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Detritus
December 6, 2005, 03:14 AM
ok to be direct adn to the point, just how big of a difference does the RRA two-stage match trigger group make over the standard GI style group??
ie if a new shooter assembling an otherwise match grade gun for use in Service Rifle divsion, were to for a short time use lower equipped with a standard trigger would he be unnecessarily hindering himself?
as to why i am asking this, well i know that i WILL be buying a lower for my wife within the next month or so, it will be used as the basis for the A1 clone she wants, so no need to add a match grade unit to that, in fact she wants the gun "as close to 1972 GI as possible". i want to start shooting Service rifle as soon as i can and frankly would like to know if it's a bad idea to just by the CMP style upper and subvert "Her" lower to my uses while i save the additional $250-300 for the match grade lower.
as always in such things, thank you for any and all info/advice you can provide.
Sheldon
December 6, 2005, 04:11 AM
I think the match trigger is pretty much all they do to the lowers. The uppers get most of the work for competition guns. The two stage lets you take up most of the weight of the trigger pull in its first stage and then you only need about a 1 lb of pressure on the second stage to let the shot off....depending on how you set it up. Some guys like them and some stick to the single stage triggers. You have great shooters using both systems.
Swampy
December 6, 2005, 09:14 AM
Detritus,
The difference between the standard AR trigger and the Rock River two stage is like the difference between night and day, Jimi Hendrix and Tony Bennet, Rosie O'Donnell and Charlize Theron, Filet Mignon and Kwik-E-Mart hot dogs, a Yugo and a Rolls Royce.....
Get the picture??? :)
Have you ever tried a well tuned M1 or M14 trigger??? The Rock River AR trigger feels JUST like that...... a smooth take up to a stop, then a crisp break at around 4-1/2 to 5 lbs (4-1/2 minimum by NRA rules).
Shooting an AR in competition with the standard trigger is a BIG hindrance to good trigger control. Don't hesitate, get the RRA trigger and don't look back.
Best regards,
Swampy
garands forever
Steve Smith
December 6, 2005, 09:26 AM
From a competitor's point of view, the standard AR trigger is not even a real trigger...it is more like trying to split wood underwater. Highpower is a game of precision, not strength, so get a good trigger. Nothing else needs to be done to the lower.
MNgoldenbear
December 7, 2005, 01:45 AM
+1
I'm not a great shooter by any measure (just squeaked into expert scores), but until I put a good trigger on my AR, I was able to shoot better scores with my DCM Garand consistently. (The Garand wasn't tuned, but came with a really decent trigger for such a gun.)
P-32
December 7, 2005, 09:07 PM
A good trigger is everything. A standard trigger could run pretty high in weight. Off hand scores would suffer the most. Get the RRA 2 stage and have it tuned by John at White Oak Precision. $35.00 with $5.00 used for shipping back to you.
MarshallDodge
December 7, 2005, 09:18 PM
A good trigger is everything. A standard trigger could run pretty high in weight. Off hand scores would suffer the most. Get the RRA 2 stage and have it tuned by John at White Oak Precision. $35.00 with $5.00 used for shipping back to you.
+1
I have a two stage trigger on my AR and it makes a huge difference. The RR I shot was very nice.
Paradiddle
December 8, 2005, 02:43 PM
Detritus,
Jimi Hendrix and Tony Bennet,
While they are different styles they are both world class. Your analogy is bad. :cool:
Your trigger advice is spot on though.
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