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KP95DAO
April 4, 2003, 09:43 PM
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=15&art_id=vn20030404054750131C599522&set_id=1




Cop killings spark call to leave guns at work

April 04 2003 at 05:47AM



By Baldwin Ndaba and Solly Maphumulo

Gauteng Safety and Liaison MEC Nomvula Mokonyane has reiterated her call to officers to leave their guns at work, after yet another police officer was murdered for his weapon.

Inspector Ozias Mthethwa, 54, of Etwatwa, Daveyton, was killed while waiting for a police vehicle to pick him up for work. He suffered a single gunshot wound to his head.

He had apparently been accosted by four men, one of whom pulled out a gun and fired at him, before they disappeared with his service pistol.

'Police are vulnerable'
His family were not at home at the time of the attack. According to relatives, his wife Ellen Mthethwa was in Bushbuckridge preparing for a family ritual scheduled for later this month.

Neighbours had to contact his immediate relatives, who then contacted Mthethwa's wife.

Relatives found Mthethwa's body in a pool of blood on the road outside his home after the robbers fled on foot through mielie fields near his house.

Mokonyane and East Rand acting area commissioner Leah Mofomme condemned the attack.

"This should not be happening - it is an attack on our democracy," Mofomme said.

Mokonyane added: "The best solution to stop the killing of police officers is for police to keep their guns in the safe at work, so that the guns do not end up in the wrong hands.

"Police are vulnerable, and they become victims of the criminals because they want guns."

The MEC added: "These gun-crazy elements need to be brought to book."

No arrests had been made in connection with the murder.

Apart from his widow, Mthethwa is survived by five children.

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Hkmp5sd
April 4, 2003, 09:48 PM
Guess it never occured to these idiots that the LEOs can still be ambushed while ON duty and armed just as easily as off duty and armed.

Based on their logic, the only way to protect their officers is to completely disarm them.

cool45auto
April 4, 2003, 10:45 PM
Jeez.:rolleyes:

D.W. Drang
April 5, 2003, 11:58 AM
Didn't follow the link, so... where is this?

I assumed Illinois...:evil:

pittspilot
April 5, 2003, 01:49 PM
Guateng is a province in South Africa, the murder capital of the world.

T.Stahl
April 5, 2003, 01:55 PM
Mokonyane added: "The best solution to stop the killing of police officers is for police to keep their guns in the safe at work, so that the guns do not end up in the wrong hands.

No. They'll be killed for nothing, without being able to defend themselves. :(

Jaco
August 4, 2003, 04:42 AM
All is just part of governments ideal state where you would not defend yourself against any armed attack, and the policy of disarming civilians is a clear indication of that.

gunsmith
August 4, 2003, 05:07 AM
Miss Universe Oksana Fyodorova reported
that as a police officer she was required to leave
her gun at work before going home.
If politicians did that here maybe more cops would support
CCW reciprocity...
I bet the English cops that are allowed to carry guns also
have to leave them at work...
interesting subject

4v50 Gary
August 4, 2003, 03:34 PM
Most cops I know of in England who carry receive their sidearm from the armourer at the start of their shift and return them at the end. Hong Kong does the same thing (unless the Commies changed it). Here in America cops carry their sidearms home or are permitted to carry personal off-duty weapons. It's different everywhere you go.

HBK
August 4, 2003, 04:02 PM
Ridiculous.

MicroBalrog
August 4, 2003, 04:42 PM
The only place more insane than England.

I thought that was going to be about Israel.

Standing Wolf
August 4, 2003, 07:08 PM
"Police are vulnerable, and they become victims of the criminals because they want guns."

Why don't they try to reason with criminals? Heck, if all else fails, maybe they could even pass a new law against criminals!

rrader
August 4, 2003, 07:13 PM
The rationale for allowing police officers to carry their duty weapon home is that it increases the police presence in the community 24/7, same as allowing them to drive their squad car home. Forcing them to leave their weapons at work is perverse.

clange
August 5, 2003, 11:53 AM
Heck, if all else fails, maybe they could even pass a new law against criminals!
Come on now, thats crazy talk.

Kharn
August 5, 2003, 12:29 PM
Inspector Ozias Mthethwa, 54, of Etwatwa, Daveyton, was killed while waiting for a police vehicle to pick him up for work.
Instead of making the cops lock up their guns at the station, why not require the po-po taxi to be prompt and require the officers wait inside their homes until the vehicle is stopped at their door step?

Kharn

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