the gunshot with only major brain damage I bet he STILL could have had a career in rap music!!!

On second thought, the Sheriff himself might be a prime example of what will happen to you if you survive a gunshot to the brain.

MD_Willington
December 6, 2005, 01:50 PM
Could have easilly been a cordless drill with an auger bit...

"He thought the battery was dead"

Some people...:rolleyes:

oweno
December 6, 2005, 02:08 PM
"No man is an island" and all that...

Sadly, at times the penalty for getting drunk is death.

This looks like one of those times.

Old Dog
December 6, 2005, 02:19 PM
I'm really not so sure about anyone who finds humor in this tragic case. A stupid, meaningless death -- but not "hilarious."

I don't blame the mother for saying (so soon after losing her son) that's she's going to make a cause of campaigning against pen-guns ...

Seems natural to me that most parents try to find some way to make their child's otherwise meaningless death mean something ... And no one wants to blame their child, the first instinct is to find something or someone else to blame.

She'll probably come around to understand that only her son is at fault for his own demise... If not, like Cindy Sheehan blaming Bush for her son's death, rather than blaming her son for volunteering during time of war, she'll only be preaching to her own choir and those persons capable of logical reasoning won't support her "movement."

belton-deer-hunter
December 6, 2005, 02:21 PM
Would it be in poor taste to suggest we start up a collection to supply booze, a pengun, and one round of ammo to all rappers? nope not to me i will donate a box of ammo jsut tell me when and where they want to meet:evil: :neener:

Rezin
December 6, 2005, 02:23 PM
"Stupid is, as stupid does....."

-- F. Gump

Turkey Creek
December 6, 2005, 06:40 PM
It's amazing to me that there would be such an in depth and lengthy write up about this village idiot-

Bartholomew Roberts
December 6, 2005, 07:03 PM
Wow, puts a loaded gun to his head and pulls the trigger not just once; but THREE times and this is worthy of the full-emotional tears write up from the local paper?

As to pen guns, if you are going to shoot at me, by all means do it with a single shot small-caliber weapon with no sights that must be folded like an origami swan before it can be used.

stevelyn
December 6, 2005, 09:34 PM
Sorry. I can't feel any sympathy for the deceased idiot or the parental units that passed on their stupid gene on to their off-spring.

Darwin Rules!

Atticus
December 6, 2005, 09:50 PM
Bic go click double time den go boom ....word.

Johnny_Yuma
December 6, 2005, 11:20 PM
account of an accidental shooting that I've read where I didn't feel sorry for anyone involved.

Victim: Rap "artist." Calls himself "Pit." Owns a pen gun. Drinks. Shoots self.

Mother: Raised an idiot for a son. Wants to infringe on 2nd amendment rights because her dead son was stupid.

Sherrif: Typical politico JBT.

sm
December 6, 2005, 11:32 PM
I understand there is a natural order to things. I understand part of which is Darwin-isms.

Okay, folks want to blame inanimate object for wrongs.

Outlawing, Banning seems to be the "media buzz words".

What if we Outlawed Idiots? There goes most of our elected folks...

<scratches chin>

That'd better than Tyranny - right?

Just cutting to the chase is all....;)

HankB
December 7, 2005, 08:51 AM
I thought rappers were supposed to shoot someone else to get to that "Gangsta Rapper" catagorie.Well sure . . . that was next on his "To Do" list, but maybe he wanted to get some practice in first. :rolleyes:

gunsmith
December 7, 2005, 10:08 AM
I went to 2 casinos and came home with 100$, This whole "get drunk & shoot yourself in the head to celebrate" is totally new.

I am so glad I gave up drinking because I was celebrating something.

Sometimes a Sherrif will shoot drunk people too, lets ban Sherrifs!

Sportcat
December 7, 2005, 10:40 AM
Too bad "Miracle" couldn't live up to his name.:neener:

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