[CentralTexas]

Not yet, but since NICS is such a minor inconvenience why don't we have one for employment as a way to weed out illegals?
After recently realizing it's dead easy to get fake documents & the reasons we don't go after the employers (oh you know), wouldn't this be a great way to make everyone happy?
Takes the pressure off employers, stops illegal hiring, sets up a new Govt agency and when the Democrats say it's an unfair burden we throw it back in their faces that if it's ok for buying a gun.....
CT

[Preacherman]

Trouble is, the NICS check would turn up any criminal record you may have. Say you got a misdemeanor conviction in your teens for possession of marijuana. This didn't carry over into your adult life, you've been clean since 17, etc., etc. - but the guy you're competing with for the job, while less qualified and experienced than you, doesn't have any convictions on his record. Guess who's just lost the job?

[Henry Bowman]

I think he means a "NICS-like" check. That is call up to see if they are on the "OK to hire" list. The significant difference, and problem, is that NICS is a "no go" list. If you aren't on it, you're OK. This would have to be an approved list, since illegals (or "undocumented workers") are by definintion not on a list.

[CentralTexas]

Based on your say, Social Security number. Not in the system? Delayed...

[Langenator]

It wouldn't be that hard to do. Just check the SSN/taxpayer ID # with the SSA and the IRS...SSA can tell you if the number is fake (ie, has never existed), belongs to someone who is dead, or doesn't match the name. IRS can figure out if something else might be fishy about it, like, say, Mr Illegal who stole it and is trying to get a job in TX, and the IRS realizes that the SSN belongs to someone who lives in NY, where that person works, etc.

Oh, and let the SSA and IRS share their data on suspicious SSNs with ICE. I've heard that IRS has huge amounts of info on bogus SSNs, SSNs which are paying taxes, but they're not allowed to share that data with ICE.

[Alex45ACP]

I'd prefer that didn't happen.

I'd like to see NICS completely abolished.

We should be working on making the government smaller.

[Oleg Volk]

Why would we want to give yet another power to the government. We KNOW they will misuse it, as they do in every country where govt. has a bigger role in employment than in the US. An employer can already choose to do a background check if they wish, why make it mandatory?

[CentralTexas]

so as to stop employers from hiring illegals.
CT

[NCP24]

Not yet, but since NICS is such a minor inconvenience why don't we have one for employment as a way to weed out illegals?
After recently realizing it's dead easy to get fake documents & the reasons we don't go after the employers (oh you know), wouldn't this be a great way to make everyone happy?
Takes the pressure off employers, stops illegal hiring, sets up a new Govt agency and when the Democrats say it's an unfair burden we throw it back in their faces that if it's ok for buying a gun.....
CTIt would be more accurate than local criminal history checks. A good number of employers don’t realize local checks are just so incomplete and misleading. The service should be made available to employers who wish to utilize it for hiring purposes.

[kahr40]

I'd rather have the illegals than give the FED more power to abuse.

[woerm]

K40 and others

gov't needs to get smaller, not more intrusive.

amen

r

[Henry Bowman]

gov't needs to get smaller, not more intrusive.Yes, but I would accept bigger and more intrusive at our borders.

[O.F.Fascist]

I'd rather have the illegals than give the FED more power to abuse.

I concur.

[Standing Wolf]

I'd rather have the illegals than give the FED more power to abuse.

I'd say that's the devil versus the deep blue sea. Ultimately, it's probably a moot point, because the federal government simply isn't going to do anything about the nation's borders and the millions upon millions of illegal aliens that infest our country like cockroaches.

[patentmike]

It's illegal to hire 'em now, so why make another law to not enforce?

[Langenator]

It's illegal, but they really don't give employers any way to check whether the documents they're being shown are genuine. Fake/stolen SSNs aren't hard to come by, and once you've got that, things like a driver's license isn't hard either.

[Coltdriver]

Its already in place.

Any employer can log into the Social Security website today and affirm that the ssn number being offered is the one that belongs to the person in front of them.

The truth is, too many business interests are making a killing employing illegals and they pass along a lot of that money to your elected representatives.

If you can out bribe the business people, you can prevail.

Otherwise you have to understand that it is the politicians that want the money and they will take anything including destroying your country, to get the money.

[txgho1911]

There are many people in TX who are experiencing pulled job offers and other denials in housing and contract work.
Some circles of people take a form of pretrial diversion called defered adjudication probation for allmost every possible criminal code offence. The lawyers may not realise the whole full impact of accepting this in lue of going to trial to fight charges with little evidence or a rushed case on a twenty something kid with his head spinning.
When employers find a record of this probation they consider it a conviction. By statute this is saposed to be considered a non conviction. Until this year most cases of people who have had difered adjucation probation where considered convictions by DPS in relation to CHL.
Some folks consider these cases a kind of Criminal Justice Industry instead of a real public service court system. There seems to be a few groups working for reforms on these issues. You learn a whole lot when family gets cought in such a vacum.

[Waitone]

Very simple database with internet or touchtone phone entry. Punch in ssn. If that number was previously thumped a no-go goes back to employer and they are required to confiscate the SS card.

The way to stop the nonsense is the combine minimal checking with for-sure-and-for-certain nasty penalties for employing illegal border crossers. Remove the economic advantage the the problem will go away toute d'suite

[Coltdriver]

On the deferred adjudication can't you, upon successful completion of the program, petition the court to seal the record?? Thats the way it works in Colorado.